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[CARL_DF90]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Yeah, the negativity I've spewed is definitely the dying cries of my love for the series. Is it still a good series? For 99.5% of the series, it really darn is. But it leaves us on such a horrible note that... ugh.

I wanted to see every announcement thread and get this feeling of glee when I read them. I enjoyed that. I liked counting down the days to the new DLCs, not to mention ME3. I liked waiting for the books to arrive in my mail box. Everything was so full of utter, stupid love and it was amazing. Now we've got Homeworlds #1 out already, soon #2, and I've not read a single page. Haven't picked it up yet either. Don't feel that itch to. I wish I did but I didn't. I bought tons of shirts and stuff, action figures... I feel no need to add to them.

I don't want this feeling. I want to love cause loving blindly was absolutely fantastic. That's why I will hope for the EC, no matter how much I may feel like saving the ending through expansion is impossible. If the EC can get my love back, or at least a part of it, that's a huge win. I -want- to care! I wanna buy **** without thinking twice and smile when I unbox them, damnit.

Seconded my friend.

[CARL_DF90]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

CmndrFisher wrote...

I feel like I should hug ya and pat your back and say "there, there, this bad feeling will end someday..." ...then discreetly look away and imagine raising my fist and shouting.."see what you have done, Bioware...for shame"...then pat your backa again and say hussshhhhh!

Some paragon interrupt hugs would be nice! 

I hear that.

[SwitchN7]

I am just sad I love this gaming business and i love Bioware.I think at the moment they are the best Gaming and future entertainment company in the world(Maybe even better than Acti/Blizzy?)It's so stupid that all of this was so blown out of proportion over a what could have been avoided ending(s) fiasco.I hope the founders will bring back balance to the force:) because i don't want to stop caring! I wanna care more not less.The ball is in their court.Fix it.

Modifié par SwitchN7, 17 mai 2012 - 09:43 .

[Eain]

SwitchN7 wrote...

I am just sad I love this gaming business and i love Bioware.I think at the moment they are the best Gaming and future entertainment company in the world(Maybe even better than Acti/Blizzy?)It's so stupid that all of this was so blown out of proportion over a what could have been avoided ending(s) fiasco.I hope the founders will bring back balance to the force:) because i don't want to stop caring! I wanna care more not less.The ball is in their court.Fix it.

Almost everything is better than ActiBlizz.

[Amberion]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Ajx- wrote...

@grey nayr

Last 5 minutes didn't ruin the previous games. I still think ME2 was better. It just, as the comic points out, makes them irrelevant. I have yet to go back to ME2 or ME3 campaign since beating 3. It may have ruined some of the replayability of the previous titles tho.

It didn't ruin Mass Effect 3 either. You claim that Bioware ruined the ending when it's been revealed that the entire game was an ending. Everything Bioware claimed about the series conclusion was meant to apply to the entire game, not the last five minutes.

I cured the genophage and gave Wrex a chance to reform his people.

I made peace between the Quarians and the Geth and returned the formers to their homeworld.

I pounded Cerberus into the ground.

I completed my romance.

I learned the truth about the Reapers and made the decision to put them down and get out alive(if EMS is over 4000, only Reapers are hurt by the crucible, meaning EDI and the Geth are alright. Confirmed by Jessica Merizan and will more than likely be in Extended Cut.)

The Normandy's fate is interesting to wonder about. There were definitely oddities that imply its fate is not what we expected.(Normandy was already experiencing fires and systems failures while running, a weird hole in the blast of energy opens up behind the Normandy before it passes through, the Normandy is always relatively intact even with the ending that incinerates everything the energy touches.) Its a mystery to unravel that will be answered later.

My ending lasted 30 hours and was everything I was told it would be.

And none of this matters because

The Krogan are sitting on a radioactive dustpile with no ships to get to another planet, and no relays with which to find one even if they had ships.

The Quarian fleet(and their liveships) are in orbit around earth with a sizeable majority of their people. There is insufficient HE3, or storage space for said HE3, on the migrant fleet to make the journey back to Rannoch, a trek crossing approximately 75% of the galaxy(And it's not a straight line, they have to skirt the center of the galaxy). They're looking at, at best, hundreds of years in deep space to make the trek home, at worst, running out of fuel in said deep space and dying out there.

So yay you killed a bunch of indoctrinated people. *cheers*.

