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[Karlone123]

Bioware didn't seem to care, why should we.

[ADelusiveMan]

Honestly, I never really cared. I kind of like the endings, particularly the Synthesis one. And if the indoctrination theory is true, it makes it even better. I just want to know what happens after Shepard makes the choice.

Modifié par ADelusiveMan, 20 mai 2012 - 11:24 .

[Fast Jimmy]

Ironically, a thread about people beginning to not care is now going strong over a week later...?


But once the EC is released, the forums will be in a rage again, one way or another. Even if EC is a pure work of masterpiece art, the situation is still too sour to be anything but neutral at best, hell on earth at worst. If it solves every question and addresses every complaint, people will still say "That was awesome! ...but why the hell did you all give us an incomplete game in the first place?!"

[Sajji]

I agree, OP. I was once one of the BIGGEST Mass Effect fans. What they did to Reaper characterization and overall plot is extremely, extremely disappointing. Even if Indoc theory is accurate, the fact remains....it doesn't resolve the main plot whatsoever. Best case senario, Shep wakes up on Earth having avoided Indoc. This resolves nothing of the plot.

It is THE biggest disappointment in not only video games, but also in all of my literary experiences and in any of my hobbies.

I traded in all three games and have moved on.

Modifié par Sajji, 21 mai 2012 - 01:14 .

[goatman42]

You may not care, but you still want to. Why else would you still be on these forums?

[Fast Jimmy]

goatman42 wrote...

You may not care, but you still want to. Why else would you still be on these forums?

No one wishes car wrecks happen. But almost every one slows down and checks them out as they drive by.

[goatman42]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

goatman42 wrote...

You may not care, but you still want to. Why else would you still be on these forums?

No one wishes car wrecks happen. But almost every one slows down and checks them out as they drive by.

True but someone who claims they no longer care wouldn't keep watching and talking about the car wreck over 2 months after it happened.

[Cainne Chapel]

Filurija wrote...

SynheKatze wrote...

The last five minutes did not ruin everything, the whole game was subpar and full of idiocy, the contrived ending was just the icing to the cake.

This. ME3 compared to the other ME's was imo the weakest of them all.

sad part is.. i've heard people say the same thing in regards to ME2 AND ME1... amazing isn't it?

[moneycashgeorge]

This is very true for me.

I wonder, in general, what is it about a fictional setting that can make it seem so fascinating, that you want to know everything about it and everything that happens in it?

Ever since I first played ME1 a few years ago I deeply fell in love with Mass Effect. Some people compare it to Star Wars, but personally I thought the ME setting was far, far better than the Star Wars one. I loved SW as a young kid but I grew out of it quickly. It became a bit too silly, and then the Prequels murdered any interest I might have had left. ME hit all the right notes for me, it was the perfect setting. The perfect mix of plausibility and style, just enough science and logic to make it an engrossing fantasy.

Now though, after how dismal ME3 was.......the whole thing just disgusts me. I can get why people hang on to the ridiculous IT.....they want that feeling back. I have no doubt that there is no twist, I'm convinced that the series has been run in to the ground by idiots.....but I can see the appeal of a little self-delusional hope.

[Les_Carver]

I couldn't agree more with your post, OP.

I can relate a lot because I used to rally some of my friends to play ME and ME2 too... But as soon as I played ME3, experienced the dreadful ending(s), the buggy, rushed gun gameplay, the watered down overall experience (that delivers MUCH less than it's predecesors), the lazy, economized development (EMS bullsh*t), poor plot writting, the disgusting way in which they handled characters and the way you interact with them and the universe that used to be truly complex and intriguing, the way (maybe EA made them) they employed their resources and focused on MP first and built SP with what was left of that. At least it gives me that impression.

Anyway, now whenever someone asks me for a great SP experience I keep pointing my finger at Skyrim. Mass Effect 3 ruined all the work they put into the previous games, and I can't keep recomending it to anyone anymore.

[Sajji]

goatman42 wrote...

You may not care, but you still want to. Why else would you still be on these forums?

One of the best UI's and fellow forumites. Off-Topic is primarily my home on these forums...stop on over sometime.

[vvDRUCILLAvv]

It seemed to me like Bioware just wanted to get the final chapter of Mass Effect over with. Maybe the series got old for them. I dunno.

[Pee Jae]

Yeah. Used to have a retake banner in my sig. Then, somebody's imageshack went dead. Thought about getting another and then realized I just didn't care anymore. I play MP. I play SP up until the end, then my eyes just glaze over and I go through the motions to get it done and import my weapons/armor/ships/fish/space hamster to new game plus.

