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[paxxton]

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

But Paxxton the HTL is getting pushed down by Bioware because of that threat that was sent by someone in the HTl groupe.  That's why i am worried because the trolls that like to ruin everything are tying to stop Bioware form continuing IT or the EC dlc because they want a NEW ENDING not a continuation.

The poll is still there.
http://www.holdtheli...on-theory.1909/

I ment that they don't care about it after that threat they reseved a souple of days ago.

Why do you think so? Did they say so?

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The poll is still there.
http://www.holdtheli...on-theory.1909/

I ment that they don't care about it after that threat they reseved a souple of days ago.

I dont see why BioWare would change their plans due to a threat from some random idiot.

Modifié par byne, 21 juin 2012 - 08:56 .

[FellishBeast]

paxxton wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Without major fixing, I will never acknowledge a ME4.

That being said, if they end ME3 well, I'd play any other ME game. Any genre, idc, as long as it is good.

I'm in a better situation because I liked the ending the first time I saw it even though it was really sad and had some weird inconsistencies (like the camera showing Shepard's wound).

I respect your right to have that opinion and we will not discuss that any further. 

[masster blaster]

Paxxton I sorry it's just I don't know anymore what they are planing. Maybe the are going with IT, or they are just going to add on some cut sense and that's it? I had no Idea that Chris started the web site so I don't know anything anymore.

[HellishFiend]

Bill Casey wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Looking for another suggestion, guys. If you were to play the role of an angry literalist and think of an insulting Shepard quote to point at Bioware over the ending debacle, which one would it be? Can be from anywhere in the series. Something like the one from ME1 where he tells Saren "Instead, you surrendered! You quit!"

Can anyone think of something more appropriate than that?

Earth is under siege, and you're hatching a scheme to control the Reapers?

You've been spending too much time with the enemy, they're dragging you over to their side, their way of thinking

You've forgotten everything you've stood for! Cerberus was supposed to be humanity's sword, not a dagger in our back!

Thanks Bill!

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Without major fixing, I will never acknowledge a ME4.

That being said, if they end ME3 well, I'd play any other ME game. Any genre, idc, as long as it is good.

I'm in a better situation because I liked the ending the first time I saw it even though it was really sad and had some weird inconsistencies (like the camera showing Shepard's wound).

Funny, I too..not liked it, but...accepted it. Yes it was weird, but so are many movies. Then, people started pointing out circular logic, etc. and of course Bioware's 'lies' told pre-release.
Then came shameful dark-ages, or .

But after that the discovery of IT.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 21 juin 2012 - 08:58 .

[masster blaster]

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The poll is still there.
http://www.holdtheli...on-theory.1909/

I ment that they don't care about it after that threat they reseved a souple of days ago.

I dont see why BioWare would change their plans due to a threat from some random idiot.

I'm not just talking about that idiot I mean all the idiots that did it to.

[FellishBeast]

masster blaster wrote...

I had no Idea that Chris started the web site so I don't know anything anymore.

Say what now? 

[paxxton]

masster blaster wrote...

Paxxton I sorry it's just I don't know anymore what they are planing. Maybe the are going with IT, or they are just going to add on some cut sense and that's it? I had no Idea that Chris started the web site so I don't know anything anymore.

That's all right.  BioWare is really cryptic these days with many vague tweets.

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Paxxton I sorry it's just I don't know anymore what they are planing. Maybe the are going with IT, or they are just going to add on some cut sense and that's it? I had no Idea that Chris started the web site so I don't know anything anymore.

That's all right.  BioWare is really cryptic these days with many vague tweets.

Haven't they been ever since the release?

And HTL wasn't created by Chris, but that poll was.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 21 juin 2012 - 09:00 .

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Without major fixing, I will never acknowledge a ME4.

That being said, if they end ME3 well, I'd play any other ME game. Any genre, idc, as long as it is good.

I'm in a better situation because I liked the ending the first time I saw it even though it was really sad and had some weird inconsistencies (like the camera showing Shepard's wound).

Funny, I too..not liked it, but...accepted it. Yes it was weird, but so are many movies. Then, people started pointing out circular logic, etc. and of course Bioware's 'lies' told pre-release.
Then came shameful dark-ages, or .

But after that the discovery of IT.