You completed a romance which is sundered abruptly when you die. Your crewmates are stranded on a virgin planet somewhere and you have little or no chance of ever seeing them again, even in the exceedingly unlikely scenario that you live.

There is no actual indication that EDI or the Geth survived. The Catalyst says they die. Tweets from someone in Bioware speculating on their own headcanon does not count.

[crazyrabbits]

Amberion wrote...
And none of this matters because

The Krogan are sitting on a radioactive dustpile with no ships to get to another planet, and no relays with which to find one even if they had ships.

The Quarian fleet(and their liveships) are in orbit around earth with a sizeable majority of their people. There is insufficient HE3, or storage space for said HE3, on the migrant fleet to make the journey back to Rannoch, a trek crossing approximately 75% of the galaxy(And it's not a straight line, they have to skirt the center of the galaxy). They're looking at, at best, hundreds of years in deep space to make the trek home, at worst, running out of fuel in said deep space and dying out there.

So yay you killed a bunch of indoctrinated people. *cheers*.

You completed a romance which is sundered abruptly when you die. Your crewmates are stranded on a virgin planet somewhere and you have little or no chance of ever seeing them again, even in the exceedingly unlikely scenario that you live.

There is no actual indication that EDI or the Geth survived. The Catalyst says they die. Tweets from someone in Bioware speculating on their own headcanon does not count.

All of this is true. I fail to see how I'm supposed to look at the ending (that is, the game ending, not the misguided notion that the entire game was an ending) as anything but a complete torching of the franchise.

By the laws set out by this universe, the galaxy (save for the Asari, maybe, and that's said to be a needle in a haystack) cannot rebuild the Mass Relays because they don't know how they work, meaning any travel within the next century is essentially crippled. The concept of the "ME universe" is dead in the short-term.

We sent a ton of fleets to Earth, fired tons of ordinance right in the direction of the planet's surface, have a number of races who can't even eat our food stuck in one place, and the only viable option for transit back to their home planet is a comparatively sluggish transit method that has no assurances (seeing how Fuel Depots are only in system clusters).

At best, Bioware handwaves the Mass Relay issue and pretends that the galaxy magically fixes them up, and at worst, the galaxy is crippled, rendering any sense of development the characters had absolutely pointless.

The galaxy is either left crippled, or turned into half-synthetic beings against their will. Javik isn't going to find the spirits of his former unit and put them down for good. James probably won't be doing much "N7'ing" now that he's stuck on Earth. Tali isn't getting back to Rannoch in her lifetime. Liara isn't going to rebuild Thessia.

[Repearized Miranda]

@ Amberion:

We don't know if this is what has happened - nor do I think the EC will confirm this! Fans are already mad due to speculations. I doubt they wanna make it more fervent.

I'd say something here, but I may possibly spoil something, so no; however, the general consensus being that the Catalyst is making no sense, should give people a clue as to what really going on here,

Modifié par Repearized Miranda, 17 mai 2012 - 11:56 .

[DaJe]

TK EL wrote...

CARL_DF90 wrote...

The general vibe I'm getting is not only the jumping to conclusions about the EC, but a general loss of trust of faith that I described earlier.

Its hardly jumping to conclusions when they have already stated that they are not actually changing anything, just explaining and extending what is alread there. 

It's the first time I actually hope they are lying. Otherwise the ME universe is dead to me, just like Dragon Age.

[crazyrabbits]

Repearized Miranda wrote...

^ We don't know if this is what has happened - nor do I think the EC will confirm this! Fans are already mad due to speculations. I doubt they wanna make it more fervent.

I'd say something here, but I may possibly spoil something, so no; however, the general consensus being that the Catalyst is making no sense, should give people a clue as to what really going on here,

Whether it's inferred or not is beside the point - it's the only logical assumption we can make, given the circumstances. Unless I actually see on-screen that the galaxy is fine, no amount of tweeting or fanwanking is going to change the fact that the galaxy is essentially screwed. The problem with "word of God" is that it often only exists to quickly patch up holes the writer forgot about. If it's not in the narrative (or, to some extent, the expanded universe), it's not canon.

There's also the problem with the Catalyst, which has been discussed to death. The player really has no reason to trust this thing, who introduces an new conflict (synthetics vs. organics) and resolves it in 14 lines of dialogue. Whatever I pick is beside the point - the narrative is so bogged down in questions and unanswered problems that it collapses in on itself, and the viewer has no reason to care anymore about what's going on.

