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Wow, I'm gone for 2 hours and now everybody is in EC excitement

green eyes for synthesis? That's....

....lame.. Like, really. Very lame.
Also, the picture with Hackett ordering Joker to leave?
Sorry to say it guys, maybe I'm too negative, but I feel like IT is in its last breath. It's still my headcanon, but.. at this point I think it's safe to say it's not EC canon.

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masster blaster wrote...

And really it only took one little info about EC and the Tread is alive again :)


Lets hit 1k all over again!!!!!

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This is it people; don't know why, but I find myself excited about Tuesday :S xD

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llbountyhunter wrote...

A_Pissed_Iguana wrote...

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thehehe this thread's gonna be hilarious come Tuesday


Wait and see.  Funny thing is, only anti-IT people are the ones who will look foolish because of their rampant hate and insults. 

Regardless of outcome, even if Bioware literally says 'IT is wrong' - they will still look foolish, not because of their beliefs or views but because of their actions.

agreed!! However, things are not looking good... "the extended cut is really more about taking the things that are there and making them shine even more, rather than trying to change and adapt what's there to reach out to a broader...audience that's looking for something that was never intended."-Mac Walters.


IT doesnt change anything though... it makes whats  already there shine...;)



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MaximizedAction wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

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I just had a thought - Gamble tweeted that we were going to have really great weekends, but the EC doesn't come out until Tuesday, and I wouldn't say that waiting around with breathless nervousness and anticipation is all that much fun. So what's going on this weekend? Are they going to tie the weekend challenge to the EC in some way?

Anybody have any thoughts on this?


They likely won't release an expansion pack secretly. But what they can do is maybe add something interesting for the waves, even though nothing's mentioned in the blog post.
But other than that, I think, considering how proud Mike Gamble seems to be about them finishing the EC, according to his tweets, it should be the expectations that will sweeten the weekend.

Or, that's my guess. :)

Yeah, you are probably right, however my weekend will in no way be sweetened by the anticipation. I would actually have.preferred to find out on Monday or even Tuesday, though I know that isn't really realistic.

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Haha.  No data?  No, just repeated statements by the developers that the aren't changing the endings. Oh, and Walters just confirming it plainly in the podcast once again.  That's actual data.  How many times must they say they aren't changing the endings before people realize... they're not changing the endings. 


Do you understand IT?   Because I'm coming to the conclusion you really don't.

So I recommend you go back to page #1 and read the links provided and watch the videos.  They will educate you. 

Enjoy!

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Jere85 wrote...

Sorry guys, i just got here, can someone link the stuff about EC coming this tuesday?
Cheers.



http://masseffect.bi...t/extended_cut/

There's also a youtube video, I don't have the link to that one.

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ZerebusPrime wrote...

I don't know about the rest of you, but I suspect there will be no rejoicing from me on Tuesday and possibly not on Wednesday, either.

Because 1.9 GB takes a LONG time for me to download.


Me too. As in several hours. :mellow:

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Capeo wrote...

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And I think you're jumping to conclusions yourself. So stop being a downer


Funny statement considering IT is based on jumping to conclusions.


So is a literal view. We just don't know what is in the EC. So stop jumping to conclusions. We don't have enough data that goes either way.


Haha.  No data?  No, just repeated statements by the developers that the aren't changing the endings. Oh, and Walters just confirming it plainly in the podcast once again.  That's actual data.  How many times must they say they aren't changing the endings before people realize... they're not changing the endings. 


IT doesn't change the endings. If you think it does, you fundamentally don't understand or comprehend IT.

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Oh, god its March all over again... still....only 4 days left...

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LT123 wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

I don't know about the rest of you, but I suspect there will be no rejoicing from me on Tuesday and possibly not on Wednesday, either.

Because 1.9 GB takes a LONG time for me to download.


Me too. As in several hours. :mellow:


Indeed.  1.9GB to 'clarify' the ending?  There's going to be some serious exposition regardless.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Wow, I'm gone for 2 hours and now everybody is in EC excitement

green eyes for synthesis? That's....

....lame.. Like, really. Very lame.
Also, the picture with Hackett ordering Joker to leave?
Sorry to say it guys, maybe I'm too negative, but I feel like IT is in its last breath. It's still my headcanon, but.. at this point I think it's safe to say it's not EC canon.


Or it's a glare and it's just thier eye's are brighter, and a maybe new geth modle.

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Andromidius wrote...

LT123 wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

I don't know about the rest of you, but I suspect there will be no rejoicing from me on Tuesday and possibly not on Wednesday, either.

Because 1.9 GB takes a LONG time for me to download.


Me too. As in several hours. :mellow:


Indeed.  1.9GB to 'clarify' the ending?  There's going to be some serious exposition regardless.


That's 20% of the game!

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Wow, I'm gone for 2 hours and now everybody is in EC excitement

green eyes for synthesis? That's....

....lame.. Like, really. Very lame.
Also, the picture with Hackett ordering Joker to leave?
Sorry to say it guys, maybe I'm too negative, but I feel like IT is in its last breath. It's still my headcanon, but.. at this point I think it's safe to say it's not EC canon.


Get your groove on soldier.
Except for the release date and size, we got absolutely no new information about the EC. So, nothing has really changed, and no one should feel in anyway confirmed or disproved before Tuesday.

In fact, the EC might bring no confirmation about IT, only better hints, maybe. Remember Arians theory...

We need Arian to push the morale a bit!

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Wow, I'm gone for 2 hours and now everybody is in EC excitement

green eyes for synthesis? That's....

....lame.. Like, really. Very lame.
Also, the picture with Hackett ordering Joker to leave?
Sorry to say it guys, maybe I'm too negative, but I feel like IT is in its last breath. It's still my headcanon, but.. at this point I think it's safe to say it's not EC canon.


