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[Mykel54]

Oddly enough, my problem now is not so much with the ME3 ending, which i have already got over it and i no longer care (just like the OP said). My problem is with the direction that ME3 went: multiplayer, linear plot, autodialogue, etc.

The other ME games i could replay because there were cool moments and a interesting plot, for the most part. In ME3, the moment my shepard arrives at Mars and TIM is revealed as villain no matter what you did on ME2. Worse is when the crucible is revealed as a prothean weapon of mass destruction that will kill the reapers. To me, the crucible is like a dumb ball, and every time it touches the plot, the plot becomes dumb too. I can´t take the game seriously at that point and i lose the will to keep playing.

I shudder to think of what may come next fo the ME franchise, i really don´t like the direction it is going. The only thing i would be interested is a prequel that happened between the first contact war and mass effect 1, with other characters and forgetting about the reapers, just about the galaxy and the different species. However even a game like that would follow the ME3 format of dumbing down the plot, i fear the idea of ME as a true RPG game is pretty much dead now.

[feliciano2040]

Wimbini wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

ME3 is epic. 

No.

Yes it is.

DEAL WITH IT  !

[S Seraff]

Mykel54 wrote...

To me, the crucible is like a dumb ball, and every time it touches the plot, the plot becomes dumb too. 

Funny
I was really hoping they would avoid the Ultimate Weapon plot device - the cool and interesting thing about the Reapers is that they are so much more powerful than the opposition; it's the search for the Uncoventional Victory that should have governed the story... and there should have been more than one way to achieve it, all equally creative. 

I also have trouble with the Crucible because it had to have existed in some silent pocket dimension the Reapers just couldnt detect, since one little ping from the Normandy's sensors and they come flocking from all directions. it pops me out of the game whenever I think about it. Plus other blackbox statements like "the Reapers have brought the Citadel to the Earth system." How? Why exactly? 

Dumb ball

Modifié par S Seraff, 18 mai 2012 - 08:33 .

[gothicshark]

Sad truth I was a rabid fan. Now I think I'll get rabid for.... Dam no good sci-fantasy to get behind, screw it Diablo 3.

[Squallypo]

feliciano2040 wrote...

Wimbini wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

ME3 is epic. 

No.

Yes it is.

DEAL WITH IT  !

no YOU deal with it  

[napushenko]

Mykel54 wrote...

Oddly enough, my problem now is not so much with the ME3 ending, which i have already got over it and i no longer care (just like the OP said). My problem is with the direction that ME3 went: multiplayer, linear plot, autodialogue, etc.

The other ME games i could replay because there were cool moments and a interesting plot, for the most part. In ME3, the moment my shepard arrives at Mars and TIM is revealed as villain no matter what you did on ME2. Worse is when the crucible is revealed as a prothean weapon of mass destruction that will kill the reapers. To me, the crucible is like a dumb ball, and every time it touches the plot, the plot becomes dumb too. I can´t take the game seriously at that point and i lose the will to keep playing.

I shudder to think of what may come next fo the ME franchise, i really don´t like the direction it is going. The only thing i would be interested is a prequel that happened between the first contact war and mass effect 1, with other characters and forgetting about the reapers, just about the galaxy and the different species. However even a game like that would follow the ME3 format of dumbing down the plot, i fear the idea of ME as a true RPG game is pretty much dead now.

Oh ****, did you really expect bioware would tailor suit their game just for you ? 
TIM IS REVEALED AS VILLAIN NO MATTER WHAT YOU DID ?! 
So, if your magnificence was all buddy - buddy with him they now have to make complete new 40 hours just that you could be pleased. which you wouldnt anyway, because whats more fun then whining, is it ? 
Are things like that what yo people mean when you say your choices dont matter ?  

I shudder when i see post like this. 

And deux ex machina wasnt deux ex machina at all. In case you dont remember even they dont know what it does but they are so desperate they dont have any choice. And it what it does is bring up starchild creator of reapers litle friggin god who .. well, i dont know what the fck he does. in fact, deus ex machina is opposite because it screwed every single human being on the planet merging them with synthetics or destroying everything. whichj. sht. i dont care. i have 120 hours minus 10 minutes of pure fun to replay again and again till they throw out that ending  and bring in something that resembles sanity at least in a single way.  

