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[Wowky]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Well, if you've thought about the ending for more than a few minutes (and I mean actual thought beyond "I hate it, it sucks, and everyone says it does, so it must suck.") then most people come to the realization that something's up.

Agreed. Even the first time I saw the ending I was a bit like "er? That doesn't seem right", but didn't really know why. However, watching some of the videos, reading some of the posts in this thread, there are so many little clues that went totally over my head as I played the games.

Seeing them all pointed out makes me want IT to be true, simply because of the care that has gone into finding them!

[paxxton]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Well, if you've thought about the ending for more than a few minutes (and I mean actual thought beyond "I hate it, it sucks, and everyone says it does, so it must suck.") then most people come to the realization that something's up.

You're right. There was just something weird/unreal about all the Citadel scenes. But I liked the ending anyway although it was rather sad to watch Shepard burn to death. 

Modifié par paxxton, 18 mai 2012 - 09:13 .

[Salient Archer]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Well, we need target practice. ENDORSE MY LAZINESS! DON'T MAKE ME UPDATE MY SCRIPT!

(Speaking of which, taking requests, anything you guys wanna see in said re-write, I do this to keep you lot entertained, so what do you think I should work in? I've already decided on "Coates as a traitor" "Anderson's Indoctrination" More closing credits cards, scripting out Hammer's withdrawal/regoup/advance, scenes with Sword Fleet, Rachni disasemmbling a destroyer, possibly some places for gameplay, want your collective thoughts on this one, and potentially Raistlin's "The Crucible is a Mass Accelerator Cannon" theory.)

A spontaneous dance off between Shepard and Harbinger ala Star Wars kinect.

Popular opinion is a powerful force, one that feeds on itself. I'm also willing to bet most of the people whom insist Dragon Age 2 was "TEH WURST GAME EVAR!" are doing so for the same reasons. Worst Dragon Age to date? I'll agree with that, worst game ever? Not by a VERY long margin. Give these guys a copy of E.T. for the Atari, have them shell out $60, THEN we'll see how they feel about DA2.

It's like those people who say they love the Godfather trilogy but not that ghastly third installment! no, apparently that's the worst movie ever made ... no, It's just the lame-duck of the 'Godfather' trilogy... I dare them to watch" Freddy got fingered" or "Gigli" and say that GFIII is a terrible movie.

Modifié par Salient Archer, 18 mai 2012 - 09:11 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

I can't believe that we're still stuck on some of these things ... it feels like we're talking in circles half the time... thank goodness for the gun debate or Pezza360 bringing up the Tuchanka/Beam run comparison so we have something new to consider... because I'm starting to feel like we're running out of steam or even stagnating.

Honestly I haven't added anything new, I can admit that... but I'm starting to feel if I did it would get shot down faster than I could present it.

Well, we need target practice. ENDORSE MY LAZINESS! DON'T MAKE ME UPDATE MY SCRIPT!

(Speaking of which, taking requests, anything you guys wanna see in said re-write, I do this to keep you lot entertained, so what do you think I should work in? I've already decided on "Coates as a traitor" "Anderson's Indoctrination" More closing credits cards, scripting out Hammer's withdrawal/regoup/advance, scenes with Sword Fleet, Rachni disasemmbling a destroyer, possibly some places for gameplay, want your collective thoughts on this one, and potentially Raistlin's "The Crucible is a Mass Accelerator Cannon" theory.)

I'd like to see your interpretation of potential "Happily ever after
endings" For Shepard/LI/the Galaxy. I personally have a hard time
believe that sort of ending in ME3; the races would probably end up
going to war with each other again after some years pass by regardless
of what the outcome is for Shepard but maybe that's the pessimism
talking... ... If I may suggest, add "little blue children" in there somewhere, that'll get some fansupport really going.

Anyway, this is more of an "after the fact" to your
script idea and not an addition, so feel free to ignore it or put it on
the back burner.

On a sidenote, seeing a swarm of Rachni disassembling a Destroyer would be poetic justice on top of being amazingly awesome.

[Salient Archer]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

I can't believe that we're still stuck on some of these things ... it feels like we're talking in circles half the time... thank goodness for the gun debate or Pezza360 bringing up the Tuchanka/Beam run comparison so we have something new to consider... because I'm starting to feel like we're running out of steam or even stagnating.

