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[MaximizedAction]

HellishFiend wrote...

Wow, this is crazy. That infrasound makes my subwoofer move at a frequency that my camcorder sees as standing still. It's moving around quite a bit but the camcorder records it as if it were standing still half the time. The tower woofers' cone movement is much more visible to the camera though.

What's your camcorder's speed of pics per second? Assuming the usual cinema frequency, it's 25 shots per sec. So here you got, that's 25Hz that your camcorder can't 'see'.

EDIT: looked it up, it's called frames per second (FPS) and the minimum is 25Hz to produce a smooth sequence of pictures, and that increases monotonically with the price of the camcorder.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 21 juin 2012 - 09:29 .

[FellishBeast]

byne wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Without major fixing, I will never acknowledge a ME4.

That being said, if they end ME3 well, I'd play any other ME game. Any genre, idc, as long as it is good.

I'm in a better situation because I liked the ending the first time I saw it even though it was really sad and had some weird inconsistencies (like the camera showing Shepard's wound).

Funny, I too..not liked it, but...accepted it. Yes it was weird, but so are many movies. Then, people started pointing out circular logic, etc. and of course Bioware's 'lies' told pre-release.
Then came shameful dark-ages, or .

But after that the discovery of IT.

While the credits were still rolling I was on google searching for answers. I discovered BSN and IT that day. I also entered a 2 week gaming depression.

You're lucky you had IT to go to to help you feel better. I had to start the thread to make myself feel better, and only slowly started feeling better as the theory got more fleshed out.

Believe me, it still took me a couple weeks to process everything. I was a full-blown WoW addict, and I stopped playing altogether .

I devoted my life to the BSN forums and to the hatred of BioWare and EA. The more I looked into IT, the more I realized that the ending failure had to be, at least somewhat, intentional. Especially in the last few weeks. There is just so much discouragement on these forums that it is difficult to see the hope.

But yeah, thank you for making this thread. It has grown into a beautiful Intergalactic Spaceworm! (that is what I call threads or messages that get ridiculously huge, and I pretend that everyone is feeding it and that one day I will send it into space to take over planets and have babies.)

[D.Sharrah]

HellishFiend wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

2.3. Synthesis
2.3.2. EDI’s inclusion of human thought processes and “emotions” (from her conversations with Shepard)

This enrages me...
It's such complete bull****...

Synthesis asserts organic and synthetics can't learn to get along...
This is not ****ing synthesis; it's the exact ****ing opposite...

I have never been this mad about anything...
I almost never got mad in my life before this...
Synthesis is so ****ing hateful...

Pretty sure D.S was just doing what I asked, listing what subplots apply to which themes. He's not saying that particular subplot provides a reason why you should pick synthesis, if thats what you meant. Or are you just raging that others would be silly enough to pick it, given what we know from the game?

Thanks for the support...wasn't trying to make anyone mad..that's for sure.  I even stated that if anyone felt there were any mistakes (or anything to add), to please correct. 

All that being said, I am not sure that I agree with you Bill.  Starbinger's reasoning for synthesis is what suggests that synthetics and organics can't get along...not sythesis itself.  A technological singularity is a possibility based on the curve of improving technology - the "choice" in the game is a shortcut to that...nothing more nothing less.  Now the morality of making that choice for everyone and Starbinger's reasoning for it - putrid.  The actual event, the combining of synthetic and organic - there can be beauty in that - it is one of the reasons that I always choose to let Legion upload the reaper code and to shout down the Quarians.

[FellishBeast]

TJBartlemus wrote...

Paralenko wrote...

Sorry if this theory has been posted before. I'm a bit late to the debate.

What if Commander Shepard is "the catalyst." That could explain why they used Shepard's voices for the child. It could also explain how Shepard could set off the Crucible without leaving London.

Just throwing it out there.

That would mean the entire situation was still in his mind. Also if the theme has been destroy then why would he make 2 new choices, and make him choose and...... ahhhh too much!!!

Sorry, it doesn't have much to reinforce this. Unless Shepard has multiple-personality disorder...

Or the Crucible is testing him to make sure he isn't corrupted.

