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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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llbountyhunter

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Capeo wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Capeo wrote...

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And I think you're jumping to conclusions yourself. So stop being a downer


Funny statement considering IT is based on jumping to conclusions.


So is a literal view. We just don't know what is in the EC. So stop jumping to conclusions. We don't have enough data that goes either way.


Haha.  No data?  No, just repeated statements by the developers that the aren't changing the endings. Oh, and Walters just confirming it plainly in the podcast once again.  That's actual data.  How many times must they say they aren't changing the endings before people realize... they're not changing the endings. 


IT doesn't change the endings. If you think it does, you fundamentally don't understand or comprehend IT.


Oh good God, this argument.  I've heard it a million times before.  I'm not arguing it again.  It's ridiculous.

I'm at work, got photoshop in front of me, downloaded the pic of the Quarian and Geth labeled as image from an epilogue, zoomed in: lo and behold the geth has a shining green eye.  That's an epilogue.  After the end.  Literal Synthesis as shown in the existing ending.  No IT.


? Lol

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TSA_383 wrote...

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Wow, I'm gone for 2 hours and now everybody is in EC excitement

green eyes for synthesis? That's....

....lame.. Like, really. Very lame.
Also, the picture with Hackett ordering Joker to leave?
Sorry to say it guys, maybe I'm too negative, but I feel like IT is in its last breath. It's still my headcanon, but.. at this point I think it's safe to say it's not EC canon.


Let's wait and see - I don't imagine Bioware would give away too much in poorly chosen screenshots at this late stage.

Context is everything. We'll see that on tuesday.

More interesting to me is the comment that you should play the ending multiple times for the full experience... That'll be an interesting one.


Agreed, these pictures show people posing 'being hard at work'. So these pictures show exactly what BW wants you to see. Drawing conclusion about them would be pointless.

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Capeo wrote...

Oh good God, this argument.  I've heard it a million times before.  I'm not arguing it again.  It's ridiculous.


Not arguing because you can't?  You don't even understand what you're arguing against!

Like I said, go educate yourself.  Find out what IT actually is before you come charging in to destroy us with your well crafted arguments.

Oh, and if you're at work then snap to it before your boss shows up.

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Yeah, IF IT proves true, it'll be a hell of a party. Otherwise, well, I guess this thread will die out, but at least we had a good time. Maybe they'll make it so ambiguous that IT can't be confirmed nor denied.

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I'm going to wait and see what EC entails.

I honestly won't get too upset over it though. I will continue to play and love the trilogy. As for whether or not I'll buy future ME games, that's up in the air but at least I can enjoy this one.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

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ZerebusPrime wrote...

I don't know about the rest of you, but I suspect there will be no rejoicing from me on Tuesday and possibly not on Wednesday, either.

Because 1.9 GB takes a LONG time for me to download.


Me too. As in several hours. :mellow:


Indeed.  1.9GB to 'clarify' the ending?  There's going to be some serious exposition regardless.


That's 20% of the game!


Yep, I even checked my folder to see how big it was.  Considering that includes character models, scenery, textures and all the combat programming...

How big were the previous DLC's?


Most of them were like half a gig.....


Most of them didn't have to take into account 15k plotstates.


Well the whole game does that in a mere 10gigs... 

The muliplayer maps have new content that werent in the game before, so makes them bigger than they could be.

Plus the fact that EC is 20% of the game.. thats a whole lot of stuff...

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Yeah, IF IT proves true, it'll be a hell of a party. Otherwise, well, I guess this thread will die out, but at least we had a good time. Maybe they'll make it so ambiguous that IT can't be confirmed nor denied.


I think for this thread to actually, truly die out, BW would have to come out and explicitly state that IT is wrong.

I don't really see that happen. ;)

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BatmanTurian wrote...

You have no idea what that picture means in context of the EC. Stop pretending you do and stop being a condescending ass.


