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[MegumiAzusa]

HellishFiend wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I think it should be moving slower with lower frequency.

I think you're confusing the sound we have with a constant sine wave. Two different things. The infrasound from the Normandy is a mix of a whole bunch of different infrasound frequencies, so it wouldnt just be moving at a constant low rate. 

So the speaker tries to move simultaneously to many different infrasounds and is "confused" and that's why it shakes so rapidly?

Not sure if joking here oO
But what happens is all different waves are added up to a new wave. This results in a wave with a non steady frequency which is again split up by the ear. This is also why you can actively cancel noise, just add the negative.

OMG you're right. I so forgot about that addition.

Sorry but I still can't believe you both really thought the speakers get confused.

No, the difference is that I'm fine with him just getting the basic understanding while you feel you need to be an ass about it for some reason. I know the proper way to word it, but I dont see the need to go into  OMG I know stuff you dont!!! mode.

You said you ignore my posts, please do so in the future.

[Andromidius]

byne wrote...
Bah! For the Alliance!

Alliance here too.  Though I don't dislike the Horde, they are cool too.

Varian is a jerk, but Garrosh is...  Urgh.  He's the worst.  It makes me so angry when I see people saying how good a Warchief he is, when its clear he's the worst written character in all of Warcraft.  Ignoring Ronin, who I wish just didn't exist.

[ImCommanderShepard]

If Shepard was indoctrinated, why did the Prothean VI on Thessia only shut down when Kai Leng showed up? Indoctrination doesn't just happen overnight.

[HellishFiend]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I think it should be moving slower with lower frequency.

I think you're confusing the sound we have with a constant sine wave. Two different things. The infrasound from the Normandy is a mix of a whole bunch of different infrasound frequencies, so it wouldnt just be moving at a constant low rate. 

So the speaker tries to move simultaneously to many different infrasounds and is "confused" and that's why it shakes so rapidly?

Not sure if joking here oO
But what happens is all different waves are added up to a new wave. This results in a wave with a non steady frequency which is again split up by the ear. This is also why you can actively cancel noise, just add the negative.

OMG you're right. I so forgot about that addition.

Sorry but I still can't believe you both really thought the speakers get confused.

No, the difference is that I'm fine with him just getting the basic understanding while you feel you need to be an ass about it for some reason. I know the proper way to word it, but I dont see the need to go into  OMG I know stuff you dont!!! mode.

You said you ignore my posts, please do so in the future.

You do the same. I'm tired of you ragging on everything I say. 

[FellishBeast]

clennon8 wrote...

clennon8 wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Or the Crucible is testing him to make sure he isn't corrupted.

Interesting.  I hadn't really thought about this angle, although I suppose it should be obvious.  So, rather than being
a) an agent of the Reapers, trying to complete Shepard's indoctrination, or
exactly what he claims to be, the Starchild is 
c) a manifestation of the Crucible, testing Shepard to make sure he hasn't been comprimised?

Do I have that right? 

I don't want this to get lost in the shuffle.  Maybe I'm just really slow (quite possible) but this is the first time I've really considered possibility © from above. At first blush, I really like the idea.  It does fit pretty well with the notion that Shepard is the true "catalyst" as well.  I'm not sure I'm ready to make either leap just yet, but it's certainly getting me thinking.

I just considered today, so you're not behind at all! 

All we can really do now is take ideas and just run with them until they hit a roadblock. That's how we're developing our theories, hehe. And how we pass the time until EC, lol.

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I think it should be moving slower with lower frequency.

I think you're confusing the sound we have with a constant sine wave. Two different things. The infrasound from the Normandy is a mix of a whole bunch of different infrasound frequencies, so it wouldnt just be moving at a constant low rate. 

So the speaker tries to move simultaneously to many different infrasounds and is "confused" and that's why it shakes so rapidly?

Not sure if joking here oO
But what happens is all different waves are added up to a new wave. This results in a wave with a non steady frequency which is again split up by the ear. This is also why you can actively cancel noise, just add the negative.

OMG you're right. I so forgot about that addition.

