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paxxton wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

So it's most likely not very relevant? :lol:


hmmm going on curiosity alone...any infrasounds on the normandy SR-1 from ME1 to compare?



Doubtful. It was an Alliance vessel.


doubts pale in comparison to raw data though:happy:

it would be interesting if the SR-2 had this hum since its construction.

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olshi wrote...

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It does take literally a whole 8 seconds to download ;)

Also, how's this for interesting?
This is the sound that plays over the entire normandy:
Posted Image

Importantly, this has proper infrasound that's not an artefact of analysis.
I have isolated it and shall upload shortly.


To clarify this once more: When we look at some random soundfiles from other games, we wouldn't find infrasonic frequencies there, right? I'm not an expert on that matter, and I'd like to be 100% sure that this had to be deliberately put there by Bioware.


...sort of. :lol:

Any sound engineer worth their salt will filter subsonic out of the final mix because it contributes nothing and only serves to stress the equipment or reduce the volume of audible frequencies in compressed sound.

In fact, you'll see that for most of the game's audio it's been filtered. Not here, however :whistle:

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paxxton wrote...

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You all have been a great grope of people that I have all come to respect and chat with but from what I am hearing from the leakier who was right about the MP dlc , about the EC. I just don't know if IT is true and if the threats against the BIoware staff and EA increase I don't think they will do anything for EC because the a lot of fans are just being aholes about the ending and are not seeing the big picture.

The important thing is that the EC doesn't really have to prove or disprove IT (though it'd be nice if IT was proved). The thing I hope for is that either BioWare have already implemented it (and the EC will disclose it) or that BioWare is considering implementing it in the future after the tremendous support from this and other threads (+ the poll on HTL) and will disclose it in ME4.


But that's just it I don't want an ME4! IF there is no change about what the hell happened after the Normandy leaving the battle like cowards I just can't play it if it continues there or even years and years after the events of the battle for earth. THey left strait up and left Shepard to die, just like what Bioware did they just said " Oh look what we did to the ending I guess they need time to say goodbye to ME. NO they don't want to say good bye to ME, and if it was all EA, or Bioware that wanted to leave it open as it can be so there can be and ME4 then NO!

Plus they said THIS IS THE FINAL ADVANTUER FOR SHEPARD! that mean no Normandy no Shepard, no nothing, and if they do it without shepard they better include the CHOICE that Shepard pick at the end of ME3.

I am just to worried about them messing up MAss effect into just an action game, and not a story line game like it was in the beggening.

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Stornskar wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The important thing is that the EC doesn't really have to prove or disprove IT (though it'd be nice if IT was proved). The thing I hope for is that either BioWare have already implemented it (and the EC will disclose it) or that BioWare is considering implementing it in the future after the tremendous support from this and other threads (+ the poll on HTL) and will disclose it in ME4.


How would the second part work, though? If the EC is - as they claim - simply cutscenes and more dialogue, how would IT be implemented in the future? A full retcon? Not that I oppose that, but it doesn't seem econimical to pay the VAs to come back and then erase all of that work via retcon with future DLC


It is a widespread missconception that EC is only dialougue and cutscenes. Bioware has not ruled out gameplay.

Also EC has been in development for 3 months by the entire single player team, not just the DLC team. For comparision Lair of the Shadow Broker took 2,5 months to develop by the DLC team. EC is going to be big.

Edit: Kissconception....how did I make a typo like that...:pinched:

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 21 juin 2012 - 08:43 .


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Stornskar wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The important thing is that the EC doesn't really have to prove or disprove IT (though it'd be nice if IT was proved). The thing I hope for is that either BioWare have already implemented it (and the EC will disclose it) or that BioWare is considering implementing it in the future after the tremendous support from this and other threads (+ the poll on HTL) and will disclose it in ME4.


How would the second part work, though? If the EC is - as they claim - simply cutscenes and more dialogue, how would IT be implemented in the future? A full retcon? Not that I oppose that, but it doesn't seem econimical to pay the VAs to come back and then erase all of that work via retcon with future DLC


at this point i'd really doubt if it's just cinematics since lair of the shadow broker took a couple months of development if i'm not mistaken.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

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You all have been a great grope of people that I have all come to respect and chat with but from what I am hearing from the leakier who was right about the MP dlc , about the EC. I just don't know if IT is true and if the threats against the BIoware staff and EA increase I don't think they will do anything for EC because the a lot of fans are just being aholes about the ending and are not seeing the big picture.


Have you been spending too much time outside of this thread? :lol:

I never do that, too counter productive. This thread is a save haven for the mind and intellect. Here, people are trying to explain things without being sarcastic or cynical.