Ah, so you asserting crap about IT with nothing to back it up isn't condescending but me reitering what the devs have said a million times is?  Got it.  I'm being respectful to you, just not your little fanfic.

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Does the Extended Cut change the endings?
The Extended Cut is an expansion of the original endings to Mass Effect 3. It does not fundamentally change the endings, but rather it expands on the meaning of the original endings, and reveals greater detail on the impact of player decisions.

Does this really has something hidden or is just me havind some hope?

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Earthborn_Shepard

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Yeah, IF IT proves true, it'll be a hell of a party. Otherwise, well, I guess this thread will die out, but at least we had a good time. Maybe they'll make it so ambiguous that IT can't be confirmed nor denied.


I think for this thread to actually, truly die out, BW would have to come out and explicitly state that IT is wrong.

I don't really see that happen. ;)


Well.. they could indirectly state that with the EC content. Unless you just say "oh these are all hallucinations" ;)

also I just read that Skyrim Dawnguard comes out Tuesday as well, oh god, I mean I have final exams in a few weeks, what am I doing with my life :o

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Yeah, IF IT proves true, it'll be a hell of a party. Otherwise, well, I guess this thread will die out, but at least we had a good time. Maybe they'll make it so ambiguous that IT can't be confirmed nor denied.


I think for this thread to actually, truly die out, BW would have to come out and explicitly state that IT is wrong.

I don't really see that happen. ;)


Actually this close to the deadline its surprising that they DIDNT say that outright...

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Capeo wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

You have no idea what that picture means in context of the EC. Stop pretending you do and stop being a condescending ass.


Ah, so you asserting crap about IT with nothing to back it up isn't condescending but me reitering what the devs have said a million times is?  Got it.  I'm being respectful to you, just not your little fanfic.


I am asserting nothing. I am saying everything is in limbo about the EC. We don't know what is in it yet. Stating one way or the other is foolish and illogical until we see the EC.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 22 juin 2012 - 07:21 .


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Capeo wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

You have no idea what that picture means in context of the EC. Stop pretending you do and stop being a condescending ass.


Ah, so you asserting crap about IT with nothing to back it up isn't condescending but me reitering what the devs have said a million times is?  Got it.  I'm being respectful to you, just not your little fanfic.


You need to look up what 'respectful' means as well?  Oh dear.

As for saying nothing to back up IT claims...  Well that's hilarious.  Good job, I give you 6/10 for effort!

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AchesOfDoom wrote...

Does the Extended Cut change the endings?
The Extended Cut is an expansion of the original endings to Mass Effect 3. It does not fundamentally change the endings, but rather it expands on the meaning of the original endings, and reveals greater detail on the impact of player decisions.

Does this really has something hidden or is just me havind some hope?


That's what IT does... expand on the endings without changing them...

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Whatever happens, I'm happy to have stumbled on this thread. It has helped me overcome my depression regarding the endings of ME3. I myself have not really contributed anything to theory and have pretty much been a lurker, but I enjoyed reading the speculations from you all every single day covering the past 3 months or so. Maybe with these 5 new images on the EC site we'll find yet more to speculate on during the next 4 days.

Watching that interview gave me a bit of a stomach ache too but then again they're basically telling us the same thing we've heard from the announcement of the EC, so here's hoping...

If the EC doesn't cut it, well, then there's always Koobismo's comics to look forward to.

Modifié par Silent Rogue, 22 juin 2012 - 07:30 .


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thanks for this thread guys one of the few positive ones on here, so i guess this is *puts on sunglasses* the end run YEAHHHH

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Yeah, IF IT proves true, it'll be a hell of a party. Otherwise, well, I guess this thread will die out, but at least we had a good time. Maybe they'll make it so ambiguous that IT can't be confirmed nor denied.


I think for this thread to actually, truly die out, BW would have to come out and explicitly state that IT is wrong.