[Noelemahc]

There's also the problem with the Catalyst, which has been discussed to death. The player really has no reason to trust this thing, who introduces an new conflict (synthetics vs. organics) and resolves it in 14 lines of dialogue. Whatever I pick is beside the point - the narrative is so bogged down in questions and unanswered problems that it collapses in on itself, and the viewer has no reason to care anymore about what's going on.

Yeah, we've had oodles of threads on the subject and it turned out that a lot of people genuinely believe that it has no reason to lie to us and that the bizarre activation methods for the Crucible aren't contrived attempts at getting a woozy Shepard to kill herself in a convenient way. I keep being amazed by such people =)

Unless I actually see on-screen that the galaxy is fine, no amount of tweeting or fanwanking is going to change the fact that the galaxy is essentially screwed.

I hear ya. The reigning opinion is that the Stargazer scene was SUPPOSED to cover that, but all it conveys instead is, as a.m.p. eloquently outlined in one of her analysis threads, that out there, somewhere, lives a boy and his grandfather that has heard in a hand-me-down legend about a warrior from outer space, which both the child and the grandfather have a very very vague idea about, signifying that even though our efforts spared organic life, Shepard is at best a fairytale, at worst, condemned the galaxy to not having viable interstellar travel for at LEAST the next 10K years. Not the brightest of endings, if you ask me.

Modifié par Noelemahc, 17 mai 2012 - 01:45 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

I really wonder whether or not the EC can reverse the feeling that people like the OP have. It may come too late for many. They move on and think twice before buying another BW game.

[feliciano2040]

crazyrabbits wrote...

Amberion wrote...
And none of this matters because

The Krogan are sitting on a radioactive dustpile with no ships to get to another planet, and no relays with which to find one even if they had ships.

The Quarian fleet(and their liveships) are in orbit around earth with a sizeable majority of their people. There is insufficient HE3, or storage space for said HE3, on the migrant fleet to make the journey back to Rannoch, a trek crossing approximately 75% of the galaxy(And it's not a straight line, they have to skirt the center of the galaxy). They're looking at, at best, hundreds of years in deep space to make the trek home, at worst, running out of fuel in said deep space and dying out there.

So yay you killed a bunch of indoctrinated people. *cheers*.

You completed a romance which is sundered abruptly when you die. Your crewmates are stranded on a virgin planet somewhere and you have little or no chance of ever seeing them again, even in the exceedingly unlikely scenario that you live.

There is no actual indication that EDI or the Geth survived. The Catalyst says they die. Tweets from someone in Bioware speculating on their own headcanon does not count.

All of this is true. I fail to see how I'm supposed to look at the ending (that is, the game ending, not the misguided notion that the entire game was an ending) as anything but a complete torching of the franchise.

By the laws set out by this universe, the galaxy (save for the Asari, maybe, and that's said to be a needle in a haystack) cannot rebuild the Mass Relays because they don't know how they work, meaning any travel within the next century is essentially crippled. The concept of the "ME universe" is dead in the short-term.

We sent a ton of fleets to Earth, fired tons of ordinance right in the direction of the planet's surface, have a number of races who can't even eat our food stuck in one place, and the only viable option for transit back to their home planet is a comparatively sluggish transit method that has no assurances (seeing how Fuel Depots are only in system clusters).

At best, Bioware handwaves the Mass Relay issue and pretends that the galaxy magically fixes them up, and at worst, the galaxy is crippled, rendering any sense of development the characters had absolutely pointless.

The galaxy is either left crippled, or turned into half-synthetic beings against their will. Javik isn't going to find the spirits of his former unit and put them down for good. James probably won't be doing much "N7'ing" now that he's stuck on Earth. Tali isn't getting back to Rannoch in her lifetime. Liara isn't going to rebuild Thessia.

Next thing, this person will say "No, I DIDN´T want a happy ending!"

Even though his problem is that he didn't get it.

[voteDC]

-Skorpious- wrote...

The EC is going to make or break Mass Effect for me.

This is for me as well.

I loved the first Mass Effect and have hundreds of hours across many Shepards. There were problems with the game but it rose above them.

Mass Effect 2 did disappoint me a little. The wonderful narrative drive of the first game was missing and DLC-like episodic missions replaced it, fortunately these 'episodes' turned out to be fairly well written for the most part with Tali's loyalty mission being my favourite part of the whole trilogy.