But that's just it. I have and been learning the truth about what's going on outside IT.



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D.Sharrah wrote...

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Snip..



I did say I was lazy. Posted Image


Also, youtube's audio setup filters infrasound: 
That video originally had no audible sounds <_<

edit:
Here's the original: http://www.sendspace.com/file/a1l00f

Modifié par TSA_383, 21 juin 2012 - 08:30 .


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TSA_383 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Snip..



I did say I was lazy. Posted Image


Also, youtube's audio setup filters infrasound: 
That video originally had no audible sounds <_<

edit:
Here's the original: http://www.sendspace.com/file/a1l00f


Whoah, I can hear the diaphragm from my headphones oscillate. Truly, frequencies below 20Hz.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 21 juin 2012 - 08:32 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Snip..



I did say I was lazy. Posted Image


Also, youtube's audio setup filters infrasound: 
That video originally had no audible sounds <_<

edit:
Here's the original: http://www.sendspace.com/file/a1l00f


Whoah, I can hear the diaphragm from my headphones oscillate. Truly, frequencies below 20Hz.

Not on the youtube video you're not ;) If you downloaded it then yeah, totally :lol:

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Stornskar wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The important thing is that the EC doesn't really have to prove or disprove IT (though it'd be nice if IT was proved). The thing I hope for is that either BioWare have already implemented it (and the EC will disclose it) or that BioWare is considering implementing it in the future after the tremendous support from this and other threads (+ the poll on HTL) and will disclose it in ME4.


How would the second part work, though? If the EC is - as they claim - simply cutscenes and more dialogue, how would IT be implemented in the future? A full retcon? Not that I oppose that, but it doesn't seem econimical to pay the VAs to come back and then erase all of that work via retcon with future DLC

You have to remember that the EC announcement was made at the beginning of April 2012. If IT wasn't really BioWare's original plan, they were in denial that people would have calmed down and tried to protect their artistic integrity by preserving the current ending and offering merely clarification and closure in the EC. If this was the case, the EC probably won't reveal IT.

On the other hand, after 3 months of constant uproar and IT being further developed BioWare might have come to their senses and decided to give IT a try (hence the HTL poll to discretely learn people's opinions). In this case the EC also won't reveal It because BioWare wouldn't have enough time to pull it all off. On even other hand, they could be postponing the EC further to gain time to implement IT. Or they could move it to ME4.

Or even another hand, BioWare is just teasing the players, planned for IT and is going to reveal it in the EC.

I think the second option with ME4 has the best potential for developing the story of Shepard and the Reapers.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 08:38 .


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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Stornskar wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The important thing is that the EC doesn't really have to prove or disprove IT (though it'd be nice if IT was proved). The thing I hope for is that either BioWare have already implemented it (and the EC will disclose it) or that BioWare is considering implementing it in the future after the tremendous support from this and other threads (+ the poll on HTL) and will disclose it in ME4.


How would the second part work, though? If the EC is - as they claim - simply cutscenes and more dialogue, how would IT be implemented in the future? A full retcon? Not that I oppose that, but it doesn't seem econimical to pay the VAs to come back and then erase all of that work via retcon with future DLC


It is a widespread kissconception that EC is only dialougue and cutscenes. Bioware has not ruled out gameplay.

Also EC has been in development for 3 months by the entire single player team, not just the DLC team. For comparision Lair of the Shadow Broker took 2,5 months to develop by the DLC team. EC is going to be big.


Best typo ever! LMAO! Posted Image

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And Paxxton I don't want another ME because I am afraid they will just treat it like a Call of Duty game, or Halo game that has been making way to many games about the Story line of the games even though they are just doing it to get more money. But they are not paying attention to what they have been doing to the story line of both their games.

Halo had a story but got of when halo odst came in and reach came in/halo wars. None of that matter to the story only reach even though I wish the kept it like the halo combat evolve style not graphics but game play because it defeated the purpose about all the tech the from halo1- improved only to increase in halo reach.

I just think that all game company's are just forgetting about the story line in games and just making them just for action instead of bringing the story and action together as one.

That is why I am glad it's Christopher Nolan's last Batman movie because he does not want to make more Batman movies because he does not want to butch the Batman movies he has brought to life only to screw up the story line of Batman down the Road. That is why I wish Bioware can do what he is doing because I don't want them to do more mass Effect down the road because they will butcher the Story line down the road like they did with DA II, because they introduced a new character way to early and it had nothing to do with the story line from DA:O

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paxxton wrote...

