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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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It does except for delivering the crucial component, if it was all just a dream then what really happened? I don't think BW would be so callous as to just toss /that/ kind of cliffhanger at people at the last 15 minutes of the last game of Shepards story. There's likely something we just didn't pick up or are misinterpreting.

I'm not really one to jump whole hog for IT if it can't actually answer how the events resolve themselves. So shepard is in his head. I can handle that. But what's happening around him? The Reapers are basically massacre'ing the remaining military force of all life while he's laying on the ground in london losing his mind. It's capable of explaining why things are so confusingly off, but it's incapable of explaining what is actually happening.

While the reapers slaughtering all life is a grisly ending, it contradicts the "hope against the odds" theme that Shepard usually embodies. BW are great at storycrafting and I doubt that they'd just be willing to slap us all in the face that hard. My guess is it's got to be a middle ground of half in his head, half what really happens.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Brace yourselves...speculations are coming:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/216183581804986368:
"I have this strange feeling that you're all going to have good weekends. :)"


Wat.
If it turns out that he's just talking about another multiplayer challenge, I'll kill him.

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Hmm, I just looked it up. Rebellion was announced on a Thursday, but Resurgence was announced on a Friday, both released Tue/Wed of the following week.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Brace yourselves...speculations are coming:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/216183581804986368:
"I have this strange feeling that you're all going to have good weekends. :)"


Wat.
If it turns out that he's just talking about another multiplayer challenge, I'll kill him.


Or it's a Chris-style troll maneuver. :bandit:

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Well, he's been hinting at something for a while now. Remember the one that basically said "stop whining, if you knew what we're planning you'd all be happy"?

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playoff52 wrote...

It does except for delivering the crucial component, if it was all just a dream then what really happened? I don't think BW would be so callous as to just toss /that/ kind of cliffhanger at people at the last 15 minutes of the last game of Shepards story. There's likely something we just didn't pick up or are misinterpreting.

I'm not really one to jump whole hog for IT if it can't actually answer how the events resolve themselves. So shepard is in his head. I can handle that. But what's happening around him? The Reapers are basically massacre'ing the remaining military force of all life while he's laying on the ground in london losing his mind. It's capable of explaining why things are so confusingly off, but it's incapable of explaining what is actually happening.

While the reapers slaughtering all life is a grisly ending, it contradicts the "hope against the odds" theme that Shepard usually embodies. BW are great at storycrafting and I doubt that they'd just be willing to slap us all in the face that hard. My guess is it's got to be a middle ground of half in his head, half what really happens.


That is why we have EC. Under the IT EC is for getting Shepard back up and finishing teh fight, or bringing humanity to ruin if you ****ed up.

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playoff52 wrote...

It does except for delivering the crucial component, if it was all just a dream then what really happened? I don't think BW would be so callous as to just toss /that/ kind of cliffhanger at people at the last 15 minutes of the last game of Shepards story. There's likely something we just didn't pick up or are misinterpreting.

I'm not really one to jump whole hog for IT if it can't actually answer how the events resolve themselves. So shepard is in his head. I can handle that. But what's happening around him? The Reapers are basically massacre'ing the remaining military force of all life while he's laying on the ground in london losing his mind. It's capable of explaining why things are so confusingly off, but it's incapable of explaining what is actually happening.

While the reapers slaughtering all life is a grisly ending, it contradicts the "hope against the odds" theme that Shepard usually embodies. BW are great at storycrafting and I doubt that they'd just be willing to slap us all in the face that hard. My guess is it's got to be a middle ground of half in his head, half what really happens.


Well, I think that's where ITers and non-ITers tend to diverge. Most of us believe BW would absolutely "slap us all in the face that hard". For BW, their "artistic integrity" is likely all about conveying the process and emotion of indoctrination directly to the player, which they have apparently done a very good job of doing. Indoctrination is pretty upsetting, after all. ;)

Modifié par HellishFiend, 22 juin 2012 - 04:29 .


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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Well, he's been hinting at something for a while now. Remember the one that basically said "stop whining, if you knew what we're planning you'd all be happy"?


Fooor Tuchankaaa!

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Well, he's been hinting at something for a while now. Remember the one that basically said "stop whining, if you knew what we're planning you'd all be happy"?


Well that's just stupid, how can we know if they won't say? o.O

It's also rather arrogant to presume to know what would make me happy. Clearly their intended ending missed that mark, so they are already 0 for 1.

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Someone send Mike Gamble a link to this: http://youtu.be/4z6KsNGNbZs?t=52s

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Hah, good tweet from Mr. Gamble. Hope growing again :D

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HellishFiend wrote...

playoff52 wrote...

It does except for delivering the crucial component, if it was all just a dream then what really happened? I don't think BW would be so callous as to just toss /that/ kind of cliffhanger at people at the last 15 minutes of the last game of Shepards story. There's likely something we just didn't pick up or are misinterpreting.

I'm not really one to jump whole hog for IT if it can't actually answer how the events resolve themselves. So shepard is in his head. I can handle that. But what's happening around him? The Reapers are basically massacre'ing the remaining military force of all life while he's laying on the ground in london losing his mind. It's capable of explaining why things are so confusingly off, but it's incapable of explaining what is actually happening.