Modifié par napushenko, 19 mai 2012 - 01:32 .

[gothicshark]

napushenko, not sure if you are trolling or not but Mykel54 post had several valid points about the quality of the writing and the game play in total. Also the sudden change in Ceberus need better exposition, other than oh cerberus is evil again. You realise you could have played ME 1 & 2 pro-cerberus. But now you can't be.

Modifié par gothicshark, 19 mai 2012 - 01:21 .

[Kyle Kabanya]

I honestly don't care about anything until the EC comes out. Until then, DLC, comics, tweets, can f off.

[napushenko]

gothicshark wrote...

napushenko, not sure if you are trolling or not but Mykel54 post had several valid points about the quality of the writing and the game play in total. Also the sudden change in Ceberus need better exposition, other than oh cerberus is evil again. You realise you could have played ME 1 & 2 pro-cerberus. But now you can't be.

cerberus was using you, you were using them. your paths crossed in mutualy beneficial way to destroy collectors for you, and analyze them for him. 
so what if you could have played me 2 pro cerberus ? cerberus never ceased their operations and all those rogue ceberus outposts were controlled by tim anyway.  
and exposition in the game is not that cerberus is evil as buhahaha destroy the humanity, tim thought he can control reapers through the crucible. r. he was indoctrinated to think so, maybe. maybe not. 
you wanted something else.  probably because reapers invaded, tim didnt have to wait or play nice anymore. he was machiavellian anyway and he did all those attrocities for research on how to control them. 
so, only thing left for you to be pro cerberus is to be willing accomplice to making juicy fruit out of humans . now, thats not shepard, is it ? 

and that was the story of cerberus told by bioware. 

anything else ? 

and btw, what do you consider "valid" points ? "multiplayer" , " autodialogue "(which was introduced in me 2 btw and didnt change a lot in me 3 from that one), ah, linear plot, like we didnt have that in me 1 and me 2 and well, duh, me 3.  

Modifié par napushenko, 19 mai 2012 - 01:35 .

[napushenko]

Modifié par napushenko, 19 mai 2012 - 01:41 .

[hypothead]

I agree with OP.

[xentar]

It's not healthy to care so much about an imaginary universe and characters. So, perhaps, it's a good thing, not a tragedy. Feels liberating.

[Filurija]

SynheKatze wrote...

The last five minutes did not ruin everything, the whole game was subpar and full of idiocy, the contrived ending was just the icing to the cake.

This. ME3 compared to the other ME's was imo the weakest of them all.

[Arkrite]

I was excited to play this game when it first came out. I ran out after work to get my pre-order only to find I couldn't play when I got home.
Three months later, still can't play, Bioware says it's fixed, and everything I hear about the ending just makes me wish I'd saved my money for another kickstarter effort. :~(

So, yeah, I just don't care anymore either.
I'm sure there are people who will still preorder and run down to pickup their games on the first day, but I'm betting there's going to be a lot less on their next game.

[vjellu]

Played singleplayer campaing once through. Last time I played Mass Effect 3 according Origin was two months ago... Just realized maybe i should come check if there is any tidbits about dlc which could raise my interest level. Didn't find any.

I played both me1 and me2 several times through. 3rd just once.

[Necrotron]

That is a major part of the uproar, people want to still care about Mass Effect.

The ending was so jarring, I found myself immediately having a hard time caring about anything in the Mass Effect series, even my beloved characters, right after I finished it.  Hearing the music would even make me upset.  Still doesn't feel quite the same.

Agree with you, OP.

Modifié par Bathaius, 19 mai 2012 - 03:37 .

[Amyra]

That's the natural response, I guess...
The only way for it not to hurt you, is to make it non-important.

[napushenko]

Arkrite wrote...