Honestly I haven't added anything new, I can admit that... but I'm starting to feel if I did it would get shot down faster than I could present it.

Well, we need target practice. ENDORSE MY LAZINESS! DON'T MAKE ME UPDATE MY SCRIPT!

(Speaking of which, taking requests, anything you guys wanna see in said re-write, I do this to keep you lot entertained, so what do you think I should work in? I've already decided on "Coates as a traitor" "Anderson's Indoctrination" More closing credits cards, scripting out Hammer's withdrawal/regoup/advance, scenes with Sword Fleet, Rachni disasemmbling a destroyer, possibly some places for gameplay, want your collective thoughts on this one, and potentially Raistlin's "The Crucible is a Mass Accelerator Cannon" theory.)

I'd like to see your interpretation of potential "Happily ever after
endings" For Shepard/LI/the Galaxy. I personally have a hard time
believe that sort of ending in ME3; the races would probably end up
going to war with each other again after some years pass by regardless
of what the outcome is for Shepard but maybe that's the pessimism
talking... ... If I may suggest, add "little blue children" in there somewhere, that'll get some fansupport really going.

Anyway, this is more of an "after the fact" to your
script idea and not an addition, so feel free to ignore it or put it on
the back burner.

On a sidenote, seeing a swarm of Rachni disassembling a Destroyer would be poetic justice on top of being amazingly awesome.

I still think it needs more of this!

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Hm, now that you mention it, dance offs Are better left in the hands of the fans (I mean look at the backlash they got from SW Kinect because of that.) Anyone with some skill in asset extract/animating? First ups gotta be Broshep vs Femshep.

[Arian Dynas]

[quote]Salient Archer wrote...

[quote]Arian Dynas wrote...

Well, we need target practice. ENDORSE MY LAZINESS! DON'T MAKE ME UPDATE MY SCRIPT!

(Speaking of which, taking requests, anything you guys wanna see in said re-write, I do this to keep you lot entertained, so what do you think I should work in? I've already decided on "Coates as a traitor" "Anderson's Indoctrination" More closing credits cards, scripting out Hammer's withdrawal/regoup/advance, scenes with Sword Fleet, Rachni disasemmbling a destroyer, possibly some places for gameplay, want your collective thoughts on this one, and potentially Raistlin's "The Crucible is a Mass Accelerator Cannon" theory.)
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A spontaneous dance off between Shepard and Harbinger alaStar Wars kinect.
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-.- I will murder you in your sleep. -.-

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[quote]Popular opinion is a powerful force, one that feeds on itself. I'm also willing to bet most of the people whom insist Dragon Age 2 was "TEH WURST GAME EVAR!" are doing so for the same reasons. Worst Dragon Age to date? I'll agree with that, worst game ever? Not by a VERY long margin. Give these guys a copy of E.T. for the Atari, have them shell out $60, THEN we'll see how they feel about DA2.
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It's like those people who say they love the Godfather trilogy but not that ghastly third installment! no, apparently that's the worst movie ever made ... no, It's just the lame-duck of the 'Godfather' trilogy... I dare them to watch" Freddy got fingered" or "Gigli" and say that GFIII is a terrible movie.
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How about Tommy Wiseau's "The Room" while telling them it's a supposed to be serious? Or maybe "The Son of The Mask" and telling them it's supposed to be funny?

[quote]gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

*snip*

On a sidenote, seeing a swarm of Rachni disassembling a Destroyer would be poetic justice on top of being amazingly awesome.

[/quote]

Rifneno's idea actually.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 18 mai 2012 - 09:23 .

[Salient Archer]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Hm, now that you mention it, dance offs Are better left in the hands of the fans (I mean look at the backlash they got from SW Kinect because of that.) Anyone with some skill in asset extract/animating? First ups gotta be Broshep vs Femshep.

Maybe Kaidan vs Ash and they can fight for who Shepard choses to let live on virmire.

Sorry Ash, your robot and sidestep shuffle wasn't quite up to scratch, I'm gonna have to go with Kaidan.

[UrgentArchengel]

http://social.biowar.../index/12119194

VOTE DARN YOU!!!! We're losing. Lol.