As I said I LIKED the ending but was suspicious about the dream-like nature of it and jumping wounds. I soon discovered ACAVYOS' video on indoctrination and knew it was big. I watched with my eyes widely open and thought: damn, it all makes sense now like a pieces of puzzle coming together to form a picture!

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 09:06 .

[FellishBeast]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Without major fixing, I will never acknowledge a ME4.

That being said, if they end ME3 well, I'd play any other ME game. Any genre, idc, as long as it is good.

I'm in a better situation because I liked the ending the first time I saw it even though it was really sad and had some weird inconsistencies (like the camera showing Shepard's wound).

Funny, I too..not liked it, but...accepted it. Yes it was weird, but so are many movies. Then, people started pointing out circular logic, etc. and of course Bioware's 'lies' told pre-release.
Then came shameful dark-ages, or .

But after that the discovery of IT.

While the credits were still rolling I was on google searching for answers. I discovered BSN and IT that day. I also entered a 2 week gaming depression.

[byne]

paxxton wrote...

As I said I LIKED the ending but was suspicious about the dream-like nature of it and jumping wounds. I soon discovered ACAVYOS' video on indoctrination and knew it was big. I watched with my eyes widely open and thought: damn, it makes sense!.

No wonder you think the godchild never lies and that control is the best literal choice!

[byne]

FellishBeast wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Without major fixing, I will never acknowledge a ME4.

That being said, if they end ME3 well, I'd play any other ME game. Any genre, idc, as long as it is good.

I'm in a better situation because I liked the ending the first time I saw it even though it was really sad and had some weird inconsistencies (like the camera showing Shepard's wound).

Funny, I too..not liked it, but...accepted it. Yes it was weird, but so are many movies. Then, people started pointing out circular logic, etc. and of course Bioware's 'lies' told pre-release.
Then came shameful dark-ages, or .

But after that the discovery of IT.

While the credits were still rolling I was on google searching for answers. I discovered BSN and IT that day. I also entered a 2 week gaming depression.

You're lucky you had IT to go to to help you feel better. I had to start the thread to make myself feel better, and only slowly started feeling better as the theory got more fleshed out.

[paxxton]

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

As I said I LIKED the ending but was suspicious about the dream-like nature of it and jumping wounds. I soon discovered ACAVYOS' video on indoctrination and knew it was big. I watched with my eyes widely open and thought: damn, it makes sense!.

No wonder you think the godchild never lies and that control is the best literal choice!

Because in the literal ending (that everything happens for real and this is really the end) he does tell the truth. It only makes sense for him to lie in the IT interpretation because IT treats the current ending as a transitory scene that leads to the further development of the story.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 09:17 .

[HellishFiend]

TSA_383 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Snip..

I did say I was lazy.

Also, youtube's audio setup filters infrasound: 
That video originally had no audible sounds <_<

edit:
Here's the original: http://www.sendspace.com/file/a1l00f

Whoah, I can hear the diaphragm from my headphones oscillate. Truly, frequencies below 20Hz.

Not on the youtube video you're not  If you downloaded it then yeah, totally

Jesus. Apparently my system will play infrasonic to a fair extent. I'll see if I can upload a vid of my woofer cones "dancing to the music". 

[MaximizedAction]

FellishBeast wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Without major fixing, I will never acknowledge a ME4.

That being said, if they end ME3 well, I'd play any other ME game. Any genre, idc, as long as it is good.

I'm in a better situation because I liked the ending the first time I saw it even though it was really sad and had some weird inconsistencies (like the camera showing Shepard's wound).

Funny, I too..not liked it, but...accepted it. Yes it was weird, but so are many movies. Then, people started pointing out circular logic, etc. and of course Bioware's 'lies' told pre-release.
Then came shameful dark-ages, or .

But after that the discovery of IT.

While the credits were still rolling I was on google searching for answers. I discovered BSN and IT that day. I also entered a 2 week gaming depression.

Also got into a form of depression, of course not full blown, but...it was there. I'm so happy it was during the semester break, otherwise I would've been to distracted from searching every corner of the intergrid for answers and at least a tiny bit of sense. I'm happy that, among all those gaming sites that gave the game 10/10 without even mentioning the ending and raging there were a few literature experts who shared their thought. After having read two...mind blown. Then came the Acayvos. Blown mind blown.

[HellishFiend]

Bill Casey wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

2.3. Synthesis
2.3.2. EDI’s inclusion of human thought processes and “emotions” (from her conversations with Shepard)

This enrages me...
It's such complete bull****...