Sorry but I still can't believe you both really thought the speakers get confused.

No, the difference is that I'm fine with him just getting the basic understanding while you feel you need to be an ass about it for some reason. I know the proper way to word it, but I dont see the need to go into  OMG I know stuff you dont!!! mode.

LOL. I feel a bit ashamed that I forgot about that addition. It's basic knowledge and I was temporarily confused.  I should review wave physics.

[MegumiAzusa]

HellishFiend wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I think it should be moving slower with lower frequency.

I think you're confusing the sound we have with a constant sine wave. Two different things. The infrasound from the Normandy is a mix of a whole bunch of different infrasound frequencies, so it wouldnt just be moving at a constant low rate. 

So the speaker tries to move simultaneously to many different infrasounds and is "confused" and that's why it shakes so rapidly?

Not sure if joking here oO
But what happens is all different waves are added up to a new wave. This results in a wave with a non steady frequency which is again split up by the ear. This is also why you can actively cancel noise, just add the negative.

OMG you're right. I so forgot about that addition.

Sorry but I still can't believe you both really thought the speakers get confused.

No, the difference is that I'm fine with him just getting the basic understanding while you feel you need to be an ass about it for some reason. I know the proper way to word it, but I dont see the need to go into  OMG I know stuff you dont!!! mode.

You said you ignore my posts, please do so in the future.

You do the same. I'm tired of you ragging on everything I say.

Which I can only do if it's flawed.

[HellishFiend]

paxxton wrote...

LOL. I feel a bit ashamed that I forgot about that addition. It's basic knowledge and I was temporarily confused.  I should review wave physics.

No, it's not your problem at all. Megumi is being an ass. The typical lack of the "Oo omg sorry I cant believe you didnt" attitude is one of the reasons I like this thread. 

[FellishBeast]

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Bah! For the Alliance!

Alliance here too.  Though I don't dislike the Horde, they are cool too.

Varian is a jerk, but Garrosh is...  Urgh.  He's the worst.  It makes me so angry when I see people saying how good a Warchief he is, when its clear he's the worst written character in all of Warcraft.  Ignoring Ronin, who I wish just didn't exist.

Garrosh has his moments. I'm so glad I had all of Cata to hate him, considering he's going to be the final raid boss upon release of Panderia. 

Anyways, this is way OT. 

[D.Sharrah]

D.Sharrah wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

"You can still redeem yourself if you got the guts."

PERFECT

for EC

Hmm, I like it. Needs something to go before it, though.... I'm also thinking a renegade response to TIM is probably fitting, but I cant think of one off the top of my head...

There is this one...



or...



or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=240s

or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=250s

or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=284s

or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=295s

or...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLtPfcHn3fA&feature=player_detailpage#t=304s

or...

all of these spliced together!

If anyone has the time and ability...please splice these responses together...might even be fun to mess with the order a little bit!

[FellishBeast]

Megumi, you need to chill. I hope you realize that Hellish is one of the most pleasant and easy-going people on this thread, and you make him lose it. You need to realize what that says about you.

I don't think you're a troll, but if you are, congrats. If not, maybe think of speaking in a different so as to not come off so abrasively. It's getting old.

<3

Modifié par FellishBeast, 21 juin 2012 - 10:20 .

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LOL. I feel a bit ashamed that I forgot about that addition. It's basic knowledge and I was temporarily confused.  I should review wave physics.

No, it's not your problem at all. Megumi is being an ass. The typical lack of the "Oo omg sorry I cant believe you didnt" attitude is one of the reasons I like this thread. 

She also explained it. I know she sometimes expresses shock and disbelief but she's a good and knowledgeable girl.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 11:08 .

[Vox Draco]

ImCommanderShepard wrote...

If Shepard was indoctrinated, why did the Prothean VI on Thessia only shut down when Kai Leng showed up? Indoctrination doesn't just happen overnight.

And as far as I understand IT this is the whole point, isn't it?

I think the process of Indoctrination of Shepard starts along the way in ME2..all the exposure to husks, scions, pretaorians, Collectors and their technology, the derelict Reaper, the Reaper IFF and the Human Peaper larva plus (canon or not doesn't matter anymore then) Object Rho in Arrival..