Let's wait and see - I don't imagine Bioware would give away too much in poorly chosen screenshots at this late stage.

Context is everything. We'll see that on tuesday.

More interesting to me is the comment that you should play the ending multiple times for the full experience... That'll be an interesting one.

Modifié par TSA_383, 22 juin 2012 - 07:10 .


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masster blaster wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Wow, I'm gone for 2 hours and now everybody is in EC excitement

green eyes for synthesis? That's....

....lame.. Like, really. Very lame.
Also, the picture with Hackett ordering Joker to leave?
Sorry to say it guys, maybe I'm too negative, but I feel like IT is in its last breath. It's still my headcanon, but.. at this point I think it's safe to say it's not EC canon.


Or it's a glare and it's just thier eye's are brighter, and a maybe new geth modle.


I wish I had your optimism. I guess my faith isn't strong enough. :?
well, I predict that this thread will crash the servers on tuesday.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

Oh, god its March all over again... still....only 4 days left...


Ya and like I said again

Harby: PREPARE YOURSLEF"S FOR THE ARRiVAl"

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llbountyhunter wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

LT123 wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

I don't know about the rest of you, but I suspect there will be no rejoicing from me on Tuesday and possibly not on Wednesday, either.

Because 1.9 GB takes a LONG time for me to download.


Me too. As in several hours. :mellow:


Indeed.  1.9GB to 'clarify' the ending?  There's going to be some serious exposition regardless.


That's 20% of the game!


Yep, I even checked my folder to see how big it was.  Considering that includes character models, scenery, textures and all the combat programming...

How big were the previous DLC's?

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Wow, I'm gone for 2 hours and now everybody is in EC excitement

green eyes for synthesis? That's....

....lame.. Like, really. Very lame.
Also, the picture with Hackett ordering Joker to leave?
Sorry to say it guys, maybe I'm too negative, but I feel like IT is in its last breath. It's still my headcanon, but.. at this point I think it's safe to say it's not EC canon.


Hacket is ordering Joker to disengage. There is a huge leap between that and fleeing. Disengage can easily mean disengage from the Reaper forces above Earth to assit Shepard on the ground.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

Capeo wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

And I think you're jumping to conclusions yourself. So stop being a downer


Funny statement considering IT is based on jumping to conclusions.


So is a literal view. We just don't know what is in the EC. So stop jumping to conclusions. We don't have enough data that goes either way.


Haha.  No data?  No, just repeated statements by the developers that the aren't changing the endings. Oh, and Walters just confirming it plainly in the podcast once again.  That's actual data.  How many times must they say they aren't changing the endings before people realize... they're not changing the endings. 


IT doesn't change the endings. If you think it does, you fundamentally don't understand or comprehend IT.


Oh good God, this argument.  I've heard it a million times before.  I'm not arguing it again.  It's ridiculous.

I'm at work, got photoshop in front of me, downloaded the pic of the Quarian and Geth labeled as image from an epilogue, zoomed in: lo and behold the geth has a shining green eye.  That's an epilogue.  After the end.  Literal Synthesis as shown in the existing ending.  No IT.

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But hay guess if IT is TRUE then wee all come back here and celebrate and byne and Paxxton and anybody else can give a long speech and we go our separate ways until ME4 :)

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heh

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Andromidius wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

LT123 wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

I don't know about the rest of you, but I suspect there will be no rejoicing from me on Tuesday and possibly not on Wednesday, either.

Because 1.9 GB takes a LONG time for me to download.


Me too. As in several hours. :mellow:


Indeed.  1.9GB to 'clarify' the ending?  There's going to be some serious exposition regardless.


That's 20% of the game!


Yep, I even checked my folder to see how big it was.  Considering that includes character models, scenery, textures and all the combat programming...

How big were the previous DLC's?


Most of them were like half a gig or less...

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 22 juin 2012 - 07:13 .


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llbountyhunter wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

LT123 wrote...

ZerebusPrime wrote...

I don't know about the rest of you, but I suspect there will be no rejoicing from me on Tuesday and possibly not on Wednesday, either.

Because 1.9 GB takes a LONG time for me to download.


Me too. As in several hours. :mellow:


Indeed.  1.9GB to 'clarify' the ending?  There's going to be some serious exposition regardless.


That's 20% of the game!


Yep, I even checked my folder to see how big it was.  Considering that includes character models, scenery, textures and all the combat programming...

How big were the previous DLC's?


Most of them were like half a gig.....


Most of them didn't have to take into account 15k plotstates.

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Capeo wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Capeo wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

And I think you're jumping to conclusions yourself. So stop being a downer


Funny statement considering IT is based on jumping to conclusions.


So is a literal view. We just don't know what is in the EC. So stop jumping to conclusions. We don't have enough data that goes either way.


Haha.  No data?  No, just repeated statements by the developers that the aren't changing the endings. Oh, and Walters just confirming it plainly in the podcast once again.  That's actual data.  How many times must they say they aren't changing the endings before people realize... they're not changing the endings. 


IT doesn't change the endings. If you think it does, you fundamentally don't understand or comprehend IT.


Oh good God, this argument.  I've heard it a million times before.  I'm not arguing it again.  It's ridiculous.

I'm at work, got photoshop in front of me, downloaded the pic of the Quarian and Geth labeled as image from an epilogue, zoomed in: lo and behold the geth has a shining green eye.  That's an epilogue.  After the end.  Literal Synthesis as shown in the existing ending.  No IT.


You have no idea what that picture means in context of the EC. Stop pretending you do and stop being a condescending ass.