With Mass Effect 3 however I do find it hard to feel anything more than "meh! is that it?" The game simply doesn't raise a sense of passion in me either way, for love or hate. I've managed one play through and just can't muster the interest for another.

The face import bug right at the beginning didn't help, but with very rare exception, I never felt that there was a feeling of care and that there was a "that'll do" mentality about the game.

Someone posted earlier in the thread a truth that the final act can save or ruin something. For me the ending of Mass Effect 3 has negatively coloured the whole franchise.

After all what is the point in replaying the trilogy as a shining paragon or a ruthless renegade when I know I am going to have the exact same dialogue and same three choices to make at the end.

Modifié par voteDC, 17 mai 2012 - 03:13 .

[ognick23]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Ajx- wrote...

@grey nayr

Last 5 minutes didn't ruin the previous games. I still think ME2 was better. It just, as the comic points out, makes them irrelevant. I have yet to go back to ME2 or ME3 campaign since beating 3. It may have ruined some of the replayability of the previous titles tho.

It didn't ruin Mass Effect 3 either. You claim that Bioware ruined the ending when it's been revealed that the entire game was an ending. Everything Bioware claimed about the series conclusion was meant to apply to the entire game, not the last five minutes.

I cured the genophage and gave Wrex a chance to reform his people.

I made peace between the Quarians and the Geth and returned the formers to their homeworld.

I pounded Cerberus into the ground.

I completed my romance.

I learned the truth about the Reapers and made the decision to put them down and get out alive(if EMS is over 4000, only Reapers are hurt by the crucible, meaning EDI and the Geth are alright. Confirmed by Jessica Merizan and will more than likely be in Extended Cut.)

The Normandy's fate is interesting to wonder about. There were definitely oddities that imply its fate is not what we expected.(Normandy was already experiencing fires and systems failures while running, a weird hole in the blast of energy opens up behind the Normandy before it passes through, the Normandy is always relatively intact even with the ending that incinerates everything the energy touches.) Its a mystery to unravel that will be answered later.

My ending lasted 30 hours and was everything I was told it would be.

+1 trillion, i wish i could copy and paste this to every thread like this one. I dont know (and really dont care) about you guys but i definitly got my moneys worth and the Extended Cut will just be icing on the cake

[ognick23]

Amberion wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Ajx- wrote...

@grey nayr

Last 5 minutes didn't ruin the previous games. I still think ME2 was better. It just, as the comic points out, makes them irrelevant. I have yet to go back to ME2 or ME3 campaign since beating 3. It may have ruined some of the replayability of the previous titles tho.

It didn't ruin Mass Effect 3 either. You claim that Bioware ruined the ending when it's been revealed that the entire game was an ending. Everything Bioware claimed about the series conclusion was meant to apply to the entire game, not the last five minutes.

I cured the genophage and gave Wrex a chance to reform his people.

I made peace between the Quarians and the Geth and returned the formers to their homeworld.

I pounded Cerberus into the ground.

I completed my romance.

I learned the truth about the Reapers and made the decision to put them down and get out alive(if EMS is over 4000, only Reapers are hurt by the crucible, meaning EDI and the Geth are alright. Confirmed by Jessica Merizan and will more than likely be in Extended Cut.)

The Normandy's fate is interesting to wonder about. There were definitely oddities that imply its fate is not what we expected.(Normandy was already experiencing fires and systems failures while running, a weird hole in the blast of energy opens up behind the Normandy before it passes through, the Normandy is always relatively intact even with the ending that incinerates everything the energy touches.) Its a mystery to unravel that will be answered later.

My ending lasted 30 hours and was everything I was told it would be.

And none of this matters because

The Krogan are sitting on a radioactive dustpile with no ships to get to another planet, and no relays with which to find one even if they had ships.

The Quarian fleet(and their liveships) are in orbit around earth with a sizeable majority of their people. There is insufficient HE3, or storage space for said HE3, on the migrant fleet to make the journey back to Rannoch, a trek crossing approximately 75% of the galaxy(And it's not a straight line, they have to skirt the center of the galaxy). They're looking at, at best, hundreds of years in deep space to make the trek home, at worst, running out of fuel in said deep space and dying out there.

So yay you killed a bunch of indoctrinated people. *cheers*.

You completed a romance which is sundered abruptly when you die. Your crewmates are stranded on a virgin planet somewhere and you have little or no chance of ever seeing them again, even in the exceedingly unlikely scenario that you live.