While the reapers slaughtering all life is a grisly ending, it contradicts the "hope against the odds" theme that Shepard usually embodies. BW are great at storycrafting and I doubt that they'd just be willing to slap us all in the face that hard. My guess is it's got to be a middle ground of half in his head, half what really happens.


Well, I think that's where ITers and non-ITers tend to diverge. Most of us believe BW would absolutely "slap us all in the face that hard". For BW, their "artistic integrity" is likely all about conveying the process and emotion of indoctrination directly to the player, which they have apparently done a very good job of doing. Indoctrination is pretty upsetting, after all. ;)


That's a fine point if they were intending to leave the series there. I doubt many would want to reinvest in the franchise if it ended like that though. Rule #1 of any good business, Don't ****** off your customers. if you make a bad product, no ones going to buy it.

There is a line between a good story told badly, and bad story told well. Right now we're teetering on the line of both.

Modifié par playoff52, 22 juin 2012 - 04:35 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

Brace yourselves...speculations are coming:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/216183581804986368:
"I have this strange feeling that you're all going to have good weekends. :)"



multiplayer DLC? could be but not really noteworthy, operation savage? no, gamble would have been direct with the statement, could it be? EC fits the description of promising good news, time window within parameters, but still too many variables, people would get excited (inhaaaaale) perhaps...too excited.

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 22 juin 2012 - 04:37 .


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This is the end of Mass Effect as we know it. Maybe they will make more games... but the EPIC story of Shepard ends here. IT is an awesome ending to that story.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Brace yourselves...speculations are coming:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/216183581804986368:
"I have this strange feeling that you're all going to have good weekends. :)"


Wat.
If it turns out that he's just talking about another multiplayer challenge, I'll kill him.


Or it's a Chris-style troll maneuver. :bandit:


If he mean's EC, or they aprove IT and we all have a great weekend or I don't know.

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Brace yourselves...speculations are coming:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/216183581804986368:
"I have this strange feeling that you're all going to have good weekends. :)"



multiplayer DLC? could be but not really noteworthy, operation savage? no, gamble would have been direct with the statement, could it be? EC fits the description of proomising good news, time window within parameters, but still too many variables, people would get excited (inhaaaaale) perhaps...too excited.


We are supposed to read that with Mordin's voice, right?

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Corik wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Brace yourselves...speculations are coming:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/216183581804986368:
"I have this strange feeling that you're all going to have good weekends. :)"



multiplayer DLC? could be but not really noteworthy, operation savage? no, gamble would have been direct with the statement, could it be? EC fits the description of proomising good news, time window within parameters, but still too many variables, people would get excited (inhaaaaale) perhaps...too excited.


We are supposed to read that with Mordin's voice, right?


Just thought the same thingPosted Image

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Corik wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Brace yourselves...speculations are coming:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/216183581804986368:
"I have this strange feeling that you're all going to have good weekends. :)"



multiplayer DLC? could be but not really noteworthy, operation savage? no, gamble would have been direct with the statement, could it be? EC fits the description of proomising good news, time window within parameters, but still too many variables, people would get excited (inhaaaaale) perhaps...too excited.


We are supposed to read that with Mordin's voice, right?


whatever gave you that idea?:whistle:

phaaa, all salarians sound the same to me....like they're trying to sell me something, i would try to listen if they were selling ryncol.

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masster blaster wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Brace yourselves...speculations are coming:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/216183581804986368:
"I have this strange feeling that you're all going to have good weekends. :)"


Wat.
If it turns out that he's just talking about another multiplayer challenge, I'll kill him.


Or it's a Chris-style troll maneuver. :bandit:


If he mean's EC, or they aprove IT and we all have a great weekend or I don't know.


Well, to be honest, I don't remember Mike Gamble tweeting trickery tweets.

There's also this:

twitter.com/GambleMike/status/215969301423865856
"Wow. I should log into the BSN more often.... Maybe soon."

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 22 juin 2012 - 04:41 .


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I think they should reward us for our hard work ;)
Perhaps a multiplayer pack that lets us use the Cain :D

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TSA_383 wrote...

I think they should reward us for our hard work ;)
Perhaps a multiplayer pack that lets us use the Cain :D

I want a gun that fires thresher maws. Posted Image

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TSA_383 wrote...

I think they should reward us for our hard work ;)
Perhaps a multiplayer pack that lets us use the Cain :D


The only reward worthy of us (of you, actually) is IT being true :P

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So does anyone else read posts in the voice of the poster's avatar? It makes it so much more fun...

Anyway, assuming IT is true, what really happened to the Illusive Man? I'm personally hoping for some redemption; I've always liked him, despite his shadyness.

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I'm gonna start reading my own posts in Kaidan's voice. Thanks xD

Modifié par Corik, 22 juin 2012 - 04:58 .


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Haha no problem. Actually I find that most of the time I read things in Garrus's voice, regardless of the avatar. Not sure why.