Stornskar wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The important thing is that the EC doesn't really have to prove or disprove IT (though it'd be nice if IT was proved). The thing I hope for is that either BioWare have already implemented it (and the EC will disclose it) or that BioWare is considering implementing it in the future after the tremendous support from this and other threads (+ the poll on HTL) and will disclose it in ME4.


How would the second part work, though? If the EC is - as they claim - simply cutscenes and more dialogue, how would IT be implemented in the future? A full retcon? Not that I oppose that, but it doesn't seem econimical to pay the VAs to come back and then erase all of that work via retcon with future DLC

You have to remember that the EC announcement was made at the beginning of April 2012. If IT wasn't really BioWare's original plan, they were in denial that people would have calmed down and tried to protect their artistic integrity by preserving the current ending and offering merely clarification and closure in the EC. If this was the case, the EC probably won't reveal IT.

On the other hand, after 3 months of constant uproar and IT being further developed BioWare might have come to their senses and decided to give IT a try (hence the HTL poll to discretely learn people's opinions). In this case the EC also won't reveal It because BioWare wouldn't have enough time to pull it all off. On even other hand, they could be postponing the EC further to gain time to implement IT. Or they could move it to ME4.

Or even another hand, BioWare is just teasing the players, planned for IT and is going to reveal it in the EC.

I think the second option with ME4 has the best potential for developing the story of Shepard and the Reapers.


But Paxxton the HTL is getting pushed down by Bioware because of that threat that was sent by someone in the HTl groupe.  That's why i am worried because the trolls that like to ruin everything are tying to stop Bioware form continuing IT or the EC dlc because they want a NEW ENDING not a continuation.

Modifié par masster blaster, 21 juin 2012 - 08:42 .


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D.Sharrah wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

It is a widespread kissconception that EC is only dialougue and cutscenes. Bioware has not ruled out gameplay.

Also EC has been in development for 3 months by the entire single player team, not just the DLC team. For comparision Lair of the Shadow Broker took 2,5 months to develop by the DLC team. EC is going to be big.


Best typo ever! LMAO! Posted Image


How did I do that....:pinched:

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masster blaster wrote...

And Paxxton I don't want another ME because I am afraid they will just treat it like a Call of Duty game, or Halo game that has been making way to many games about the Story line of the games even though they are just doing it to get more money. But they are not paying attention to what they have been doing to the story line of both their games.

Halo had a story but got of when halo odst came in and reach came in/halo wars. None of that matter to the story only reach even though I wish the kept it like the halo combat evolve style not graphics but game play because it defeated the purpose about all the tech the from halo1- improved only to increase in halo reach.

I just think that all game company's are just forgetting about the story line in games and just making them just for action instead of bringing the story and action together as one.

That is why I am glad it's Christopher Nolan's last Batman movie because he does not want to make more Batman movies because he does not want to butch the Batman movies he has brought to life only to screw up the story line of Batman down the Road. That is why I wish Bioware can do what he is doing because I don't want them to do more mass Effect down the road because they will butcher the Story line down the road like they did with DA II, because they introduced a new character way to early and it had nothing to do with the story line from DA:O

I also don't want Mass Effect to become a pure FPS. But I don't mind spin-ofs that are shooters as long as the core series continues its convergent approach.

I didn't say that with ME4 the current ending would be left without any explanation. I did say BioWare might be moving IT to ME4 because the theory is so big that it can provide for multiple hours of gameplay (even a whole new game). In the worst possible case for many, the curent ending is literal and Mass Effect 4 is disconnected from the current trilogy. Bbut I can  live with that too. Posted Image

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What's going on, people?

Did anyone respond to my post asking if the Starchild was a test to make sure the person who activates the Crucible has noble intentions?

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TSA_383 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Snip..



I did say I was lazy. Posted Image


Also, youtube's audio setup filters infrasound: 
That video originally had no audible sounds <_<

edit:
Here's the original: http://www.sendspace.com/file/a1l00f


Whoah, I can hear the diaphragm from my headphones oscillate. Truly, frequencies below 20Hz.

Not on the youtube video you're not ;) If you downloaded it then yeah, totally :lol:


Yep, with your original wmv even more. Can hear the headphone pieces cracking, I found out they do that when fed with low frequencies, thx to that frequency generator you linked a few days ago. ^_^

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paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

And Paxxton I don't want another ME because I am afraid they will just treat it like a Call of Duty game, or Halo game that has been making way to many games about the Story line of the games even though they are just doing it to get more money. But they are not paying attention to what they have been doing to the story line of both their games.

