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#23826
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paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Looking for another suggestion, guys. If you were to play the role of an angry literalist and think of an insulting Shepard quote to point at Bioware over the ending debacle, which one would it be? Can be from anywhere in the series. Something like the one from ME1 where he tells Saren "Instead, you surrendered! You quit!"

Can anyone think of something more appropriate than that?


Perhaps one of the renegade quotes from the TIM confrontation...


Or how about Conrad's. "I thought you were a hero"...

"I wish I've never met you." + whining


Damn, those sound good, but I dont have Conrad in my playthrough...

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HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Looking for another suggestion, guys. If you were to play the role of an angry literalist and think of an insulting Shepard quote to point at Bioware over the ending debacle, which one would it be? Can be from anywhere in the series. Something like the one from ME1 where he tells Saren "Instead, you surrendered! You quit!"

Can anyone think of something more appropriate than that?


Perhaps one of the renegade quotes from the TIM confrontation...


Or how about Conrad's. "I thought you were a hero"...

"I wish I've never met you." + whining


Damn, those sound good, but I dont have Conrad in my playthrough...

These two are from ME1.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 06:13 .


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HellishFiend wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

"You can still redeem yourself if you got the guts."


PERFECT

for EC


Hmm, I like it. Needs something to go before it, though.... I'm also thinking a renegade response to TIM is probably fitting, but I cant think of one off the top of my head...


There is this one...



or...



or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=240s

or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=250s

or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=284s

or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=295s

or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=304s

or...

all of these spliced together! Posted Image

#23829
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LOL! Nice! I might do that. Thanks for the suggestions. =)
"You're weak...and you're selfish.." hahaha so harsh. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 21 juin 2012 - 06:17 .


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D.Sharrah wrote...


Oh, s**t. Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image I've never seen that one!!!!! TIM uses almost the exact wording that Sovereign used just before being shot!!!!!!! Either because he is so consumed by the power he has or he is controlled by the Reapers.

And Sheen's VO is simply brilliant.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 06:23 .


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D.Sharrah wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

"You can still redeem yourself if you got the guts."


PERFECT

for EC


Hmm, I like it. Needs something to go before it, though.... I'm also thinking a renegade response to TIM is probably fitting, but I cant think of one off the top of my head...


There is this one...



or...



or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=240s

or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=250s

or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=284s

or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=295s

or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=304s

or...

all of these spliced together! Posted Image


If anyone has the time and ability...please splice these responses together...might even be fun to mess with the order a little bit! Posted Image

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How about getting back to topic guys ?
Remember that the white flash screen was thought to be a dream transition ?
I'm not so sure anymore, I've just seen a video where someone was firing a Reaper Blackstar, and before the explosion happened, there was also this white "dream transition" screen.

A link?


The video is about a glitch that lets Shepard hover like an angel over the ground, but I guess the animation for the weapon is the same as always.

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paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...


Oh, s**t. Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image I've never seen that one!!!!! TIM uses almost the exact wording that Sovereign used just before being shot!!!!!!! Either because he is so consumed by the power he has or he is controlled by the Reapers.

And Sheen's VO is simply brilliant.



I have only seen the youtube of it...haven't been renegade enough yet to see it in my own playthrough.

Modifié par D.Sharrah, 21 juin 2012 - 06:28 .


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paxxton wrote...

Looking for another suggestion, guys. If you were to play the role of an angry literalist and think of an insulting Shepard quote to point at Bioware over the ending debacle, which one would it be? Can be from anywhere in the series. Something like the one from ME1 where he tells Saren "Instead, you surrendered! You quit!"

Can anyone think of something more appropriate than that?



Earth is under siege, and you're hatching a scheme to control the Reapers?

You've been spending too much time with the enemy, they're dragging you over to their side, their way of thinking

You've forgotten everything you've stood for! Cerberus was supposed to be humanity's sword, not a dagger in our back!

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D.Sharrah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...


Oh, s**t. Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image I've never seen that one!!!!! TIM uses almost the exact wording that Sovereign used just before being shot!!!!!!! Either because he is so consumed by the power he has or he is controlled by the Reapers.

And Sheen's VO is simply brilliant.



I have only see youtube of it...haven't been renegade enough yet to see it in my own playthrough.

I almost fell off the chair when I saw it. I'm still planning on doing the Renegade playthrough of ME2 and ME3. I'm doing subquests in ME1 right now but since the EC is not yet out I'm lazy about it.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 06:32 .


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Bill Casey wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Looking for another suggestion, guys. If you were to play the role of an angry literalist and think of an insulting Shepard quote to point at Bioware over the ending debacle, which one would it be? Can be from anywhere in the series. Something like the one from ME1 where he tells Saren "Instead, you surrendered! You quit!"

Can anyone think of something more appropriate than that?



Earth is under siege, and you're hatching a scheme to control the Reapers?

You've been spending too much time with the enemy, they're dragging you over to their side, their way of thinking

You've forgotten everything you've stood for! Cerberus was supposed to be humanity's sword, not a dagger in our back!


I think that the last one would be ok w/o the second half...otherwise you would have to change "Cerberus" to "Bioware" and "humanity's" to "gamer's"...

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@Bill Casey: I didn't write that. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 06:34 .


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Sup people! I missed anything?

Just been out and got myself a speedflying wing, so I'll be busy hurling myself down mountains next week :lol:

D.Sharrah wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

I just found something interesting.
Remember the chimes at the end?
I just found a use of them in the game - it plays when you take the VS back onto the normandy after they've been injured.

Can't work out why it plays though, it seems out of place for the scene.

Video link for this:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8itl5a


Here is the post for those that missed it. 


