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[HellishFiend]

Lokanaiya wrote...

I'd like to point out that Harbinger is entrusted both with controlling the Collectors and with dealing with Shepard. Neither seem like duties that would be given to the "newbie" of the bunch.

"Harbinger speaks of you"

Thats the only time we ever hear another Reaper reference Harbinger. We only assume he is the leader because of his control of the Collectors and interest in Shepard. But what if he simply controls the Collectors because he has an affinity for them?

Protheans become Collectors, Prothean Reaper controls Collectors.
Humans become Uberhusks, Human Reaper controls Uberhusks.

Would certainly explain the whole "Become a Reaper" business. 

[HellishFiend]

FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Well you could look at it this way... Reaper forms get x1.5 the amount of eyes...
So for Prothean, 4 becomes 6, and for Human 2 becomes 3.

Seems kinda weird, but the math works.

No one has anything to say about this? :happy:

Clearly the Reapers simply think 50% more moar eyes is better! :happy:

Nope, I've got nothing to say to this. You're surprised? 

I really thought the humans double eye looked identical to a Protheans. Maybe the Collectors were playing the "artistic integrity" card.

Edit: In other news: I will never unlock the Krogan Sentinel 

At first I read that as "In other words: I will never unlock the Krogan Sentinel" and was about to compliment you on your fine logic. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 22 juin 2012 - 05:49 .

[Makrys]

HellishFiend wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

I'd like to point out that Harbinger is entrusted both with controlling the Collectors and with dealing with Shepard. Neither seem like duties that would be given to the "newbie" of the bunch.

"Harbinger speaks of you"

Thats the only time we ever hear another Reaper reference Harbinger. We only assume he is the leader because of his control of the Collectors and interest in Shepard. But what if he simply controls the Collectors because he has an affinity for them?

Protheans become Collectors, Prothean Reaper controls Collectors.
Humans become Uberhusks, Human Reaper controls Uberhusks.

Would certainly explain the whole "Become a Reaper" business. 

There is no human Reaper though. So, who's controlling the husks?

[Rifneno]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Makes me wonder if the Reapers, are actually called Peepers, and the Protheans are just to severe to have a sense of humor.

Whist searching for the proper pics for that incredibly ill-advised post, I found this one that... well, I'd be remiss if I didn't share this one now:

[Dendio1]

HellishFiend wrote...


Thanks Dendio1. We havent always seen eye-to-eye, but I'm glad you're on our side.

Wait...where have I heard that before? 

No problem .

To quote EDI: "It was necessary"

Modifié par Dendio1, 22 juin 2012 - 05:52 .

[FellishBeast]

HellishFiend wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Well you could look at it this way... Reaper forms get x1.5 the amount of eyes...
So for Prothean, 4 becomes 6, and for Human 2 becomes 3.

Seems kinda weird, but the math works.

No one has anything to say about this? :happy:

Clearly the Reapers simply think 50% more moar eyes is better! :happy:

Nope, I've got nothing to say to this. You're surprised? 

I really thought the humans double eye looked identical to a Protheans. Maybe the Collectors were playing the "artistic integrity" card.

Edit: In other news: I will never unlock the Krogan Sentinel 

At first I read that as "In other words: I will never unlock the Krogan Sentinel" and was about to compliment you on your fine logic. 

My logic is infrasound. 

[HellishFiend]

Makrys wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

I'd like to point out that Harbinger is entrusted both with controlling the Collectors and with dealing with Shepard. Neither seem like duties that would be given to the "newbie" of the bunch.

"Harbinger speaks of you"

Thats the only time we ever hear another Reaper reference Harbinger. We only assume he is the leader because of his control of the Collectors and interest in Shepard. But what if he simply controls the Collectors because he has an affinity for them?

Protheans become Collectors, Prothean Reaper controls Collectors.
Humans become Uberhusks, Human Reaper controls Uberhusks.

Would certainly explain the whole "Become a Reaper" business. 

There is no human Reaper though. So, who's controlling the husks?

Collectors acted like husks in Javik's visions. Mindless attacking enemies. Maybe having a Reaper to control them makes them smarter and more organized like we see them act in the comics/ME2.

[Rifneno]

HellishFiend wrote...

At first I read that as "In other words: I will never unlock the Krogan Sentinel" and was about to compliment you on your fine logic. 

Geth > krogan sentinel anyway.  Damned stunlock.  

[UrgentArchengel]

 @Makrys
Probably just follow the signals, no actual "control".  Kinda like full on Indoctrination 

[FellishBeast]

Rifneno wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Makes me wonder if the Reapers, are actually called Peepers, and the Protheans are just to severe to have a sense of humor.

Whist searching for the proper pics for that incredibly ill-advised post, I found this one that... well, I'd be remiss if I didn't share this one now:

A HUMAN PEEPER?

I think we already have plenty of those, hehehe. 

[FellishBeast]

HellishFiend wrote...

Makrys wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Lokanaiya wrote...

I'd like to point out that Harbinger is entrusted both with controlling the Collectors and with dealing with Shepard. Neither seem like duties that would be given to the "newbie" of the bunch.