Synthesis asserts organic and synthetics can't learn to get along...
This is not ****ing synthesis; it's the exact ****ing opposite...

I have never been this mad about anything...
I almost never got mad in my life before this...
Synthesis is so ****ing hateful...

Pretty sure D.S was just doing what I asked, listing what subplots apply to which themes. He's not saying that particular subplot provides a reason why you should pick synthesis, if thats what you meant. Or are you just raging that others would be silly enough to pick it, given what we know from the game?

[D.Sharrah]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

It is a widespread kissconception that EC is only dialougue and cutscenes. Bioware has not ruled out gameplay.

Also EC has been in development for 3 months by the entire single player team, not just the DLC team. For comparision Lair of the Shadow Broker took 2,5 months to develop by the DLC team. EC is going to be big.

Best typo ever! LMAO!

How did I do that....

Don't know...don't care..only care that it made me laugh!  And we need more of that (and less trolls)!

[MaximizedAction]

HellishFiend wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Snip..

I did say I was lazy.

Also, youtube's audio setup filters infrasound: 
That video originally had no audible sounds <_<

edit:
Here's the original: http://www.sendspace.com/file/a1l00f

Whoah, I can hear the diaphragm from my headphones oscillate. Truly, frequencies below 20Hz.

Not on the youtube video you're not  If you downloaded it then yeah, totally

Jesus. Apparently my system will play infrasonic to a fair extent. I'll see if I can upload a vid of my woofer cones "dancing to the music". 

I can hear my headphone drums do the Shepard.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 21 juin 2012 - 09:14 .

[nightcobra]

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

As I said I LIKED the ending but was suspicious about the dream-like nature of it and jumping wounds. I soon discovered ACAVYOS' video on indoctrination and knew it was big. I watched with my eyes widely open and thought: damn, it makes sense!.

No wonder you think the godchild never lies and that control is the best literal choice!

Because in the literal ending (that everything happens for real he does tell the truth. It only makes sense for him to lie in the IT interpretation because IT treats the current ending as a transitory scene that leads to the further development of the story.

if i take the ending in face value then i'd have to say that even then i wouldn't trust the kid.
if nothing else because i don't believe power of such magnitude as control of the reapers can be handed over to a human or any organic sentient being at present with the old saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely".
and synthesis....well, i wouldn't trust a such plan proposed by someone who already thinks the reapers are the ultimate stage of life's evolution

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 21 juin 2012 - 09:20 .

[paxxton]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

paxxton wrote...

As I said I LIKED the ending but was suspicious about the dream-like nature of it and jumping wounds. I soon discovered ACAVYOS' video on indoctrination and knew it was big. I watched with my eyes widely open and thought: damn, it makes sense!.

No wonder you think the godchild never lies and that control is the best literal choice!

Because in the literal ending (that everything happens for real he does tell the truth. It only makes sense for him to lie in the IT interpretation because IT treats the current ending as a transitory scene that leads to the further development of the story.

if i take the ending in face value then i'd have to say that even then i wouldn't trust the kid.
if nothing else because i don't believe power of such magnitude as control of the reapers can be handed over to a human or any organic sentient being at present with the old saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely".
and synthesis....well, i wouldn't trust a such plan proposed by someone who already thinks the reapers are the ultimate stage of life's evolution

I wasn't offered Synthesis so I had to chose between Control and Destroy.  I didn't want to lose the Mass Relay technology with Destroy.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 09:23 .

[HellishFiend]

Wow, this is crazy. That infrasound makes my subwoofer move at a frequency that my camcorder sees as standing still. It's moving around quite a bit but the camcorder records it as if it were standing still half the time. The tower woofers' cone movement is much more visible to the camera though.

[TJBartlemus]

Paralenko wrote...

Sorry if this theory has been posted before. I'm a bit late to the debate.

What if Commander Shepard is "the catalyst." That could explain why they used Shepard's voices for the child. It could also explain how Shepard could set off the Crucible without leaving London.

Just throwing it out there.

That would mean the entire situation was still in his mind. Also if the theme has been destroy then why would he make 2 new choices, and make him choose and...... ahhhh too much!!!

Sorry, it doesn't have much to reinforce this. Unless Shepard has multiple-personality disorder...