Modifié par FellishBeast, 21 juin 2012 - 09:29 .

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Wow, this is crazy. That infrasound makes my subwoofer move at a frequency that my camcorder sees as standing still. It's moving around quite a bit but the camcorder records it as if it were standing still half the time. The tower woofers' cone movement is much more visible to the camera though.

What's your camcorder's speed of pics per second? Assuming the usual cinema frequency, it's 25 shots per sec. So here you got, that's 25Hz that your camcorder can't 'see'.

EDIT: looked it up, it's called frames per second (FPS) and the minimum is 25Hz to produce a smooth sequence of pictures, and that increases monotonically with the price of the camcorder.

So such a camcorder is unable to record precise videos of phenomena that oscillate faster (with a higher frequency) than 25Hz.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 09:37 .

[HellishFiend]

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Wow, this is crazy. That infrasound makes my subwoofer move at a frequency that my camcorder sees as standing still. It's moving around quite a bit but the camcorder records it as if it were standing still half the time. The tower woofers' cone movement is much more visible to the camera though.

What's your camcorder's speed of pics per second? Assuming the usual cinema frequency, it's 25 shots per sec. So here you got, that's 25Hz that your camcorder can't 'see'.

EDIT: looked it up, it's called frames per second (FPS) and the minimum is 25Hz to produce a smooth sequence of pictures, and that increases monotonically with the price of the camcorder.

So such a camcorder is unable to record precise videos of phenomena that oscillate faster (with a higher frequency) than 25Hz.

Well, here is the phenomena that my camcorder is able to pick up:

 

[estebanus]

Oh god, Seival made a new thread: The ultimate ending support thread.
By this point, it's gotta be obvious he's a troll!

Thank god that thread was locked before it could grow roots like his normandy crash scene support thread!

[HellishFiend]

estebanus wrote...

Oh god, Seival made a new thread: The ultimate ending support thread.
By this point, it's gotta be obvious he's a troll!

Thank god that thread was locked before it could grow roots like his normandy crash scene support thread!

It's like he's not even trying to hide it anymore. Even used the original Space Winter instead of Stargazer.

Modifié par HellishFiend, 21 juin 2012 - 09:47 .

[LazyTechGuy]

Hellish, I'm betting you already saw this comment from a reddit post about your video but just in case:

"I found this comment on an article on Kotaku about the secret of the music of ME3:

Very well spotted! You're correct... there's actually a few other places we used elements of Vigil in both ME2 and ME3. In fact, we laced the entire game with a lot of audio Easter eggs... some fun, some tied to the narrative and some that go pretty far down the psychology rabbit hole

Rob Blake
Audio Lead - Mass Effect franchise
Bioware - EA"

Modifié par LazyTechGuy, 21 juin 2012 - 09:47 .

[HellishFiend]

LazyTechGuy wrote...

Hellish, I'm betting you already saw this comment from a reddit post about you're video but just in case:

"I found this comment on an article on Kotaku about the secret of the music of ME3:

Very well spotted! You're correct... there's actually a few other places we used elements of Vigil in both ME2 and ME3. In fact, we laced the entire game with a lot of audio Easter eggs... some fun, some tied to the narrative and some that go pretty far down the psychology rabbit hole

Rob Blake
Audio Lead - Mass Effect franchise
Bioware - EA"

Yep, I've seen that. That same guy has probably already heard about our infrasound discovery by word of mouth, but I doubt he'll come forward and say anything about it until after EC. 

edit: Wait, there's a reddit post about my video? 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 21 juin 2012 - 09:48 .

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Wow, this is crazy. That infrasound makes my subwoofer move at a frequency that my camcorder sees as standing still. It's moving around quite a bit but the camcorder records it as if it were standing still half the time. The tower woofers' cone movement is much more visible to the camera though.

What's your camcorder's speed of pics per second? Assuming the usual cinema frequency, it's 25 shots per sec. So here you got, that's 25Hz that your camcorder can't 'see'.

EDIT: looked it up, it's called frames per second (FPS) and the minimum is 25Hz to produce a smooth sequence of pictures, and that increases monotonically with the price of the camcorder.

