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[paxxton]

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

paxxton wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Oh, s**t.  I've never seen that one!!!!! TIM uses almost the exact wording that Sovereign used just before being shot!!!!!!! Either because he is so consumed by the power he has or he is controlled by the Reapers.

And Sheen's VO is simply brilliant.

I have only see youtube of it...haven't been renegade enough yet to see it in my own playthrough.

I almost fell off the chair when I saw it. I'm still planning on doing the Renegade playthrough of ME2 and ME3. I'm doing subquests in ME1 right now but since the EC is not yet out I'm lazy about it.

My problem is that I start a renegade playthrough and it ends up being renegon or worst paragade...I really am a "goody two shoes"...

I know what you mean. Half a year ago I tried to do a "don't care" ME2 playthrough. It turned out to be a "very careful" playthrough that I ultimately imported to ME3.  I'm looking forward with horror to a complete Renegade playthrough but it has to be done.  Anyway, this is going to be fun.

Just be ready for 30+ hours of kicking puppies once you get to ME3.   I read a comment on YouTube that described a complete Renegade playthrough in ME3 as that.  Based on what I've seen, I agree with that.

Well, it'll be something new after all.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 07:06 .

[TSA_383]

paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

I thought this was a glitch on my Xbox, but looking at this means that it wasn't. When you talk to the Reaper on Rannoch, your screen zooms in and out constantly while the reaper speaks to you...why? Makes no sense to have it.

This is camera shaking caused by the low-frequency voice of the Reaper (maybe even with some infrasonic extras ).

^Possible. Analysis coming soon.

[Arian Dynas]

Boo.

Heya folks, not back for long, barely getting this chance right now, since my brother happens to own two computers, and yet both of them are borked up.

If someone could give me the reader's digest of what I have been missing, that'd be great.

[Memnon]

TSA_383 wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12678073

Do I give people too much credit? I kind of assumed that people who recognised the change of tone and figured the ending was dreamlike understood what was going on...

In all fairness, even with everything you guys have presented it is still tough for some (though I can only speak for myself) to believe that all of this was planned from the beginning. It just feels like it was rushed and sloppy, that's what my gut tells me. I've said before that I initially thought the end was a dream sequence, then (with TIM and Anderson) thought it was indoctrination, then with Starkid just thought WTF. I would love nothing more than for IT to be a reality, or at the very least have EC begin with you waking up ... but I guess I'm a cynic, and think it's more likely that we'll be disappointed

[masster blaster]

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]Dwailing wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]D.Sharrah wrote...

[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]D.Sharrah wrote...



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I have only see youtube of it...haven't been renegade enough yet to see it in my own playthrough.[/quote]
I almost fell off the chair when I saw it. I'm still planning on doing the Renegade playthrough of ME2 and ME3. I'm doing subquests in ME1 right now but since the EC is not yet out I'm lazy about it.[/quote]

My problem is that I start a renegade playthrough and it ends up being renegon or worst paragade...I really am a "goody two shoes"...
[/quote]
I know what you mean. Half a year ago I tried to do a "don't care" ME2 playthrough. It turned out to be a "very careful" playthrough that I ultimately imported to ME3.  I'm looking forward with horror to a complete Renegade playthrough but it has to be done.  Anyway, this is going to be fun. [/quote]

Just be ready for 30+ hours of kicking puppies once you get to ME3.   I read a comment on YouTube that described a complete Renegade playthrough in ME3 as that.  Based on what I've seen, I agree with that.

[/quote]
Well, it'll be something new after all. [/quote]

Ya you would think they would be both diffrent, but in the end weather your Shepard is Paragon, or renegade the end is still the same.

Modifié par masster blaster, 21 juin 2012 - 07:18 .

[masster blaster]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Boo.

Heya folks, not back for long, barely getting this chance right now, since my brother happens to own two computers, and yet both of them are borked up.

If someone could give me the reader's digest of what I have been missing, that'd be great.

Why don't you us your phone to get on the forum, if they are both broken, and not much but I will let Paxxton, or anybody else explain.

[Big Bad]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Boo.

Heya folks, not back for long, barely getting this chance right now, since my brother happens to own two computers, and yet both of them are borked up.

If someone could give me the reader's digest of what I have been missing, that'd be great.

Arian!! We missed you!

As for what's going on, things have been fairly slow the past couple of days. Lots of discussions regarding infrasonic noise and the thematic elements of the series. I am sure there is more, but nothing huge is coming to mind. Where you here when Hellishfiend released his video?

Modifié par Big Bad, 21 juin 2012 - 07:40 .