I don't really see that happen. ;)


Well.. they could indirectly state that with the EC content. Unless you just say "oh these are all hallucinations" ;)

also I just read that Skyrim Dawnguard comes out Tuesday as well, oh god, I mean I have final exams in a few weeks, what am I doing with my life :o

I have to turn in my thesis on Wednesday. We're all spending our time in strange ways. :D

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 22 juin 2012 - 07:23 .


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AchesOfDoom wrote...

Does the Extended Cut change the endings?
The Extended Cut is an expansion of the original endings to Mass Effect 3. It does not fundamentally change the endings, but rather it expands on the meaning of the original endings, and reveals greater detail on the impact of player decisions.

Does this really has something hidden or is just me havind some hope?


"expands on the meaning of the... endings" " reveals greater detail on the impact of player decisions"

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llbountyhunter wrote...

AchesOfDoom wrote...

Does the Extended Cut change the endings?
The Extended Cut is an expansion of the original endings to Mass Effect 3. It does not fundamentally change the endings, but rather it expands on the meaning of the original endings, and reveals greater detail on the impact of player decisions.

Does this really has something hidden or is just me havind some hope?


That's what IT does... expand on the endings without changing them...


Yep yep.

Not to mention a sequel hook can still be an ending.  What else could the Breath Scene be if IT is false?  We already tore the literalist explaination to pieces on multiple occasions.

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Hay we need to look for twitter feeds Facebook, and what ever they post about EC, IT or anything in regards to Mass effect 3. We also need to look for hints in everything Bioware has about anything about EC IT or anything in regards about ME3

and report it back here. okay.

Modifié par masster blaster, 22 juin 2012 - 07:24 .


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I'm guessing everyone saw this right?

"Any discussion of Story related content, including the Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut DLC content, must be done in the appropriate Storyline Discussion forum. Threads discussing it outside of Story Discussion forums will be closed or moved to the correct forum. Repeated attempts to discuss Story content outside the Storyline Discussion forums will result in banning."

...Odd

Anyway I don't care if IT is real or not as long as we all get a satisfying ending, ideally one where Shepard survives and reutines with their love interest, and MAYBE the Geth and EDI don't die just cuz you wanted to destroy the Reapers.  this threat brought us all together to talk about things that didn't make any sense to us at the time and, not to mention we were the ONLY ones doing what BioWare wanted us to do rather than get angry over the ending, and apparently demand that everyone else get angry as well.
and to all IT haters, remember that...

Modifié par Arashi08, 22 juin 2012 - 07:26 .


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masster blaster wrote...

Hay we need to look for twitter feeds Facebook, and what ever they post about EC, IT or anything in regards to Mass effect 3. We also need to look for hints in everything Bioware has about anything about EC IT or anything in regards about ME3

and report it back here. okay.


So, pretty much what we have been doing for the past couple of months, ey? :D

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Tuesday.

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Arashi08 wrote...

I'm guessing everyone saw this right?
"Any discussion of Story related content, including the Mass Effect 3 Extended Cut DLC content, must be done in the appropriate Storyline Discussion forum. Threads discussing it outside of Story Discussion forums will be closed or moved to the correct forum. Repeated attempts to discuss Story content outside the Storyline Discussion forums will result in banning."
...Odd
Anyway I don't care if IT is real or not as long as we all get a satisfying ending, ideally one where Shepard survives and reutines with their love interest, and MAYBE the Geth and EDI don't die just cuz you wanted to destroy the Reapers.  this threat brought us all together to talk about things that didn't make any sense to us at the time and, not to mention we were the ONLY ones doing what BioWare wanted us to do rather than get angry over the ending, and apparently demand that everyone else get angry as well.
and to all IT haters, remember that...


Amen
*fist bump*

Whether we're right or wrong, we did what Bioware wanted us to do. We didn't act like spoiled children having a tantrum.

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why did my hard drive have to die this week, all my saves gone:pinched::crying: come Tuesday Im going information black out.