So such a camcorder is unable to record precise videos of phenomena that oscillate faster (with a higher frequency) than 25Hz.

Well, here is the phenomena that my camcorder is able to pick up:

 

I think it should be moving slower with lower frequency.

[clennon8]

FellishBeast wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Paralenko wrote...

Sorry if this theory has been posted before. I'm a bit late to the debate.

What if Commander Shepard is "the catalyst." That could explain why they used Shepard's voices for the child. It could also explain how Shepard could set off the Crucible without leaving London.

Just throwing it out there.

That would mean the entire situation was still in his mind. Also if the theme has been destroy then why would he make 2 new choices, and make him choose and...... ahhhh too much!!!

Sorry, it doesn't have much to reinforce this. Unless Shepard has multiple-personality disorder...

Or the Crucible is testing him to make sure he isn't corrupted.

Interesting.  I hadn't really thought about this angle, although I suppose it should be obvious.  So, rather than being
a) an agent of the Reapers, trying to complete Shepard's indoctrination, or
exactly what he claims to be, the Starchild is 
c) a manifestation of the Crucible, testing Shepard to make sure he hasn't been comprimised?

Do I have that right? 

Modifié par clennon8, 21 juin 2012 - 09:50 .

[HellishFiend]

paxxton wrote...

I think it should be moving slower with lower frequency.

I think you're confusing the sound we have with a constant sine wave. Two different things. The infrasound from the Normandy is a mix of a whole bunch of different infrasound frequencies, so it wouldnt just be moving at a constant low rate. 

[D.Sharrah]

FellishBeast wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Paralenko wrote...

Sorry if this theory has been posted before. I'm a bit late to the debate.

What if Commander Shepard is "the catalyst." That could explain why they used Shepard's voices for the child. It could also explain how Shepard could set off the Crucible without leaving London.

Just throwing it out there.

That would mean the entire situation was still in his mind. Also if the theme has been destroy then why would he make 2 new choices, and make him choose and...... ahhhh too much!!!

Sorry, it doesn't have much to reinforce this. Unless Shepard has multiple-personality disorder...

Or the Crucible is testing him to make sure he isn't corrupted.

I was reading your post and I remebered something...take a look at this..

http://www.youtube.c...K0WYH6xE#t=162s

The VI says that it needs to interface with the systems to help with the Catalyst...but then take a look at this...

http://www.youtube.c...ldCYki5c#t=462s

and

http://www.youtube.c...ldCYki5c#t=853s

Is it just me or are you walking out w/o the VI, after it initially told you that you would need it to interface with the systems.

[estebanus]

HellishFiend wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Oh god, Seival made a new thread: The ultimate ending support thread.
By this point, it's gotta be obvious he's a troll!

Thank god that thread was locked before it could grow roots like his normandy crash scene support thread!

It's like he's not even trying to hide it anymore. Even used the original Space Winter instead of Stargazer.

I mean, first his troll thread that parodies the IT, now... this?

I know I shouldn't say it, but those people who spammed the jimmy-rustling pics are heroes IMO. They prevented another catastrophy from being unleashed on the BSN.

[llbountyhunter]

Hellish, you should try this with your camcorder ...

[byne]

FellishBeast wrote...

byne wrote...


You're lucky you had IT to go to to help you feel better. I had to start the thread to make myself feel better, and only slowly started feeling better as the theory got more fleshed out.

Believe me, it still took me a couple weeks to process everything. I was a full-blown WoW addict, and I stopped playing altogether .

Me too! I only recently started playing again last week. Alliance or Horde?

[Headbutters inc]

Hey guys, long time lurker with little time to check the thread.

Has anyone commented on this thread on the line that the prothean VI says to shepherd?

'I do not sense the taint of indoctrination upon any of you. Unlike the other that passed through recently.'

Could the word 'unlike' suggest it can only detect a high level of Indoctrination?