But fully indoctrinated? Not until the very end of ME3, I think...In contrast to Cereal Leng...

[byne]

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...
Bah! For the Alliance!

Alliance here too.  Though I don't dislike the Horde, they are cool too.

Varian is a jerk, but Garrosh is...  Urgh.  He's the worst.  It makes me so angry when I see people saying how good a Warchief he is, when its clear he's the worst written character in all of Warcraft.  Ignoring Ronin, who I wish just didn't exist.

I like Rhonin. Haters gonna hate.

As for Garrosh, I cant wait for Mists of Pandaria. He's apparently going to be the final boss, so whether you're Alliance or Horde, you get the satisfaction of killing him.

After Garrosh dies, I hope either Thrall comes back as Warchief, of Vol'jin becomes the leader of the Horde.

Vol'jin totally earned my respect with this conversation:

Garrosh Hellscream says: Don't talk back to me, troll. You know who was left in charge here. Haven't you stopped to ask yourself why Thrall chose me instead of you?

Vol'jin says: Dere be no question why, Garrosh. He gave ya tha title because ya be Grom's Son and because tha people be wantin' a war hero. To which I tink ya be even more like ya father den he thought, even without ya havin' da demon blood.

Garrosh Hellscream says: You are lucky I don't gut you right here, whelp. You are foolish to think that you can speak to your Warchief in such ways.

Vol'jin says: Ya be no Warchief of mine. Ya've not earned my respect and I'll not be seein' tha Horde destroyed by ya foolish thirst for war.

Garrosh Hellscream says: And what exactly do you think that you'll do about it? Your threats are hollow. Go slink away with the rest of your kind in the slums. I will endure your filth in my throne room no longer.

Vol'jin says: I know exactly what I'll be doin' about it, son of Hellscream. I'll be watchin' as ya people slowly become aware of ya ineptitude. I'll laugh as dey grow ta despise ya as I do. And when tha time comes dat ya failure is complete and ya "power" is meaningless, I will be dere to end ya rule, swiftly and silently. Ya will spend ya reign glancin' over ya shoulda and fearin' tha shadows, for when tha time comes and ya blood be slowly drainin' out, ya will know exactly who fired da arrow dat pierced ya heart.

Garrosh Hellscream says: You have sealed your fate, troll.

Vol'jin says: And you yours, "Warchief".

Vol'jin is pretty awesome.

[D.Sharrah]

ImCommanderShepard wrote...

If Shepard was indoctrinated, why did the Prothean VI on Thessia only shut down when Kai Leng showed up? Indoctrination doesn't just happen overnight.

I believe that you answered you own question.  And to clarify, IT does not state that Shep is indoctrinated, but rather that Shep is being indoctrinated...a rather large difference.

[FellishBeast]

byne wrote...

Vol'jin is pretty awesome.

Trolls are definitely my favorite race. My main is one. And yeah, Vol'jin is a bamf.

On the topic of indoctrination (sort of), I think Garrosh is compromised by the Old Gods...but that's just me. I mean, he brought tons upon tons of Yogg-saron's blood back from Northrend with him and rebuilt Orgrimmar with it...

[MegumiAzusa]

FellishBeast wrote...

Megumi, you need to chill. I hope you realize that Hellish is one of the most pleasant and easy-going people on this thread, and you make him lose it. You need to realize what that means about you.

I don't think you're a troll, but if you are, congrats. If not, maybe think of speaking in a different so as to not come off so abrasively. It's getting old.

I can't see any reason to change my behavior which is the same since about 2k pages and no one said anything about it until I attacked statements of HellishFiend and Rifneno because they were flawed.

[D.Sharrah]

Before this gets lost...check out the videos and the comments bolded below in the quote.

D.Sharrah wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Paralenko wrote...

Sorry if this theory has been posted before. I'm a bit late to the debate.

What if Commander Shepard is "the catalyst." That could explain why they used Shepard's voices for the child. It could also explain how Shepard could set off the Crucible without leaving London.

