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Big Bad wrote...

OK here is my EC wishlist:

1) Shepard doesn't have to die in every ending, and if she dies she doesn't die alone.
2) Harbinger actually plays a meaningful role.
3) The ending does not contradict the major themes of the series and isn't embarassingly nonsensical.
4) Shep gets to reunite with her friends in at least one ending

That's what I can think of at the moment. For me, #3 is the most important, and it's the one I am least confident about getting.


Bioware said the Red ending is the only one where Shepard lives and if you don;t beleive me then look it up.

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Oh look the EC was leaked...

ferretbrain.com/articles/article-853

(Couldn't resist)

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Big Bad wrote...

OK here is my EC wishlist:

1) Shepard doesn't have to die in every ending, and if she dies she doesn't die alone.
2) Harbinger actually plays a meaningful role.
3) The ending does not contradict the major themes of the series and isn't embarassingly nonsensical.
4) Shep gets to reunite with her friends in at least one ending

That's what I can think of at the moment. For me, #3 is the most important, and it's the one I am least confident about getting.



That's not a bad list...I am trying to keep myself from doing something simlar...trying to keep myself completely open to what "they" will present (other than IT of course).

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Just wanted to pop in and say even if IT isn't true, this thread has given me some freaking amazing stuff to read over and think about for the past three months.  You guys put a lot of time and effort into this and it shows. :)

Also found this interesting.  Apologies if someone already linked it.
twitter.com/masseffect/status/216234807070437376

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Okay, now that we finally have a release date, I have to say I’m a bit nervous about what’s coming. I so desperately want the EC to be good, IT or not. The fact it’s nearly 2GB in size is promising, since that’s bigger than any ME2 DLC I believe, but still there is this niggling feeling inside me that this is just going to make the whole ending situation worse...


I know how you feel,

However, I personally feel that the EC isn't going to be the "ending"  I feel like that is coming up and the EC is going to clarify what we have but still leave things open.  It's just this strange feeling I have atm.  I know BW said they weren't working on post-ending DLC (or someone said that at least)  but I feel like EC is something we are getting mid-way. (as i recall, before ME3 was announced, BioWare posted that teaser pic of Coates but denied it had anything to do with ME3...then went and revealed it at VGA)  I mean there are still the supposed Earth maps coming in MP so maybe they will have something for us then too.  idk if it will involve IT of course, but something keeps telling me that the EC isn't the end of the line, something else is out there...waiting...

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Gleeper wrote...

Just wanted to pop in and say even if IT isn't true, this thread has given me some freaking amazing stuff to read over and think about for the past three months.  You guys put a lot of time and effort into this and it shows. :)

Also found this interesting.  Apologies if someone already linked it.
twitter.com/masseffect/status/216234807070437376


That's a pretty serious clue, if you ask me.

Edit: Also, anyone else having flashbacks to Arian's ending script?

Modifié par Dwailing, 22 juin 2012 - 08:04 .


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LazyTechGuy wrote...

Well in a new sticky, Chris Priestly said "If you don't play MP, you have to find other ways raise to raise your EMS before attempting to retake Earth, including a comprehensive single player play through"


I actually think that is theoretically possible.

I had almost 8000m EMS by the end with full MP. 4000 is the minum to get a perfect ending so maybe if you went for everything that gave maximum EMS you could get the best ending without MP.

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Damn. Good thing I'm starting completely over.

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Reposting for the new page...

D.Sharrah wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Naruana wrote...

Or combine with synthetic life via space magic...


still think we should have turned that crucible thingy into a battering ram.
the reapers wouldn't expect that hehe
:devil:


still better than space magic


Or a giant Reaper magnet that we could then send into a sun of our choosing...



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Dwailing wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

OK here is my EC wishlist:

1) Shepard doesn't have to die in every ending, and if she dies she doesn't die alone.
2) Harbinger actually plays a meaningful role.
3) The ending does not contradict the major themes of the series and isn't embarassingly nonsensical.
4) Shep gets to reunite with her friends in at least one ending

That's what I can think of at the moment. For me, #3 is the most important, and it's the one I am least confident about getting.


Well, based on what Jessica said, I think you'll at least get 1 and 4 as long as you chose Destroy.  As for 2 and 3, here's hoping.  I still want a boss fight with Harbinger where I get to use the sync laser to direct every single ship in Sword to fire on his position.  That would be the most epic thing in the entire series.

Though Jessica's tweet regarding this was vague, I'm hoping that the destroy option doesn't kill EDI and the Geth, at least not if you have high enough EMS,  she did mention this inconsistency in a tweet awhile ago, but again, it was more about speculation and it didn't actually confirm anything.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

Reposting for the new page...

D.Sharrah wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

Naruana wrote...

Or combine with synthetic life via space magic...


still think we should have turned that crucible thingy into a battering ram.
the reapers wouldn't expect that hehe
:devil:


still better than space magic


Or a giant Reaper magnet that we could then send into a sun of our choosing...


That would be epic.

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I'm just glad this whole thing's almost over.

It'll be nice to see what the BSN is like outside of this hostile, insulting mode, where even merely discussing an idea gets one labeled psychologically weak or a cultist. Yikes.

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Arashi08 wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Okay, now that we finally have a release date, I have to say I’m a bit nervous about what’s coming. I so desperately want the EC to be good, IT or not. The fact it’s nearly 2GB in size is promising, since that’s bigger than any ME2 DLC I believe, but still there is this niggling feeling inside me that this is just going to make the whole ending situation worse...