Any way someone can post this in a different way?  I haven't listened to it yet b/c of all the steps I would have to do download that file...and I am lazy...hides in the shame corner...underneath the shame box...


I'll stick it up unlisted on youtube ;)

#23839
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paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...


Oh, s**t. Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image I've never seen that one!!!!! TIM uses almost the exact wording that Sovereign used just before being shot!!!!!!! Either because he is so consumed by the power he has or he is controlled by the Reapers.

And Sheen's VO is simply brilliant.



I have only see youtube of it...haven't been renegade enough yet to see it in my own playthrough.

I almost fell off the chair when I saw it. I'm still planning on doing the Renegade playthrough of ME2 and ME3. I'm doing subquests in ME1 right now but since the EC is not yet out I'm lazy about it.


My problem is that I start a renegade playthrough and it ends up being renegon or worst paragade...I really am a "goody two shoes"...Posted Image

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TSA_383 wrote...

Sup people! I missed anything?

Just been out and got myself a speedflying wing, so I'll be busy hurling myself down mountains next week :lol:

D.Sharrah wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

I just found something interesting.
Remember the chimes at the end?
I just found a use of them in the game - it plays when you take the VS back onto the normandy after they've been injured.

Can't work out why it plays though, it seems out of place for the scene.

Video link for this:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8itl5a


Here is the post for those that missed it. 


Any way someone can post this in a different way?  I haven't listened to it yet b/c of all the steps I would have to do download that file...and I am lazy...hides in the shame corner...underneath the shame box...


I'll stick it up unlisted on youtube ;)


That would be awesome!  I can do youtube!

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http://social.biowar.../index/12678073

Do I give people too much credit? I kind of assumed that people who recognised the change of tone and figured the ending was dreamlike understood what was going on...

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I'll be back in awhile...gonna go play with the kids in the back yard...don't run away with the pages while I'm gone - I want to be able to catch-up!

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Maybe you're right, maybe we can't win this. But we'll fight you regardless, just like we did Sovereign, just like I'm doing now. However insignificant we might be, we will fight, we will sacrifice, and we will find a way.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

I'll be back in awhile...gonna go play with the kids in the back yard...don't run away with the pages while I'm gone - I want to be able to catch-up!




^The strange chimes from the ending play at 0:52

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D.Sharrah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...


Oh, s**t. Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image I've never seen that one!!!!! TIM uses almost the exact wording that Sovereign used just before being shot!!!!!!! Either because he is so consumed by the power he has or he is controlled by the Reapers.

And Sheen's VO is simply brilliant.



I have only see youtube of it...haven't been renegade enough yet to see it in my own playthrough.

I almost fell off the chair when I saw it. I'm still planning on doing the Renegade playthrough of ME2 and ME3. I'm doing subquests in ME1 right now but since the EC is not yet out I'm lazy about it.


My problem is that I start a renegade playthrough and it ends up being renegon or worst paragade...I really am a "goody two shoes"...Posted Image

I know what you mean. Half a year ago I tried to do a "don't care" ME2 playthrough. It turned out to be a "very careful" playthrough that I ultimately imported to ME3. Posted Image I'm looking forward with horror to a complete Renegade playthrough but it has to be done. Posted Image Anyway, this is going to be fun. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 06:45 .


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paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...


Oh, s**t. Posted ImagePosted ImagePosted ImagePosted Image I've never seen that one!!!!! TIM uses almost the exact wording that Sovereign used just before being shot!!!!!!! Either because he is so consumed by the power he has or he is controlled by the Reapers.

And Sheen's VO is simply brilliant.



I have only see youtube of it...haven't been renegade enough yet to see it in my own playthrough.

I almost fell off the chair when I saw it. I'm still planning on doing the Renegade playthrough of ME2 and ME3. I'm doing subquests in ME1 right now but since the EC is not yet out I'm lazy about it.


My problem is that I start a renegade playthrough and it ends up being renegon or worst paragade...I really am a "goody two shoes"...Posted Image

I know what you mean. Half a year ago I tried to do a "don't care" ME2 playthrough. It turned out to be a "very careful" playthrough that I ultimately imported to ME3. Posted Image I'm looking forward with horror to a complete Renegade playthrough but it has to be done. Posted Image Anyway, this is going to be fun. Posted Image


Just be ready for 30+ hours of kicking puppies once you get to ME3. ;)  I read a comment on YouTube that described a complete Renegade playthrough in ME3 as that.  Based on what I've seen, I agree with that.

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I thought this was a glitch on my Xbox, but looking at this means that it wasn't. When you talk to the Reaper on Rannoch, your screen zooms in and out constantly while the reaper speaks to you...why? Makes no sense to have it.




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Dwailing wrote...

Just be ready for 30+ hours of kicking puppies once you get to ME3. ;)  I read a comment on YouTube that described a complete Renegade playthrough in ME3 as that.  Based on what I've seen, I agree with that.


Well, I play as paragon but I feel that a renegade interrupt is appropriate at times. I also still think the renegade interupt on mirandas loyalty mission was kick ass. ;)

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 21 juin 2012 - 06:53 .


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TSA_383 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

I'll be back in awhile...gonna go play with the kids in the back yard...don't run away with the pages while I'm gone - I want to be able to catch-up!




^The strange chimes from the ending play at 0:52

I think the pitch is lower. And are slightly different.


Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 06:59 .


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TJBartlemus wrote...

I thought this was a glitch on my Xbox, but looking at this means that it wasn't. When you talk to the Reaper on Rannoch, your screen zooms in and out constantly while the reaper speaks to you...why? Makes no sense to have it.





This is camera shaking caused by the low-frequency voice of the Reaper (maybe even with some infrasonic extras Posted Image).

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 07:03 .