[MegumiAzusa]

HellishFiend wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

Hellish, I'm betting you already saw this comment from a reddit post about you're video but just in case:

"I found this comment on an article on Kotaku about the secret of the music of ME3:

Very well spotted! You're correct... there's actually a few other places we used elements of Vigil in both ME2 and ME3. In fact, we laced the entire game with a lot of audio Easter eggs... some fun, some tied to the narrative and some that go pretty far down the psychology rabbit hole

Rob Blake
Audio Lead - Mass Effect franchise
Bioware - EA"

Yep, I've seen that. That same guy has probably already heard about our infrasound discovery by word of mouth, but I doubt he'll come forward and say anything about it until after EC. 

edit: Wait, there's a reddit post about my video? 

No, the post he referes to refers to this: http://kotaku.com/58...-musical-secret

[MaximizedAction]

LazyTechGuy wrote...

Hellish, I'm betting you already saw this comment from a reddit post about your video but just in case:

"I found this comment on an article on Kotaku about the secret of the music of ME3:

Very well spotted! You're correct... there's actually a few other places we used elements of Vigil in both ME2 and ME3. In fact, we laced the entire game with a lot of audio Easter eggs... some fun, some tied to the narrative and some that go pretty far down the psychology rabbit hole

Rob Blake
Audio Lead - Mass Effect franchise
Bioware - EA"

I've read that article, but back then I just read over that part. Man...so these low frequencies, including stuff like the growl after the vent scene, including the flashbacks...psychology rabbitholes everywhere.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

LazyTechGuy wrote...

Hellish, I'm betting you already saw this comment from a reddit post about your video but just in case:

"I found this comment on an article on Kotaku about the secret of the music of ME3:

Very well spotted! You're correct... there's actually a few other places we used elements of Vigil in both ME2 and ME3. In fact, we laced the entire game with a lot of audio Easter eggs... some fun, some tied to the narrative and some that go pretty far down the psychology rabbit hole

Rob Blake
Audio Lead - Mass Effect franchise
Bioware - EA"

duuuude
audio Easter eggs that go pretty far down the psychology rabbit hole?
wat

[clennon8]

This infrasound stuff is quite interesting, HF. I need to see that there's an identifiable pattern of it being used in areas where you would expect it to be used - and only in those areas - before I can be fully convinced, though. I eagerly await your second video.

Modifié par clennon8, 21 juin 2012 - 09:55 .

[D.Sharrah]

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Wow, this is crazy. That infrasound makes my subwoofer move at a frequency that my camcorder sees as standing still. It's moving around quite a bit but the camcorder records it as if it were standing still half the time. The tower woofers' cone movement is much more visible to the camera though.

What's your camcorder's speed of pics per second? Assuming the usual cinema frequency, it's 25 shots per sec. So here you got, that's 25Hz that your camcorder can't 'see'.

EDIT: looked it up, it's called frames per second (FPS) and the minimum is 25Hz to produce a smooth sequence of pictures, and that increases monotonically with the price of the camcorder.

So such a camcorder is unable to record precise videos of phenomena that oscillate faster (with a higher frequency) than 25Hz.

Well, here is the phenomena that my camcorder is able to pick up:

 

That is quite telling...thanks for the vid!

[HellishFiend]

estebanus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Oh god, Seival made a new thread: The ultimate ending support thread.
By this point, it's gotta be obvious he's a troll!

Thank god that thread was locked before it could grow roots like his normandy crash scene support thread!

It's like he's not even trying to hide it anymore. Even used the original Space Winter instead of Stargazer.

I mean, first his troll thread that parodies the IT, now... this?

I know I shouldn't say it, but those people who spammed the jimmy-rustling pics are heroes IMO. They prevented another catastrophy from being unleashed on the BSN.

They also got banned for it. But really, if you hate trolls and know how to spot them, why do you reply to them and post so much about them? "You're doing just what they want.." 

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I think it should be moving slower with lower frequency.

I think you're confusing the sound we have with a constant sine wave. Two different things. The infrasound from the Normandy is a mix of a whole bunch of different infrasound frequencies, so it wouldnt just be moving at a constant low rate. 

So the speaker tries to move simultaneously to many different infrasounds and is "confused" and that's why it shakes so rapidly?