There is no actual indication that EDI or the Geth survived. The Catalyst says they die. Tweets from someone in Bioware speculating on their own headcanon does not count.

Even though i think some of the stuff u said came from ur own interpretation of the ending but nobody said it was a happy ending. The guy said he got his 30 hours and the ending he expected not that it was all sunshines and rainbows, everything u just typed no matter how sad u made it out to be is still an ending

Modifié par ognick23, 17 mai 2012 - 04:02 .

[sg1fan75]

Sadly I agree with OP.

[Salsa1]

Bioware - An Absence of creativity!

[Mylia Stenetch]

wastelander75 wrote...
Hype. Yes. Developers always hype a game. Some live up to it, others don't. But hype should not be the go-to excuse for making statements prior to release that are flat out false. In other words hype does not excuse a developer from point blank lying to the public. This goes for any developer out there, not just BioWare.

I never said it was an okay practice to do on this. I am just saying this is the world we live in now. I walk down the street and I see crap of half-truths and whole lies in every advertisement. Hell my company does it all the time to try and bring people in. This is nothing new, also in other threads were I have talked about this I am against it. Don't make assumptions on people if they do not fully gel with you.

I'm sure THEY are proud of the game. But being enjoyed by the masses? Hardly. Otherwise WE wouldn't be seeing things like Retake Mass Effect 3 and Hold The Line, cupcake and M&M protests, a near 90% revile for the ending, etc etc ad infinitum from an "enjoyed by the masses" player base. If that was the case, WE wouldn't even be having this discussion as it stands.

Mine point was never about the masses I am not sure why you are bringing this up on me since I have not said anything about this. I am saying Bioware does have pride in their game it took them several years to build this, a lot of emotion hours and lost time with family to see it done you would be proud if you are tied into it. I brought up humilty cause that is what they are showing, people are not pleased and they showed the world humility on making the EC. That is what was said nothing else, not about HTL, cupcakes, ragers, threats, spamming trolling. Just saying Bioware takes no pride in their work is a lie.

With that said, I appreciate that you like the game as is. And you're free to express your opinion, just as the OP and any other individual here is allowed to do. You may not agree with it, but respect it all the same (and no, I'm not saying that you've been disrespectful in any way).

I however tend to agree that the ending has had a very negative impact on not just the ME franchise, but on BioWare's reputation as a whole. This isn't the first time a game recently released under their banner has ruffled a few feathers. (coughcoughDragonAgeIIcoughcough). It just wasn't to the extent that ME3 has had.

I never said that I like the game as is, you are assuming that and putting words in my mouth. I have expressed my opinion in different topics, but this gist of it is coming here again. I think as a whole the game was "good", it was nothing exceptional and there are more issues than just the ending. While some points are supurb Rannoch and Genophage, the rest was trite. To me the enitre game was a sending off, a full thirty hour the end. Still this follows the rule me and my friend have about Bioware, they can make good games and good lore, they just cannot end them. 

With that in mind I am not pro or anti anything. I try to be a neutral party in this and would classify myself a pro-me. I am enough of a cynist and I do not need more to stoke the flames. Also I cannot comment on DA2 since I never played it, since DA1 just felt like a NWN rip-off/reskin since they lost the rights of it. Still I hold firm that no company is above another in most stances. I try and treat everything as individual aspects the only exception are sequels which should follow the rooting done in other games.

Modifié par Mylia Stenetch, 17 mai 2012 - 04:24 .

[Mylia Stenetch]

DaJe wrote...
Game developers don't have to lie to sell their product. The more honest a developer the better their reputation. Sure making some things sound more fancy than they are is normal but outright saying the opposite of what ends up in the game is not acceptable.

They are proud that the franchise gets so much recognition but ignore that a lot of that recognition is negative with ME3. They should have ended the franchise the way it deserved and be proud about the actual quality of the whole story.

That quote about honesty can be said about every job in the world. The problem with that is most times people do not want to hear the truth so the build a base for a lie then develope and spin it to make you belive fall for hype and trust them. A fine example of this is just high ranking officals in companies and politicians.

As I said in the last post thier pride comes from working on this series for several years taking time out of thier lives, their families' lives also their heart and sould into it. You should take pride in what you do or it will turn out worse than you can ever imagine ME3 is not an example of that, it is they lost sight of the forest through the trees. 