I know how you feel,

However, I personally feel that the EC isn't going to be the "ending"  I feel like that is coming up and the EC is going to clarify what we have but still leave things open.  It's just this strange feeling I have atm.  I know BW said they weren't working on post-ending DLC (or someone said that at least)  but I feel like EC is something we are getting mid-way. (as i recall, before ME3 was announced, BioWare posted that teaser pic of Coates but denied it had anything to do with ME3...then went and revealed it at VGA)  I mean there are still the supposed Earth maps coming in MP so maybe they will have something for us then too.  idk if it will involve IT of course, but something keeps telling me that the EC isn't the end of the line, something else is out there...waiting...


This is exactly how i feel right now. I think Arian mentioned there being more to the ending too with his theory on the marketing of ME3 and mp tying into sp, but yeah. I get the feeling something fishy's going on and it's not just because of the fish in my lap. <_<

Especially if the Earth MP pack is true.

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IT is true regardless of Bioware's intention...
The worst that can happen is Bioware simply doesn't understand their own artwork...

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I was always under the impression that, before the EC was announced, there was DLC planned.

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Ravel1992 wrote...

 Ah, finally.

The Extended Cut requires roughly 1.9 gigabytes of storage.

  
The biggest patch i have ever seen :).

And epic video for epic news:wizard:.


I love that video!

I've really enjoyed this thread, guys. It's been great fun watching you all dig through the game to find all this evidence. ^_^


That's a better trailer for ME3 (like a movie trailer) than the stupid little girl one was. It was cool, but not as awesome and cinematic as this.

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Gleeper wrote...

Just wanted to pop in and say even if IT isn't true, this thread has given me some freaking amazing stuff to read over and think about for the past three months.  You guys put a lot of time and effort into this and it shows. :)

Also found this interesting.  Apologies if someone already linked it.
twitter.com/masseffect/status/216234807070437376


Twitter seems to have been broken.  I can't access it!

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

Well in a new sticky, Chris Priestly said "If you don't play MP, you have to find other ways raise to raise your EMS before attempting to retake Earth, including a comprehensive single player play through"


I actually think that is theoretically possible.

I had almost 8000m EMS by the end with full MP. 4000 is the minum to get a perfect ending so maybe if you went for everything that gave maximum EMS you could get the best ending without MP.



I don't think that it is...unless they tweaked some of the asset numbers with an update...I haven't played much MP at all and I think that my highest TMS was like 7200...luckily I have access to the datapad app and boost my GR, so I can get the breath scene...

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dreamgazer wrote...

I'm just glad this whole thing's almost over.

It'll be nice to see what the BSN is like outside of this hostile, insulting mode, where even merely discussing an idea gets one labeled psychologically weak or a cultist. Yikes.


You should have seen us during the glory days of the Deception Backlash.  We were truly united.  Well, there were a FEW people who didn't hate Deception, but their numbers were around a dozen, probably less.  And the best part, all our hatred was directed at the book, not at each other, so we actually all got along!  I tell you, those were the days.

Modifié par Dwailing, 22 juin 2012 - 08:09 .


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Naruana wrote...

I was always under the impression that, before the EC was announced, there was DLC planned.


Yeah, there's still a giant neon sign above Aria's head in Purgatory that reads: "HEY SHEPARD, HELP ME RETAKE OMEGA."

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I found this funny because yesterday I ended ME2. I was replaying all Mass Effect games to get my "perfect, paragon, no romance" canon playthrough. I'm currently on the citadel, just brought poor Kaidan from Mars... I guess I will end ME3 in time for EC :D

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Andromidius wrote...

Gleeper wrote...

Just wanted to pop in and say even if IT isn't true, this thread has given me some freaking amazing stuff to read over and think about for the past three months.  You guys put a lot of time and effort into this and it shows. :)

Also found this interesting.  Apologies if someone already linked it.
twitter.com/masseffect/status/216234807070437376


Twitter seems to have been broken.  I can't access it!


It just says that most of the EC starts before the beam run...

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llbountyhunter wrote...

Oh look the EC was leaked...

ferretbrain.com/articles/article-853

(Couldn't resist)


That's some good evidence if you did not play ME^_^.

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dreamgazer wrote...

I'm just glad this whole thing's almost over.

It'll be nice to see what the BSN is like outside of this hostile, insulting mode, where even merely discussing an idea gets one labeled psychologically weak or a cultist. Yikes.


Yeah, I come from a nicer place than the rest of the BSN and the IT thread has been very similar. It'll be nice to go back and not have to argue points with people who equate me with ancient aliens guy because I have a different interpretation of a story. I mean, doing that is all kinds of stupid anyway. Lit. professors would fail students who wrote papers saying they believed interpreting stories was just conspiracy theory bunk.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Gleeper wrote...

Just wanted to pop in and say even if IT isn't true, this thread has given me some freaking amazing stuff to read over and think about for the past three months.  You guys put a lot of time and effort into this and it shows. :)

Also found this interesting.  Apologies if someone already linked it.
twitter.com/masseffect/status/216234807070437376


Twitter seems to have been broken.  I can't access it!


It just says that most of the EC starts before the beam run...


Hmm.  Just accessed it, and it says 'beacon' instead of 'conduit'.  Interesting.

Wonder what that could mean.