[TSA_383]

TSA_383 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

I thought this was a glitch on my Xbox, but looking at this means that it wasn't. When you talk to the Reaper on Rannoch, your screen zooms in and out constantly while the reaper speaks to you...why? Makes no sense to have it.

This is camera shaking caused by the low-frequency voice of the Reaper (maybe even with some infrasonic extras ).

^Possible. Analysis coming soon.

To update: Nothing terribly interesting, there is infrasound but it's so quiet that it's probably the result of a loose LPF or something. The biggest peak isn't the reaper talking - when it powers up it makes a 23Hz tone that's very loud.

[D.Sharrah]

TSA_383 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

I'll be back in awhile...gonna go play with the kids in the back yard...don't run away with the pages while I'm gone - I want to be able to catch-up!

^The strange chimes from the ending play at 0:52

Thanks...that helps with the chimes.  But I was hoping too be able to hear the pitch shifted infrasound that you out on sendspace...and its not that I don't like, but that I don't have any of the stuff downloaded and I am to lasy to do that...

[MaximizedAction]

TSA_383 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

I thought this was a glitch on my Xbox, but looking at this means that it wasn't. When you talk to the Reaper on Rannoch, your screen zooms in and out constantly while the reaper speaks to you...why? Makes no sense to have it.

This is camera shaking caused by the low-frequency voice of the Reaper (maybe even with some infrasonic extras ).

^Possible. Analysis coming soon.

To update: Nothing terribly interesting, there is infrasound but it's so quiet that it's probably the result of a loose LPF or something. The biggest peak isn't the reaper talking - when it powers up it makes a 23Hz tone that's very loud.

Thx for checking!

[TSA_383]

D.Sharrah wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

I'll be back in awhile...gonna go play with the kids in the back yard...don't run away with the pages while I'm gone - I want to be able to catch-up!

^The strange chimes from the ending play at 0:52

Thanks...that helps with the chimes.  But I was hoping too be able to hear the pitch shifted infrasound that you out on sendspace...and its not that I don't like, but that I don't have any of the stuff downloaded and I am to lasy to do that...

It does take literally a whole 8 seconds to download

Also, how's this for interesting?
This is the sound that plays over the entire normandy:


Importantly, this has proper infrasound that's not an artefact of analysis.
I have isolated it and shall upload shortly.

[nightcobra]

TSA_383 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

I'll be back in awhile...gonna go play with the kids in the back yard...don't run away with the pages while I'm gone - I want to be able to catch-up!

^The strange chimes from the ending play at 0:52

Thanks...that helps with the chimes.  But I was hoping too be able to hear the pitch shifted infrasound that you out on sendspace...and its not that I don't like, but that I don't have any of the stuff downloaded and I am to lasy to do that...

It does take literally a whole 8 seconds to download

Also, how's this for interesting?
This is the sound that plays over the entire normandy:


Importantly, this has proper infrasound that's not an artefact of analysis.
I have isolated it and shall upload shortly.

huh=], so vega really did hear a hum.  

now i'd just like to know if there are any infra sounds when shepard finds the kid in the vent.

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 21 juin 2012 - 08:03 .

[MaximizedAction]

TSA_383 wrote...

Also, how's this for interesting?
This is the sound that plays over the entire normandy:


Importantly, this has proper infrasound that's not an artefact of analysis.
I have isolated it and shall upload shortly.

Just out of curiosity: what was the soundfile's name? Is it the one in Wwise_norhub_streaming?

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 21 juin 2012 - 08:03 .

[paxxton]

TSA_383 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

I'll be back in awhile...gonna go play with the kids in the back yard...don't run away with the pages while I'm gone - I want to be able to catch-up!

^The strange chimes from the ending play at 0:52

Thanks...that helps with the chimes.  But I was hoping too be able to hear the pitch shifted infrasound that you out on sendspace...and its not that I don't like, but that I don't have any of the stuff downloaded and I am to lasy to do that...

It does take literally a whole 8 seconds to download

Also, how's this for interesting?
This is the sound that plays over the entire normandy:


Importantly, this has proper infrasound that's not an artefact of analysis.
I have isolated it and shall upload shortly.

This graph is similar to the ones I got after analysing the sounds from Shepard's cabin in ME2.

Pre-IFF:



Post-IFF:

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 08:04 .

[TSA_383]

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Also, how's this for interesting?
This is the sound that plays over the entire normandy:


Importantly, this has proper infrasound that's not an artefact of analysis.
I have isolated it and shall upload shortly.

Just out of curiosity: what was the soundfile's name? Is it the one in Wwise_norhub_streaming?

Yup
"biosnd_nor.wwise_norhub_streaming.amb_nor_entireship"

[TSA_383]

paxxton wrote...

This graph is similar to the ones I got after analysing the sounds from Shepard's cabin in ME2.