For them ignoring the negative, that is marketing I am seeing ignoring it, that is their job to sell a product. WIth the announcement of EC they showed humility and told us in a very round about way they made a mistake and are fixing it. If you are on twitter that is their personal accounts and has no ties to Bioware/EA except for Jessica Meranzian. For the forums, I would rather them be working on getting EC to correct issues and complaints and DLC which will help expand the game than chat with us.

[Beerfish]

I tend to agree with the op's general thought on this. Having an ending with a personal sacrifice by the player can work if done in a way that makes them think they are making a true difference elsewhere.

If they had shown a series of flashes of my companions in battle being overwhelmed and perhaps a last longer one of the love interest looking at a shep holo image or something and then running to fight the reapers then I would be much more apt to feel better leaping into a light stream or killing the reapers or what not. The good byes were too far in advance of the last decision. We'll see what they come up with for their dlc, they might be able to salvage something on that front.

My 1st choice is to have the sappy happy ending walking off into the sunset type of thing as much as others hate that idea.

Second choice is a sacrifice that feels like I'm accomplishing something for the people I grew to know in the story rather than just giving up.

[RiouHotaru]

If the ending to a video game invokes THAT much apathy in you, then maybe you weren't that invested.

I've played through all three games, made a character and dragged it through ME1, then 2, and finally 3.

And I felt the journey was ultimately a fullfilling and satisfying one. I'm waiting on the EC to come out to see how it changes things, but ultimately I feel that the time, energy, and emotion I invested into the trilogy has been paid back to me in spades.

In almost no other game have I been so invested in what happened to the characters, in almost no other game have I ever felt so connected to the NPCs, and in no other game do I have almost nearly as many nerdy and hardcore fans who are also dear friends of mine as this one.

I'm quite thankful for everything I've gotten out of the series, ending and all.

[Irrelevantgamer]

Honestly ME3 as a whole kind of disappointed me not just the ending. Ive played through ME3 about 3 times so far the 1st time i beat it on the 2nd day of release so it was a rushed play through and i was too excited to notice any of the "bad" parts of the game except the ending which left me cold for a week.
Then i thought the ending was my fault so i played through a 2nd time got even more sad then decided to play a 3rd time to just enjoy the main story and forget the ending but i notice every little downside now. (thanks to smudboy).

[Kyda]

RiouHotaru wrote...

If the ending to a video game invokes THAT much apathy in you, then maybe you weren't that invested.

I've played through all three games, made a character and dragged it through ME1, then 2, and finally 3.

And I felt the journey was ultimately a fullfilling and satisfying one. I'm waiting on the EC to come out to see how it changes things, but ultimately I feel that the time, energy, and emotion I invested into the trilogy has been paid back to me in spades.

In almost no other game have I been so invested in what happened to the characters, in almost no other game have I ever felt so connected to the NPCs, and in no other game do I have almost nearly as many nerdy and hardcore fans who are also dear friends of mine as this one.

I'm quite thankful for everything I've gotten out of the series, ending and all.

So not knowing what happened to many of them is not an issue to you? 

[napushenko]

Kyda wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

If the ending to a video game invokes THAT much apathy in you, then maybe you weren't that invested.

I've played through all three games, made a character and dragged it through ME1, then 2, and finally 3.

And I felt the journey was ultimately a fullfilling and satisfying one. I'm waiting on the EC to come out to see how it changes things, but ultimately I feel that the time, energy, and emotion I invested into the trilogy has been paid back to me in spades.

In almost no other game have I been so invested in what happened to the characters, in almost no other game have I ever felt so connected to the NPCs, and in no other game do I have almost nearly as many nerdy and hardcore fans who are also dear friends of mine as this one.

I'm quite thankful for everything I've gotten out of the series, ending and all.

So not knowing what happened to many of them is not an issue to you? 

Do you know what happened to characters after ending in every other game you play ? 
Besides, i dont think bioware would left it just like that if they dont have some kind of expansion in plan. You cant make an expansion if the letters say they lived happily everafter. 

[napushenko]

Irrelevantgamer wrote...

Honestly ME3 as a whole kind of disappointed me not just the ending. Ive played through ME3 about 3 times so far the 1st time i beat it on the 2nd day of release so it was a rushed play through and i was too excited to notice any of the "bad" parts of the game except the ending which left me cold for a week.
Then i thought the ending was my fault so i played through a 2nd time got even more sad then decided to play a 3rd time to just enjoy the main story and forget the ending but i notice every little downside now. (thanks to smudboy).

next thing you know youl ratebomb it and wouldnt even know why