[elegolas1]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12119194

VOTE DARN YOU!!!! We're losing. Lol.

ahhh
my poll will be inaccurate!

oh well...

[Arian Dynas]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12119194

VOTE DARN YOU!!!! We're losing. Lol.

No we're not, we're winning by 2. Potentially 7 depending on how you count them. IT was divided into three categories with one neutral category, and a "No" category.

It's a common statisical trick in polls, don't fall for it.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Hm, now that you mention it, dance offs Are better left in the hands of the fans (I mean look at the backlash they got from SW Kinect because of that.) Anyone with some skill in asset extract/animating? First ups gotta be Broshep vs Femshep.

Maybe Kaidan vs Ash and they can fight for who Shepard choses to let live on virmire.

Sorry Ash, your robot and sidestep shuffle wasn't quite up to scratch, I'm gonna have to go with Kaidan.

Ash may not be much of a dancer but I'll leave Kaidan behind 9 times outta 10 <.<

The 10th time being the one time I wanna see his lines in me3 *working on it sorta*

[UrgentArchengel]

Arian Dynas wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12119194

VOTE DARN YOU!!!! We're losing. Lol.

No we're not, we're winning by 2. Potentially 7 depending on how you count them. IT was divided into three categories with one neutral category, and a "No" category.

It's a common statisical trick in polls, don't fall for it.

We were, but it's gone up since.  

[Arian Dynas]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Hm, now that you mention it, dance offs Are better left in the hands of the fans (I mean look at the backlash they got from SW Kinect because of that.) Anyone with some skill in asset extract/animating? First ups gotta be Broshep vs Femshep.

Maybe Kaidan vs Ash and they can fight for who Shepard choses to let live on virmire.

Sorry Ash, your robot and sidestep shuffle wasn't quite up to scratch, I'm gonna have to go with Kaidan.

Ash may not be much of a dancer but I'll leave Kaidan behind 9 times outta 10 <.<

The 10th time being the one time I wanna see his lines in me3 *working on it sorta*

Saved Ash every time since she was my LI, but I liked Kaidan, he seemed like a stand up guy, the sort of fellow you'd play a quiet game of cards with on a tuesday night, could be comfortable around and maybe share a drink. TBH, I wish I had a few more friends like that.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Wasn't there another poll not 5 pages ago on the same subject but with less options? I could've sworn I voted on at least one...

[MaximizedAction]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12119194

VOTE DARN YOU!!!! We're losing. Lol.

Admiral Hackett just reported in, several BRGriffin-class trolls including SubArtris have broken off from trolling other threads, they're headed there.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 18 mai 2012 - 09:36 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Hm, now that you mention it, dance offs Are better left in the hands of the fans (I mean look at the backlash they got from SW Kinect because of that.) Anyone with some skill in asset extract/animating? First ups gotta be Broshep vs Femshep.

Maybe Kaidan vs Ash and they can fight for who Shepard choses to let live on virmire.

Sorry Ash, your robot and sidestep shuffle wasn't quite up to scratch, I'm gonna have to go with Kaidan.

Ash may not be much of a dancer but I'll leave Kaidan behind 9 times outta 10 <.<

The 10th time being the one time I wanna see his lines in me3 *working on it sorta*

Saved Ash every time since she was my LI, but I liked Kaidan, he seemed like a stand up guy, the sort of fellow you'd play a quiet game of cards with on a tuesday night, could be comfortable around and maybe share a drink. TBH, I wish I had a few more friends like that.

I thought Kaidan was an alright guy too, like a bro, but he just annoyed the hell out of me somtimes. Especially on my femsheps, did you know there isn't a "Let's just be friends" option during the "romance convos" after Feros you either have to go for it, allude to a romance, or verbal gut-punch him. Or just not talk to him to begin with, but then I'd feel a bit worse I think. Either way, little blue children for the majority of my Shepards minus the one that romanced Ash.

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12119194

VOTE DARN YOU!!!! We're losing. Lol.

Admiral Hackett just reported in, several BRGriffin-class trolls including SubArtris have broken off from trolling other threads, they're headed there.

THIS IS IT, PEOPLE! PREPARE THE THANNIX MISSLES! THE CRUCIBLE (MASSIVE INDOC DEVICE) IS ON THE MOVE!