Halo had a story but got of when halo odst came in and reach came in/halo wars. None of that matter to the story only reach even though I wish the kept it like the halo combat evolve style not graphics but game play because it defeated the purpose about all the tech the from halo1- improved only to increase in halo reach.

I just think that all game company's are just forgetting about the story line in games and just making them just for action instead of bringing the story and action together as one.

That is why I am glad it's Christopher Nolan's last Batman movie because he does not want to make more Batman movies because he does not want to butch the Batman movies he has brought to life only to screw up the story line of Batman down the Road. That is why I wish Bioware can do what he is doing because I don't want them to do more mass Effect down the road because they will butcher the Story line down the road like they did with DA II, because they introduced a new character way to early and it had nothing to do with the story line from DA:O

I also don't want Mass Effect to become a pure FPS. But I don't mind spin-ofs that are shooters as long as the core series continues its convergent approach.

I didn't say that with ME4 the current ending would be left without any explanation. I did say BioWare might be moving IT to ME4 because the theory is so big that it can provide for multiple hours of gameplay (even a whole new game). In the worst possible case for many, the curent ending is literal and Mass Effect 4 is disconnected from the current trilogy. Bbut I can  live with that too. Posted Image


Without major fixing, I will never acknowledge a ME4.

That being said, if they end ME3 well, I'd play any other ME game. Any genre, idc, as long as it is good.

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paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

And Paxxton I don't want another ME because I am afraid they will just treat it like a Call of Duty game, or Halo game that has been making way to many games about the Story line of the games even though they are just doing it to get more money. But they are not paying attention to what they have been doing to the story line of both their games.

Halo had a story but got of when halo odst came in and reach came in/halo wars. None of that matter to the story only reach even though I wish the kept it like the halo combat evolve style not graphics but game play because it defeated the purpose about all the tech the from halo1- improved only to increase in halo reach.

I just think that all game company's are just forgetting about the story line in games and just making them just for action instead of bringing the story and action together as one.

That is why I am glad it's Christopher Nolan's last Batman movie because he does not want to make more Batman movies because he does not want to butch the Batman movies he has brought to life only to screw up the story line of Batman down the Road. That is why I wish Bioware can do what he is doing because I don't want them to do more mass Effect down the road because they will butcher the Story line down the road like they did with DA II, because they introduced a new character way to early and it had nothing to do with the story line from DA:O

I also don't want Mass Effect to become a pure FPS. But I don't mind spin-ofs that are shooters as long as the core series continues its convergent approach.

I didn't say that with ME4 the current ending would be left without any explanation. I did say BioWare might be moving IT to ME4 because the theory is so big that it can provide for multiple hours of gameplay (even a whole new game). In the worst possible case for many, the curent ending is literal and Mass Effect 4 is disconnected from the current trilogy. Bbut I can  live with that too. Posted Image


But your not listening they SAID NO MORE SHEPARD as in no SHEPARD IN ME4.

Modifié par masster blaster, 21 juin 2012 - 08:50 .


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masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Stornskar wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The important thing is that the EC doesn't really have to prove or disprove IT (though it'd be nice if IT was proved). The thing I hope for is that either BioWare have already implemented it (and the EC will disclose it) or that BioWare is considering implementing it in the future after the tremendous support from this and other threads (+ the poll on HTL) and will disclose it in ME4.


How would the second part work, though? If the EC is - as they claim - simply cutscenes and more dialogue, how would IT be implemented in the future? A full retcon? Not that I oppose that, but it doesn't seem econimical to pay the VAs to come back and then erase all of that work via retcon with future DLC

You have to remember that the EC announcement was made at the beginning of April 2012. If IT wasn't really BioWare's original plan, they were in denial that people would have calmed down and tried to protect their artistic integrity by preserving the current ending and offering merely clarification and closure in the EC. If this was the case, the EC probably won't reveal IT.

On the other hand, after 3 months of constant uproar and IT being further developed BioWare might have come to their senses and decided to give IT a try (hence the HTL poll to discretely learn people's opinions). In this case the EC also won't reveal It because BioWare wouldn't have enough time to pull it all off. On even other hand, they could be postponing the EC further to gain time to implement IT. Or they could move it to ME4.

Or even another hand, BioWare is just teasing the players, planned for IT and is going to reveal it in the EC.

I think the second option with ME4 has the best potential for developing the story of Shepard and the Reapers.


But Paxxton the HTL is getting pushed down by Bioware because of that threat that was sent by someone in the HTl groupe.  That's why i am worried because the trolls that like to ruin everything are tying to stop Bioware form continuing IT or the EC dlc because they want a NEW ENDING not a continuation.