Pre-IFF:



Post-IFF:

So it's most likely not very relevant? 

[masster blaster]

You all have been a great grope of people that I have all come to respect and chat with but from what I am hearing from the leakier who was right about the MP dlc , about the EC. I just don't know if IT is true and if the threats against the BIoware staff and EA increase I don't think they will do anything for EC because the a lot of fans are just being aholes about the ending and are not seeing the big picture.

[nightcobra]

TSA_383 wrote...

So it's most likely not very relevant? 

hmmm going on curiosity alone...any infrasounds on the normandy SR-1 from ME1 to compare?

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 21 juin 2012 - 08:11 .

[paxxton]

masster blaster wrote...

You all have been a great grope of people that I have all come to respect and chat with but from what I am hearing from the leakier who was right about the MP dlc , about the EC. I just don't know if IT is true and if the threats against the BIoware staff and EA increase I don't think they will do anything for EC because the a lot of fans are just being aholes about the ending and are not seeing the big picture.

The important thing is that the EC doesn't really have to prove or disprove IT (though it'd be nice if IT was proved). The thing I hope for is that either BioWare have already implemented it (and the EC will disclose it) or that BioWare is considering implementing it in the future after the tremendous support from this and other threads (+ the poll on HTL) and will disclose it in ME4.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 08:16 .

[MaximizedAction]

masster blaster wrote...

You all have been a great grope of people that I have all come to respect and chat with but from what I am hearing from the leakier who was right about the MP dlc , about the EC. I just don't know if IT is true and if the threats against the BIoware staff and EA increase I don't think they will do anything for EC because the a lot of fans are just being aholes about the ending and are not seeing the big picture.

Have you been spending too much time outside of this thread?

I never do that, too counter productive. This thread is a save haven for the mind and intellect. Here, people are trying to explain things without being sarcastic or cynical.

[olshi]

TSA_383 wrote...
It does take literally a whole 8 seconds to download

Also, how's this for interesting?
This is the sound that plays over the entire normandy:


Importantly, this has proper infrasound that's not an artefact of analysis.
I have isolated it and shall upload shortly.

To clarify this once more: When we look at some random soundfiles from other games, we wouldn't find infrasonic frequencies there, right? I'm not an expert on that matter, and I'd like to be 100% sure that this had to be deliberately put there by Bioware.

[paxxton]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

So it's most likely not very relevant? 

hmmm going on curiosity alone...any infrasounds on the normandy SR-1 from ME1 to compare?

Doubtful. It was an Alliance vessel.

[D.Sharrah]

[quote]Arian Dynas wrote...

Boo.

Heya folks, not back for long, barely getting this chance right now, since my brother happens to own two computers, and yet both of them are borked up.

If someone could give me the reader's digest of what I have been missing, that'd be great.[/quote]

Here is an example of one of the discussions that has been going on...

[quote]D.Sharrah wrote...

@ Hellish - This is what I was talking about in my last post. For everyone else, please feel free to make corrections/additions where neccessary...



Edi’s Evolution (A subplot to Mass Effect 3)

1. Relevant Themes
   1.1. Synthetics v Organics
     1.1.1. The revelation that EDI is the Luna VI

   1.2. Sacrifice
     1.2.1. EDI’s decision to “risk non-functionality for the sake of the crew”

   1.3. Power of Diversity
     1.3.1. EDI’s comments on how she differs from the Geth
     1.3.2. EDI’s desire to be different than the Reapers

2. Relevant Choices
   2.1. Control
     2.1.1. EDI’s choice to control Eva’s body rather than destroying it

   2.2. Destroy
     2.2.1. EDI’s comments on how the Reaper’s sole purpose to “reproduce” is incomprehensible

   2.3. Synthesis
     2.3.1. EDI’s “construction” – that includes a human VI that evolved into an AI + Reaper Tech
     2.3.2. EDI’s inclusion of human thought processes and “emotions” (from her conversations with Shepard)

Edit: And this is just one of the sub plots... [quote/]

[Memnon]

paxxton wrote...

The important thing is that the EC doesn't really have to prove or disprove IT (though it'd be nice if IT was proved). The thing I hope for is that either BioWare have already implemented it (and the EC will disclose it) or that BioWare is considering implementing it in the future after the tremendous support from this and other threads (+ the poll on HTL) and will disclose it in ME4.

How would the second part work, though? If the EC is - as they claim - simply cutscenes and more dialogue, how would IT be implemented in the future? A full retcon? Not that I oppose that, but it doesn't seem econimical to pay the VAs to come back and then erase all of that work via retcon with future DLC

[D.Sharrah]

TSA_383 wrote...

Snip..

I did say I was lazy.