I was excited to play this game when it first came out. I ran out after work to get my pre-order only to find I couldn't play when I got home.
Three months later, still can't play, Bioware says it's fixed, and everything I hear about the ending just makes me wish I'd saved my money for another kickstarter effort. :~(

So, yeah, I just don't care anymore either.
I'm sure there are people who will still preorder and run down to pickup their games on the first day, but I'm betting there's going to be a lot less on their next game.

I dont understand. Did you play game ? 

[SalsaDMA]

napushenko wrote...

Arkrite wrote...

I was excited to play this game when it first came out. I ran out after work to get my pre-order only to find I couldn't play when I got home.
Three months later, still can't play, Bioware says it's fixed, and everything I hear about the ending just makes me wish I'd saved my money for another kickstarter effort. :~(

So, yeah, I just don't care anymore either.
I'm sure there are people who will still preorder and run down to pickup their games on the first day, but I'm betting there's going to be a lot less on their next game.

I dont understand. Did you play game ? 

You don't understand much that doesn't confine itself to your version of how the world turns, really.

When will you start accepting that people can have a different opinion of the game than you?
Especially when technical issues impact their products performance...

[TheRealJayDee]

Bathaius wrote...

That is a major part of the uproar, people want to still care about Mass Effect.

It's getting increasingly harder to do that with each day Bioware is giving me the impression they themselves do not care about ME as much they should by (having been) ignoring well known issues with the game, that have nothing at all to do with subjective taste or the game being 'art'.

[TMZuk]

Atakuma wrote...

It is unfortunate that bioware severely underoverestimated the emotional intelligence of it's audience.

There.

[napushenko]

SalsaDMA wrote...

napushenko wrote...

Arkrite wrote...

I was excited to play this game when it first came out. I ran out after work to get my pre-order only to find I couldn't play when I got home.
Three months later, still can't play, Bioware says it's fixed, and everything I hear about the ending just makes me wish I'd saved my money for another kickstarter effort. :~(

So, yeah, I just don't care anymore either.
I'm sure there are people who will still preorder and run down to pickup their games on the first day, but I'm betting there's going to be a lot less on their next game.

I dont understand. Did you play game ? 

You don't understand much that doesn't confine itself to your version of how the world turns, really.

When will you start accepting that people can have a different opinion of the game than you?
Especially when technical issues impact their products performance...

How teh fck can he have an "opinion" of the game if he hasnt even played it ? 
And what technical issues are we talking about ? I have a couple of years old pc and it plays perfectly considering i have only minimum requirements covered. 

[TheRealJayDee]

napushenko wrote...

How teh fck can he have an "opinion" of the game if he hasnt even played it ? 

Oh, believe me, I had a rather strong opinion of the game after not being able to import my Shepard and thus not being able to really play it.

[napushenko]

ah, ok. they solved that, didnt they ? i know i didnt have any problems with importing, but i played it after patching.

anyway, you cant really have opinion about the gameplay, story, shooting if you havent really played it. and it seems to me that post i quoted was not about importing but some other technical issue which may not be biowares responsibility.

i played nba 2k12, and i and many others have first quarter crash bug. many, many others. i cant say now this game is **** cause its the great game, only that first quarter crashing bug sucks.

Modifié par napushenko, 20 mai 2012 - 10:54 .

[TheRealJayDee]

napushenko wrote...

ah, ok. they solved that, didnt they ? i know i didnt have any problems with importing, but i played it after patching.

anyway, you cant really have opinion about the gameplay, story, shooting if you havent really played it. and it seems to me that post i quoted was not about importing but some other technical issue which may not be biowares responsibility.

i played nba 2k12, and i and many others have first quarter crash bug. many, many others. i cant say now this game is **** cause its the great game, only that first quarter crashing bug sucks.

Well, it's partially solved. There are still certain problems with the face import, and we don't know wether they'll be fixed in the future or not.

Also if I judge a game I do not only look at it's gameplay, graphics, story etc, but also take into consideration if there are technical issues that make the gaming experience worse or even prevent me from accessing certain content. If I don't get to see the story due to technical difficulties of course I can't say positive or negative things about the story, but very well about the game as a whole, as a product.