Modifié par paxxton, 18 mai 2012 - 09:38 .

[Salient Archer]

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Hm, now that you mention it, dance offs Are better left in the hands of the fans (I mean look at the backlash they got from SW Kinect because of that.) Anyone with some skill in asset extract/animating? First ups gotta be Broshep vs Femshep.

Maybe Kaidan vs Ash and they can fight for who Shepard choses to let live on virmire.

Sorry Ash, your robot and sidestep shuffle wasn't quite up to scratch, I'm gonna have to go with Kaidan.

Ash may not be much of a dancer but I'll leave Kaidan behind 9 times outta 10 <.<

The 10th time being the one time I wanna see his lines in me3 *working on it sorta*

Saved Ash every time since she was my LI, but I liked Kaidan, he seemed like a stand up guy, the sort of fellow you'd play a quiet game of cards with on a tuesday night, could be comfortable around and maybe share a drink. TBH, I wish I had a few more friends like that.

I'm a Liara fanboy forever [apparently I like my women blue, scaly and with folds of skin on their head] but I have to say I'm always torn between Ash and Kaidan when it comes to that choice, I really like them both.

[UrgentArchengel]

elegolas1 wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

http://social.biowar.../index/12119194

VOTE DARN YOU!!!! We're losing. Lol.

ahhh
my poll will be inaccurate!

oh well...

Nah.  It is quite similar to the other one from yesterday.  Neck and neck.  It is quite accurate.  I was just spreading the word.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Salient Archer wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Hm, now that you mention it, dance offs Are better left in the hands of the fans (I mean look at the backlash they got from SW Kinect because of that.) Anyone with some skill in asset extract/animating? First ups gotta be Broshep vs Femshep.

Maybe Kaidan vs Ash and they can fight for who Shepard choses to let live on virmire.

Sorry Ash, your robot and sidestep shuffle wasn't quite up to scratch, I'm gonna have to go with Kaidan.

Ash may not be much of a dancer but I'll leave Kaidan behind 9 times outta 10 <.<

The 10th time being the one time I wanna see his lines in me3 *working on it sorta*

Saved Ash every time since she was my LI, but I liked Kaidan, he seemed like a stand up guy, the sort of fellow you'd play a quiet game of cards with on a tuesday night, could be comfortable around and maybe share a drink. TBH, I wish I had a few more friends like that.

I'm a Liara fanboy forever [apparently I like my women blue, scaly and with folds of skin on their head] but I have to say I'm always torn between Ash and Kaidan when it comes to that choice, I really like them both.

They're not THAT scaley . And Liara's adorable/deadly anyway, not very many Asari you meet are. Hell, I hope sometime after the year 2100 we find a thawed out Mass Relay aimed striaght at the homeworld of those beautiful blue ladies. Even though I might be long dead by then a fanboy can hope, eh?

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 18 mai 2012 - 09:42 .

[fade2black.1337]

I don't think this can be considered a clue -let alone proof- for the IT, but i stumbled upon a peculiar reuse of assets by the devs.

In my first playthrough i chose synthesis, before the IT theory was formulated. I don't know why, but at that moment i didn't feel very confortable with the looks of the "synthesised" characters. I wondered where in the game did i already see the glowing circuitry like specular on the leaves and the characters, but i couldn't figure out where.

Wasn't until my second playthrough, on the cerberus Headquarters level in the room with the Human-Reaper Larvae, that i gave a closer look to the destroyed reaper pieces. The big red beam weapon-eye thing is sorrounded by broken panels or plates. Those have specular similar (if not identical) to the aforementioned speculars on the synthesis ending.

Sorry for the horrible photo, but i bought the xbox version of the game, so i couldn't take any decent screen:


So, to put it as simple as possible, everybody in the galaxy got mixed with the inner workings of the reaper... not good.
As i said, this is no proof of IT, but it shines a creepy light on Synthesis ending IMHO.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

fade2black.1337 wrote...

I don't think this can be considered a clue -let alone proof- for the IT, but i stumbled upon a peculiar reuse of assets by the devs.

In my first playthrough i chose synthesis, before the IT theory was formulated. I don't know why, but at that moment i didn't feel very confortable with the looks of the "synthesised" characters. I wondered where in the game did i already see the glowing circuitry like specular on the leaves and the characters, but i couldn't figure out where.