"Harbinger speaks of you"

Thats the only time we ever hear another Reaper reference Harbinger. We only assume he is the leader because of his control of the Collectors and interest in Shepard. But what if he simply controls the Collectors because he has an affinity for them?

Protheans become Collectors, Prothean Reaper controls Collectors.
Humans become Uberhusks, Human Reaper controls Uberhusks.

Would certainly explain the whole "Become a Reaper" business. 

There is no human Reaper though. So, who's controlling the husks?

Collectors acted like husks in Javik's visions. Mindless attacking enemies. Maybe having a Reaper to control them makes them smarter and more organized like we see them act in the comics/ME2.

Same applies to the Geth, it seems.

[Salient Archer]

Just wanted to weigh in on the Harbinger as the Prothean reaper debate. Although the codex does claim that he's the oldest Reaper and that would mean he must be much, much older than the Prothean cycle why does he bare such a startling appearance to the Collectors and (hence) the Protheans?, but, having said that if we must question the validity of the source of this information itself: The Codex, what weight do any of our other arguments that depend on the Codex carry?

[HellishFiend]

Salient Archer wrote...

Just wanted to weigh in on the Harbinger as the Prothean reaper debate. Although the codex does claim that he's the oldest Reaper and that would mean he must be much, much older than the Prothean cycle why does he bare such a startling appearance to the Collectors and (hence) the Protheans?, but, having said that if we must question the validity of the source of this information itself: The Codex, what weight do any of our other arguments that depend on the Codex carry?

Genuine question: what other codex entries do we rely on besides the one on indoctrination? I cant recall any other codex entries that we cite as a support for IT. 

[Rifneno]

Don't be silly, the codex is our bible™.

[Makrys]

Yes, but Collectors can fire guns. Were they not in the flash backs, I can't remember?

Husks just want to tickle you to death.

Modifié par Makrys, 22 juin 2012 - 05:56 .

[UrgentArchengel]

It's way too hot here to think straight, or properly. So don't mind me.

[UrgentArchengel]

Makrys wrote...

Yes, but Collectors can fire guns. Were they not in the flash backs, I can't remember?

Husks just want to tickle you to death.

Never forget Marauder Sheilds!

[Lokanaiya]

The indoctrination codex entry is based off actual observation, but in-universe there's no way to find out how old Harbinger is.

[HellishFiend]

Makrys wrote...

Yes, but Collectors can fire guns. Were they not in the flash backs, I can't remember?

Husks just want to tickle you to death.

Well, for what it's worth, I still think the theory bears merit. It would explain a lot of things, and if husks being weak melee enemies instead of gun toting enemies is the biggest problem with the idea, I think that says more for it than against it... 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 22 juin 2012 - 05:59 .

[UrgentArchengel]

Lokanaiya wrote...

The indoctrination codex entry is based off actual observation, but in-universe there's no way to find out how old Harbinger is.

Well you could just go up and ask.  /sarcasm.

[Rifneno]

I always found it amusing that while the Reapers consider humans the best species for this cycle, reaperized humans are the most laughably pathetic of their forces. Then again, nothing makes less sense than banshees being the badass unit instead of brutes.

[HellishFiend]

Rifneno wrote...

I always found it amusing that while the Reapers consider humans the best species for this cycle, reaperized humans are the most laughably pathetic of their forces. Then again, nothing makes less sense than banshees being the badass unit instead of brutes.

I agree. If we're supposedly most valuable as genetic goo, why turn so many into husks....

[HellishFiend]

Anyway, I'd really like to stick around since we have some actual speculation going... but I have to get back to recording. Break time is over, I have a Mordin to shoot.....

[Makrys]

HellishFiend wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Yes, but Collectors can fire guns. Were they not in the flash backs, I can't remember?

Husks just want to tickle you to death.

Well, for what it's worth, I still think the theory bears merit. It would explain a lot of things, and if husks being weak melee enemies instead of gun toting enemies is the biggest problem with the idea, I think that says more for it than against it... 

I don't see how. Mindlessly running at someone is mindless. Handling a gun, and using tactics is a whole different story; requires some form of control. 

[FellishBeast]

HellishFiend wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I always found it amusing that while the Reapers consider humans the best species for this cycle, reaperized humans are the most laughably pathetic of their forces. Then again, nothing makes less sense than banshees being the badass unit instead of brutes.

I agree. If we're supposedly most valuable as genetic goo, why turn so many into husks....

I'll take a shot at it.

ME1 already had husks, and they wanted to keep them though the entire trilogy. When it came to making the Reaper forces, they wanted to get as much diversity as possible and use as many different alien races as possible. A lot got left out, obviously. So I guess there probably wasn't any room left for a plethora of different human Reaper monsters. They did have Scions in ME2, though. Those were bamfs.

Also, if you compare humans physical stature to the other races, we can be found lacking. I think it is the intangible qualities of humanity that got Harbinger's attention.

So yeah, they want the human spirit, not the body, as much, maybe? Husks have bravery against all odds going for them, that's for sure!

Modifié par FellishBeast, 22 juin 2012 - 06:10 .