Just throwing it out there.

That would mean the entire situation was still in his mind. Also if the theme has been destroy then why would he make 2 new choices, and make him choose and...... ahhhh too much!!!

Sorry, it doesn't have much to reinforce this. Unless Shepard has multiple-personality disorder...

Or the Crucible is testing him to make sure he isn't corrupted.

I was reading your post and I remebered something...take a look at this..

http://www.youtube.c...K0WYH6xE#t=162s

The VI says that it needs to interface with the systems to help with the Catalyst...but then take a look at this...

http://www.youtube.c...ldCYki5c#t=462s

and

http://www.youtube.c...ldCYki5c#t=853s

Is it just me or are you walking out w/o the VI, after it initially told you that you would need it to interface with the systems.

Edit: Could this be the evidence that we have been looking for, to show that TIM hacked the VI to give us the wrong information?

Modifié par D.Sharrah, 21 juin 2012 - 10:26 .

[TJBartlemus]

ImCommanderShepard wrote...

If Shepard was indoctrinated, why did the Prothean VI on Thessia only shut down when Kai Leng showed up? Indoctrination doesn't just happen overnight.

Well that's the funny thing. He's not indoctrinated. He's being indoctrinated.  The VI can only measure either if you are or if you aren't. Not anywhere inbetween. (At least I believe)

[ImCommanderShepard]

D.Sharrah wrote...

ImCommanderShepard wrote...

If Shepard was indoctrinated, why did the Prothean VI on Thessia only shut down when Kai Leng showed up? Indoctrination doesn't just happen overnight.

I believe that you answered you own question.  And to clarify, IT does not state that Shep is indoctrinated, but rather that Shep is being indoctrinated...a rather large difference.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[D.Sharrah]

TJBartlemus wrote...

ImCommanderShepard wrote...

If Shepard was indoctrinated, why did the Prothean VI on Thessia only shut down when Kai Leng showed up? Indoctrination doesn't just happen overnight.

Well that's the funny thing. He's not indoctrinated. He's being indoctrinated.  The VI can only measure either if you are or if you aren't. Not anywhere inbetween. (At least I believe)

Yeah..we were both 'd by Vox Draco...

[D.Sharrah]

ImCommanderShepard wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

ImCommanderShepard wrote...

If Shepard was indoctrinated, why did the Prothean VI on Thessia only shut down when Kai Leng showed up? Indoctrination doesn't just happen overnight.

I believe that you answered you own question.  And to clarify, IT does not state that Shep is indoctrinated, but rather that Shep is being indoctrinated...a rather large difference.

Thanks for clearing that up.

You are more than welcome...but to be fair, Vox Draco was the first to point this out.

[FellishBeast]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Megumi, you need to chill. I hope you realize that Hellish is one of the most pleasant and easy-going people on this thread, and you make him lose it. You need to realize what that means about you.

I don't think you're a troll, but if you are, congrats. If not, maybe think of speaking in a different so as to not come off so abrasively. It's getting old.

I can't see any reason to change my behavior which is the same since about 2k pages and no one said anything about it until I attacked statements of HellishFiend and Rifneno because they were flawed.

I admit I could be biased, since Hellish has such an awesome name. I just think you said some very harsh things. I think this thread should be friendly and welcoming, and should not crap on people for sharing their thoughts. Debate is inveitable, but it should be done in a civil manner.

Perhaps we disagree on the definition of "civil." 

[D.Sharrah]

 No one wants to look at the youtube clips that I posted about the Prothean VI...

[byne]

FellishBeast wrote...

byne wrote...

Vol'jin is pretty awesome.

Trolls are definitely my favorite race. My main is one. And yeah, Vol'jin is a bamf.

On the topic of indoctrination (sort of), I think Garrosh is compromised by the Old Gods...but that's just me. I mean, he brought tons upon tons of Yogg-saron's blood back from Northrend with him and rebuilt Orgrimmar with it...

My main is just a boring old human. <_<

Although I think my gnomish rogue is dragonborn, since he speaks draconic: