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[Arian Dynas]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


Know what I find ironic? Tali (and to an extent, Liara), and Ashley map pretty well to Aeire and Jaheria from Baldur's Gate 2, I chose Aeire in BG2, and apparently that's the "wrong" choice according to popular opinion, and yet when I choose Ash in Mass Effect, apparently I'm "wrong" again.

It's times like this make me feel bad that I haven't gotten around to playing Baldur's Gate 1 or 2. I swear I'm gonna! Just need some time. As for romance choices, whatever you choose is the right choice for the most part. You just need to be careful in ME2, consequences inbound in 3 if you choose anyoen at all .

http://www.gog.com/e...e_original_saga 

You're welcome. If you want the whole effect play BG1 first, if you are a wimp and the thought of tough gameplay causes you concern, play BG2 first. But be forewarned, SAVE OFTEN, save seperately, this game does not limit your saves, so take advantage of this fact. This game does NOT hold your hand, like at all. And low level AD&D combat is a nightmare. None of this new **** **** with cantrips and multiple spells and maximum hit dice on first level, in AD&D, your hit points at first level were easily eliminated with one lucky dagger blow (seriously 4 hit points max. No bonus hit points.) and you got one spell at first level. One, you shot your load and you were done for the day.

Oh, and be forewarned, no you cannot romance anyone in BG 1 (without mods anyway) and you can't romance Imoen (without mods, yes there are alot of mods out there) for reasons that may become clear later.

RavenEyry wrote...

No love for Miranda? I find her uniform very official. Makes me stand at attention.

 

Romanced Miranda in ME2, I found her sexy.

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

*snip*


I choose Aeire as well in BG2. 

In general across the Bioware games I have come to realize I like my women exotic with a dash of innocent/naivity [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

 

I've found that while yes, being young and (despite my cynicism's protestations otherwise) innocent myself (and wanting someone who completes me, someone whom can keep my spirits up) I usually like the bubbly or strong sort, hence why I liked Aeire, I had the strength to help her get past the loss of her wings, she had the joy and innocence to keep the darkness out of my soul, Jaheria was still too grim, a relationship between the two of us would have been unhappy.

Ashely was strong and firmly defined, yet still caring and welcoming, just hiding it under a gruff exterior, hence she wouldn't stand for my usual propensity for bull****, yet could still be sensitive. Miranda was yet another bird with broken wings, less literal this time, someone I could help, and someone who cared far more than she let on, it's part of why Tali was tempting as well, since she was bubbly and innocent, yet she didn't have that broken quality, she didn't need me, Miranda, for all her fierce exterior did.

Also, I have realized, as I type this that Bioware did something amazing, I spoke of all of these women like I knew them personally and saw them as individual human beings. Bioware doesn't create characters, they create people. That is an amazing skill.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 18 mai 2012 - 10:31 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...


Know what I find ironic? Tali (and to an extent, Liara), and Ashley map pretty well to Aeire and Jaheria from Baldur's Gate 2, I chose Aeire in BG2, and apparently that's the "wrong" choice according to popular opinion, and yet when I choose Ash in Mass Effect, apparently I'm "wrong" again.

It's times like this make me feel bad that I haven't gotten around to playing Baldur's Gate 1 or 2. I swear I'm gonna! Just need some time. As for romance choices, whatever you choose is the right choice for the most part. You just need to be careful in ME2, consequences inbound in 3 if you choose anyoen at all .

Dantexr3 wrote...

Stop talking about Liara! Tali is better, ok? SHE IS THE BEST! [running away crying]

Hey Tali's great and all, amazing even, but... I mean c'mon it's Liara! We've been romancing her since before Tali was an option, gotta keep loyalty in mind when we make another choice of course.

I'm always, ALWAYS faithful to Liara, but to be honest Tali almost had me but loyalty to my beautiful blue always pulls me through [even if she did seem a bit cold at the start of ME2]

Can't blame her, you did spend two years dead . Even though she helped get your body back there was no gurantee she'd ever see Shepard alive again. That sort of loss changes people, and I'd argue Shepard's part in her life would change her as well even if he/she didn't die. And her adorable side is still there, just have to dig for it through Shadow Broker. More apparent in 3 thankfully.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

@Arian dynas

Thanks for the link. I swear I'll play it eventually! And Jade Empire.

[MegumiAzusa]

fade2black.1337 wrote...

I don't think this can be considered a clue -let alone proof- for the IT, but i stumbled upon a peculiar reuse of assets by the devs.

In my first playthrough i chose synthesis, before the IT theory was formulated. I don't know why, but at that moment i didn't feel very confortable with the looks of the "synthesised" characters. I wondered where in the game did i already see the glowing circuitry like specular on the leaves and the characters, but i couldn't figure out where.

Wasn't until my second playthrough, on the cerberus Headquarters level in the room with the Human-Reaper Larvae, that i gave a closer look to the destroyed reaper pieces. The big red beam weapon-eye thing is sorrounded by broken panels or plates. Those have specular similar (if not identical) to the aforementioned speculars on the synthesis ending.

Sorry for the horrible photo, but i bought the xbox version of the game, so i couldn't take any decent screen:


So, to put it as simple as possible, everybody in the galaxy got mixed with the inner workings of the reaper... not good.
As i said, this is no proof of IT, but it shines a creepy light on Synthesis ending IMHO.

It's the same texture used for TIM's implants.

[Sajuro]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I know this has probably been discussed but two pieces of evidence are biggest for me in indoc theory.
1) it is shown repeatedly that getting hit with a Reaper laser will murder you in fire and very painful ways (Tuchunka, Rannoch, run towards that beam) yet we are expected to believe that Shepard gets hit and only his armor is fracked up, and in the walk you see soldiers in puddles of blood, something that Reaper lasers don't leave behind.

2)In the breathe ending, Shepard is in full (relatively) undamaged N7 armor instead of post beam armor scraps.

Not to mention, the Rubble in the breath ending, comparison links directly below this post in my signature .

I don't mention that because I don't want to get into another discussion of "Have you been to every part of the citadel????" while I doubt Shepard was blown to a 3 minute armor repair shop.

[Salient Archer]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I know this has probably been discussed but two pieces of evidence are biggest for me in indoc theory.
1) it is shown repeatedly that getting hit with a Reaper laser will murder you in fire and very painful ways (Tuchunka, Rannoch, run towards that beam) yet we are expected to believe that Shepard gets hit and only his armor is fracked up, and in the walk you see soldiers in puddles of blood, something that Reaper lasers don't leave behind.

2)In the breathe ending, Shepard is in full (relatively) undamaged N7 armor instead of post beam armor scraps.

Not to mention, the Rubble in the breath ending, comparison links directly below this post in my signature .

I agree with all of this right up until the Armor ... here's why though:





To me his N7 armor in the breath scene looks exactly like it does after he "gets hit by harbinger's beam" but my IT explination for it is that the condition of his armor is just another real world element he's carried into his hallucination.

[Arian Dynas]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

*snip*
Know what I find ironic? Tali (and to an extent, Liara), and Ashley map pretty well to Aeire and Jaheria from Baldur's Gate 2, I chose Aeire in BG2, and apparently that's the "wrong" choice according to popular opinion, and yet when I choose Ash in Mass Effect, apparently I'm "wrong" again.

I choose Aeire as well in BG2.

In general across the Bioware games I have come to realize I like my women exotic with a dash of innocent/naivity

So... Morrigan, Merrill, Liara, Tali, Liara?

Dead on, except I romanced Liari in ME1 and decided to saty faithful in ME2, so have yet to pursue a romance with Tali...maybe once we get a release date on EC I will boot up ME1 and do a new run through of the entire series.

Morrigan for the romance triangle, and her own broken bird quality/strength, stuck with Leliana for the bubbly that she had, despite all her darkness, DA2 I need to play again, all the way through this time and actually put more thought into it, definetly not one of Bioware's better games, still better than most, but it's harder to get involved in.

Salient Archer wrote...
Haha, you know you want it! - Seriously though... I don't think I have anything constructive to add, I think your script [+ these new amendments] is already covering everything I'd personally like to see. I'd personally enjoy the chance to see some new gameplay but that might be hard to implement considering Shepard appears to be quite banged up. 

I personally wouldn’t want to be in control of another squad member either, as I don’t want my last experience with Shepard’s story to be seen through another characters eyes ... except from maybe that of his/her love interest, but I feel it lessens the impact of the story overall. [i’m one of those people that suddenly felt disconnected when we suddenly took control of Joker]

The only way I’ve thought of implementing more gameplay is once Shepard is healed up from his recovery he/she goes on cleanup duty as shown in the Take Back Earth trailer but once again I feel this would weaken your current endings impact. 

Hmm, well one fellow did just bring up a rather interesting point, what if Shepard ISN'T as banged up as we thought? Some medi-gel, charge into the Conduit with Anderson in tow as per the leaked script and do it that way? But then I'd prolly need to toss the whole thing out, so nah. If that's the case, I'll let the EC do it.

[MegumiAzusa]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
Interesting enough, regardless of Shadow Broker "rekindled romance" Liara, she doesn't hold a grudge against you for romancing someone after, and even so wants to continue your relationship from ME1. Just be careufl who you do romance if anyone in ME2, Tali is probably the most forgiving if you go back to Liara, Jack I don't know (she's calmer in 3 but I dont think that calm), Miranda supposedly might die during the Sancutary exchange if you break up with her regardless of a Loyalty Shield but that's yet to be confirmed I think...sounds awful too.

Sidenote: Main reason I chose Merrill in DA2 now that I think about it, probably because she reminds a lot of ME1 Liara personality-wise.

You have to edit your savegame for the game to take that part into account. It doesn't import right.

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Can't blame her, you did spend two years dead . Even though she helped get your body back there was no gurantee she'd ever see Shepard alive again. That sort of loss changes people, and I'd argue Shepard's part in her life would change her as well even if he/she didn't die. And her adorable side is still there, just have to dig for it through Shadow Broker. More apparent in 3 thankfully.

In the comic Miranda did good to destroy all hopes Liara had for Shep returning.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...
Interesting enough, regardless of Shadow Broker "rekindled romance" Liara, she doesn't hold a grudge against you for romancing someone after, and even so wants to continue your relationship from ME1. Just be careufl who you do romance if anyone in ME2, Tali is probably the most forgiving if you go back to Liara, Jack I don't know (she's calmer in 3 but I dont think that calm), Miranda supposedly might die during the Sancutary exchange if you break up with her regardless of a Loyalty Shield but that's yet to be confirmed I think...sounds awful too.

Sidenote: Main reason I chose Merrill in DA2 now that I think about it, probably because she reminds a lot of ME1 Liara personality-wise.

You have to edit your savegame for the game to take that part into account. It doesn't import right.

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Can't blame her, you did spend two years dead . Even though she helped get your body back there was no gurantee she'd ever see Shepard alive again. That sort of loss changes people, and I'd argue Shepard's part in her life would change her as well even if he/she didn't die. And her adorable side is still there, just have to dig for it through Shadow Broker. More apparent in 3 thankfully.

In the comic Miranda did good to destroy all hopes Liara had for Shep returning.

Heard about that bug, didn't think much of it. Found it odd Liara didn't mention our..."rekindling" in Shadow Broker during the first conversation but regardless, still chose to continue a relationship with her from there. Still found it odd you need to re-affirm that action at least twice in other conversations.

[Salient Archer]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

*snip*

Can't blame her, you did spend two years dead . Even though she helped get your body back there was no gurantee she'd ever see Shepard alive again. That sort of loss changes people, and I'd argue Shepard's part in her life would change her as well even if he/she didn't die. And her adorable side is still there, just have to dig for it through Shadow Broker. More apparent in 3 thankfully.

I was so thankful for the LotSB DLC and felt that anyone who didn't romance Liara in ME1 were actually missing
out on one of the best parts of the DLC. Those scenes where Shepard is trying to open her up again were written so damn well, for one they reminded me instantly why I decided to stay faithful despite all those temptations aboard the SR2.

[Salient Archer]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Hmm, well one fellow did just bring up a rather interesting point, what if Shepard ISN'T as banged up as we thought? Some medi-gel, charge into the Conduit with Anderson in tow as per the leaked script and do it that way? But then I'd prolly need to toss the whole thing out, so nah. If that's the case, I'll let the EC do it.

I guess that would work, except I still feel that you've written the best fan-fic sign-off for Shep one could ask for. and to be honest I'd prefer some well thought out meaningful cinematic/conversations opposed to more gameplay, just for the sake of more gameplay.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

*snip*

Can't blame her, you did spend two years dead . Even though she helped get your body back there was no gurantee she'd ever see Shepard alive again. That sort of loss changes people, and I'd argue Shepard's part in her life would change her as well even if he/she didn't die. And her adorable side is still there, just have to dig for it through Shadow Broker. More apparent in 3 thankfully.

I was so thankful for the LotSB DLC and felt that anyone who didn't romance Liara in ME1 were actually missing
out on one of the best parts of the DLC. Those scenes where Shepard is trying to open her up again were written so damn well, for one they reminded me instantly why I decided to stay faithful despite all those temptations aboard the SR2.

Indeed, the Liara romance scenes from LotSB are probably among the best Bioware have made. Truly incredible and really a great boon for those fo us who romanced her in the first game and choose to remain faithful.

[estebanus]

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I know this has probably been discussed but two pieces of evidence are biggest for me in indoc theory.
1) it is shown repeatedly that getting hit with a Reaper laser will murder you in fire and very painful ways (Tuchunka, Rannoch, run towards that beam) yet we are expected to believe that Shepard gets hit and only his armor is fracked up, and in the walk you see soldiers in puddles of blood, something that Reaper lasers don't leave behind.

2)In the breathe ending, Shepard is in full (relatively) undamaged N7 armor instead of post beam armor scraps.

Not to mention, the Rubble in the breath ending, comparison links directly below this post in my signature .

I agree with all of this right up until the Armor ... here's why though:





To me his N7 armor in the breath scene looks exactly like it does after he "gets hit by harbinger's beam" but my IT explination for it is that the condition of his armor is just another real world element he's carried into his hallucination.

How did you get Shepard's broken N7 armor for normal wear?

[PlotholeProds]

I think that the ending is intended to be a hallucination, but the possibility is very real that Bioware was rushed and made some lazy mistakes. This possibility seems unlikely to me though, mainly because all the extra details like the indoctrinated eyes Shepard has if he chooses Synthesis or Control wouldn't have been placed in randomly. Bioware is too smart for that. My hypothesis is that the were going to make us pay for the real ending, however since that would be publicised suicide, they will hopefully have been lying to us and we can have the huge epic Harbinger fight we all want, with a PROPER and SATISFYING ending.

[estebanus]

Please... Stay on-topic. If you don't remember, we got burned last time we went too far, and talking about LI's is the fastest way to get this thread closed again.

[RavenEyry]

I agree that the scene in LotSB is probably the best ME romance scene. They're so obviously in love when several other romance scenes (including Liara in 1) come across more like booty calls.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...
Haha, you know you want it! - Seriously though... I don't think I have anything constructive to add, I think your script [+ these new amendments] is already covering everything I'd personally like to see. I'd personally enjoy the chance to see some new gameplay but that might be hard to implement considering Shepard appears to be quite banged up. 

I personally wouldn’t want to be in control of another squad member either, as I don’t want my last experience with Shepard’s story to be seen through another characters eyes ... except from maybe that of his/her love interest, but I feel it lessens the impact of the story overall. [i’m one of those people that suddenly felt disconnected when we suddenly took control of Joker]

The only way I’ve thought of implementing more gameplay is once Shepard is healed up from his recovery he/she goes on cleanup duty as shown in the Take Back Earth trailer but once again I feel this would weaken your current endings impact. 

Hmm, well one fellow did just bring up a rather interesting point, what if Shepard ISN'T as banged up as we thought? Some medi-gel, charge into the Conduit with Anderson in tow as per the leaked script and do it that way? But then I'd prolly need to toss the whole thing out, so nah. If that's the case, I'll let the EC do it.

Assuming IT is true and Shepard wakes up on Earth, the battle still raging, I personally would love the chance to take over as a squadmate/LI  or Anderson for some portion of the ending. Let's say your romanced Liara (since we've been talking about it the last 10 posts or so) and you had over 5k EMS. Imagine taking control of Liara, she's battle-scared like Shepard and in her default armored lab coat, purple blood seeping out scratches and surface wounds. You have your pistol and some biotics, limping around the Beam area looking for Shepard and fighting off the occaisional husk or two. After wondering around for a few minutes Liara collapses, almost no strength left, switch to cutscene, Liara lets a few tears slide down when *Breath*
"Shepard??"
That EC and post-ending DLC needs to come out soon ><.

[Salient Archer]

estebanus wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

I know this has probably been discussed but two pieces of evidence are biggest for me in indoc theory.
1) it is shown repeatedly that getting hit with a Reaper laser will murder you in fire and very painful ways (Tuchunka, Rannoch, run towards that beam) yet we are expected to believe that Shepard gets hit and only his armor is fracked up, and in the walk you see soldiers in puddles of blood, something that Reaper lasers don't leave behind.

2)In the breathe ending, Shepard is in full (relatively) undamaged N7 armor instead of post beam armor scraps.

Not to mention, the Rubble in the breath ending, comparison links directly below this post in my signature .

I agree with all of this right up until the Armor ... here's why though:





To me his N7 armor in the breath scene looks exactly like it does after he "gets hit by harbinger's beam" but my IT explination for it is that the condition of his armor is just another real world element he's carried into his hallucination.

How did you get Shepard's broken N7 armor for normal wear?

same way synthesis works! 

oh and this:

http://www.mediafire...a341y340fmkrtqr

1) Coaleced.bin to "Mass Effect 3\\BIOGame\\CookedPCConsole"
2) Load your savegame
3) Press F12 
4) Check your armor and weapons.

Modifié par Salient Archer, 18 mai 2012 - 10:46 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

I know I'm gonna miss page 100, but time for this one to go to bed.
*salute*
Keep on truckin' guys, we're almost there.

[Arian Dynas]

It's like the IDT is young all over again!

[Salient Archer]

Almost time to usher in the new century everybody.

Modifié par Salient Archer, 18 mai 2012 - 10:54 .

[paxxton]

Is this 100?

[Salient Archer]

Not yet it isn't

Modifié par Salient Archer, 18 mai 2012 - 10:54 .

[paxxton]

Nope

Modifié par paxxton, 18 mai 2012 - 10:56 .

[paxxton]

Not 100, again!

Modifié par paxxton, 18 mai 2012 - 10:56 .