Wasn't until my second playthrough, on the cerberus Headquarters level in the room with the Human-Reaper Larvae, that i gave a closer look to the destroyed reaper pieces. The big red beam weapon-eye thing is sorrounded by broken panels or plates. Those have specular similar (if not identical) to the aforementioned speculars on the synthesis ending.

Sorry for the horrible photo, but i bought the xbox version of the game, so i couldn't take any decent screen:


So, to put it as simple as possible, everybody in the galaxy got mixed with the inner workings of the reaper... not good.
As i said, this is no proof of IT, but it shines a creepy light on Synthesis ending IMHO.

Nice, minor as you said, but nice none the less.

[Salient Archer]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Hm, now that you mention it, dance offs Are better left in the hands of the fans (I mean look at the backlash they got from SW Kinect because of that.) Anyone with some skill in asset extract/animating? First ups gotta be Broshep vs Femshep.

Maybe Kaidan vs Ash and they can fight for who Shepard choses to let live on virmire.

Sorry Ash, your robot and sidestep shuffle wasn't quite up to scratch, I'm gonna have to go with Kaidan.

Ash may not be much of a dancer but I'll leave Kaidan behind 9 times outta 10 <.<

The 10th time being the one time I wanna see his lines in me3 *working on it sorta*

Saved Ash every time since she was my LI, but I liked Kaidan, he seemed like a stand up guy, the sort of fellow you'd play a quiet game of cards with on a tuesday night, could be comfortable around and maybe share a drink. TBH, I wish I had a few more friends like that.

I'm a Liara fanboy forever [apparently I like my women blue, scaly and with folds of skin on their head] but I have to say I'm always torn between Ash and Kaidan when it comes to that choice, I really like them both.

They're not THAT scaley . And Liara's adorable/deadly anyway, not very many Asari you meet are. Hell, I hope sometime after the year 2100 we find a thawed out Mass Relay aimed striaght at the homeworld of those beautiful blue ladies. Even though I might be long dead by then a fanboy can hope, eh?

Haha, make that two fanboys that can dream. ... I told my wife the only reason I'd ever leave her would be for an Asari, she agreed to the terms ... so fingers crossed! 

[Arian Dynas]

Salient Archer wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Hm, now that you mention it, dance offs Are better left in the hands of the fans (I mean look at the backlash they got from SW Kinect because of that.) Anyone with some skill in asset extract/animating? First ups gotta be Broshep vs Femshep.

Maybe Kaidan vs Ash and they can fight for who Shepard choses to let live on virmire.

Sorry Ash, your robot and sidestep shuffle wasn't quite up to scratch, I'm gonna have to go with Kaidan.

Ash may not be much of a dancer but I'll leave Kaidan behind 9 times outta 10 <.<

The 10th time being the one time I wanna see his lines in me3 *working on it sorta*

Saved Ash every time since she was my LI, but I liked Kaidan, he seemed like a stand up guy, the sort of fellow you'd play a quiet game of cards with on a tuesday night, could be comfortable around and maybe share a drink. TBH, I wish I had a few more friends like that.

I'm a Liara fanboy forever [apparently I like my women blue, scaly and with folds of skin on their head] but I have to say I'm always torn between Ash and Kaidan when it comes to that choice, I really like them both.

I'll be honest, I like the drama.

Ok Shepard, you have to choose, the woman you love? A simple Gunnery Sergeant, whom it is in fact against regs to even be involved with at all? Or your closest living friend? A man whom has supported you since the literal beginning? An effective lieutenant and skilled biotic whom is far more useful to you than the simple grunt that Williams is? Oh but wait, now he just told you to leave him behind and go save Williams, you have permission, but wouldn't that be betraying him in the long run? But so would going against his wishes. Now she's telling you to just get the hell out and not endanger yourself, to just abandon them and let them be overwhelmed. Well you can't abandon them, it's the principle of the thing! But even Kirrahe told you there was no point in endangering yourself and the mission to do so...

Oops, now you just killed your best friend, who died in a conflagration of nueclear fire, so there's not even a body to bury, and you did it all to save the woman you're illegally boinking. Good job ****.