The poll is still there.
http://www.holdtheli...on-theory.1909/

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D.Sharrah wrote...

2.3. Synthesis
2.3.2. EDI’s inclusion of human thought processes and “emotions” (from her conversations with Shepard)


This enrages me...
It's such complete bull****...

Synthesis asserts organic and synthetics can't learn to get along...
This is not ****ing synthesis; it's the exact ****ing opposite...

I have never been this mad about anything...
I almost never got mad in my life before this...
Synthesis is so ****ing hateful...

Modifié par Bill Casey, 21 juin 2012 - 08:54 .


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paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Stornskar wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The important thing is that the EC doesn't really have to prove or disprove IT (though it'd be nice if IT was proved). The thing I hope for is that either BioWare have already implemented it (and the EC will disclose it) or that BioWare is considering implementing it in the future after the tremendous support from this and other threads (+ the poll on HTL) and will disclose it in ME4.


How would the second part work, though? If the EC is - as they claim - simply cutscenes and more dialogue, how would IT be implemented in the future? A full retcon? Not that I oppose that, but it doesn't seem econimical to pay the VAs to come back and then erase all of that work via retcon with future DLC

You have to remember that the EC announcement was made at the beginning of April 2012. If IT wasn't really BioWare's original plan, they were in denial that people would have calmed down and tried to protect their artistic integrity by preserving the current ending and offering merely clarification and closure in the EC. If this was the case, the EC probably won't reveal IT.

On the other hand, after 3 months of constant uproar and IT being further developed BioWare might have come to their senses and decided to give IT a try (hence the HTL poll to discretely learn people's opinions). In this case the EC also won't reveal It because BioWare wouldn't have enough time to pull it all off. On even other hand, they could be postponing the EC further to gain time to implement IT. Or they could move it to ME4.

Or even another hand, BioWare is just teasing the players, planned for IT and is going to reveal it in the EC.

I think the second option with ME4 has the best potential for developing the story of Shepard and the Reapers.


But Paxxton the HTL is getting pushed down by Bioware because of that threat that was sent by someone in the HTl groupe.  That's why i am worried because the trolls that like to ruin everything are tying to stop Bioware form continuing IT or the EC dlc because they want a NEW ENDING not a continuation.

The poll is still there.
http://www.holdtheli...on-theory.1909/


I ment that they don't care about it after that threat they reseved a souple of days ago.

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But your not listening they SAID NO MORE SHEPARD as in no SHEPARD IN ME4.

They can change plans whenever they like. Posted Image

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paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Stornskar wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The important thing is that the EC doesn't really have to prove or disprove IT (though it'd be nice if IT was proved). The thing I hope for is that either BioWare have already implemented it (and the EC will disclose it) or that BioWare is considering implementing it in the future after the tremendous support from this and other threads (+ the poll on HTL) and will disclose it in ME4.


How would the second part work, though? If the EC is - as they claim - simply cutscenes and more dialogue, how would IT be implemented in the future? A full retcon? Not that I oppose that, but it doesn't seem econimical to pay the VAs to come back and then erase all of that work via retcon with future DLC

You have to remember that the EC announcement was made at the beginning of April 2012. If IT wasn't really BioWare's original plan, they were in denial that people would have calmed down and tried to protect their artistic integrity by preserving the current ending and offering merely clarification and closure in the EC. If this was the case, the EC probably won't reveal IT.

On the other hand, after 3 months of constant uproar and IT being further developed BioWare might have come to their senses and decided to give IT a try (hence the HTL poll to discretely learn people's opinions). In this case the EC also won't reveal It because BioWare wouldn't have enough time to pull it all off. On even other hand, they could be postponing the EC further to gain time to implement IT. Or they could move it to ME4.

Or even another hand, BioWare is just teasing the players, planned for IT and is going to reveal it in the EC.

I think the second option with ME4 has the best potential for developing the story of Shepard and the Reapers.


But Paxxton the HTL is getting pushed down by Bioware because of that threat that was sent by someone in the HTl groupe.  That's why i am worried because the trolls that like to ruin everything are tying to stop Bioware form continuing IT or the EC dlc because they want a NEW ENDING not a continuation.

The poll is still there.
http://www.holdtheli...on-theory.1909/


Do we know if that was really Chris Priestly who made the poll? If so, he has good taste in picture.

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Without major fixing, I will never acknowledge a ME4.

That being said, if they end ME3 well, I'd play any other ME game. Any genre, idc, as long as it is good.

I'm in a better situation because I liked the ending the first time I saw it even though it was really sad and had some weird inconsistencies (like the camera showing Shepard's wound).