I'm tired of arguing about why I think it's bad. I'm tired of arguing with people who think it's good. I'm tired of Bioware's languid responses to pretty much anything negative said about the game. I'm really tired of not hearing anything about any progress on the EC whatsoever.

Yeah. I'm just tired.

[Benny8484]

moneycashgeorge wrote...

This is very true for me.

I wonder, in general, what is it about a fictional setting that can make it seem so fascinating, that you want to know everything about it and everything that happens in it?

Ever since I first played ME1 a few years ago I deeply fell in love with Mass Effect. Some people compare it to Star Wars, but personally I thought the ME setting was far, far better than the Star Wars one. I loved SW as a young kid but I grew out of it quickly. It became a bit too silly, and then the Prequels murdered any interest I might have had left. ME hit all the right notes for me, it was the perfect setting. The perfect mix of plausibility and style, just enough science and logic to make it an engrossing fantasy.

Now though, after how dismal ME3 was.......the whole thing just disgusts me. I can get why people hang on to the ridiculous IT.....they want that feeling back. I have no doubt that there is no twist, I'm convinced that the series has been run in to the ground by idiots.....but I can see the appeal of a little self-delusional hope.

Well put.  Completely agree man...

[chester013]

Atakuma wrote...

It is unfortunate that bioware severely overestimated the emotional intelligence of it's audience.

Oh do be quiet you self important cretin.

[Hanko21]

I had multiple playthrough in ME1 and ME2. I have finish ME3 once but never bother/feel like playing a 2nd playthrough. I just don't care anymore.

[Aunrielle]

I still love the universe and the characters. I just really dislike the plot of ME3. ME3 does not however, diminish my interest in the other elements. I am able to kind of "head canon" things that I hate about a story. I pretend the endings never happened.

It does make me angry that they basically killed the setting. The characters and the intricacies of the setting and different races are what makes Mass Effect. That is what the fans want, hence the reason everyone is disatisfied. I don't really see a way for them to continue the series. I guess I'll just stick with fan fics and replay the first two games.. The last one depresses me, so I only play it to a certain point.

[Swimming Ferret]

You said it. :|

Damn Bioware, when you wanna flush house, you go the whole hog.

[Zarovtich]

we can see it, people stop carring everywhere: look at the bioware's facebook, or twitter, the comments numbers are dropping really fast (and the majority are bashing the ending^^), other gaming forums are just laughing now, ME3 ending will soon be a meme for a bad joke.
Hudson had say "Me3 will be remembered"... It's one of his rare statement that is fondamentaly true, but I think it was not how he saw that ...

To be honest, it'sjust my opinion, ME3 is just an average game, a game where the majority of sales are made on pre-orders due to PR speech and the fidelity of the fans, an average game who made average sales (at last for an AAA game).

Now i don't care anymore but i'm curious to see how the PR will manage the backlash and DA3 (continue guys, you are fantastics ! i need more of your work for my PR courses^^)

[OlympusMons423]

Wow I can see what even a well written story would be up against now. I guess I don't know who or what to be more disappointed in now.

I will proudly go on record of saying, even though I did not like the ending at all, I still think this game is one of the best ever made (even with less than perfect moments in the past). I am not some Polly-Anna either BTW. But be damned if I will throw the baby out with the bath water just to get back at them.

I would have loved several very different endings, including the happy one. I could be more at peace with things if they re-wrote and explained it the right way. Very few games ever came alive like this one, when it was working. I do still care about seeing it pull itself out of the fire. Please put it back in some kind of balance BioWare. You owe it to all the work you did before on this game, not only to us.

BTW... someone calls Tali a chicken in a suite....(rolls eyes)... Just goes to show that ones mans gold is another's trash. I agree that all the Love Interests should have been written up to her standards. It should always be pointed out that Tali was not even a romance character until enough fans wanted it. That turned out to be an absolutely right choice, even if it wasn't your original vision BioWare....Thank God, some fans cared back then enough to push for it. It added a ton to this game.

[Embrosil]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

I don't care that you don't care.

ME3 is epic. Anybody who lets five minutes ruin an entire franchise for them is an extremely petty person.

Also for the record about that comic, only the red explosion at the lowest EMS kills everyone, other results only damage everything except organics or just target the Reapers and nothing else.

Oh, yes, Titanic voyage was epic. Anybody who let the last five minutes to ruin it was an extremely petty person, right?

[Calibisto]

Embrosil wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

I don't care that you don't care.

ME3 is epic. Anybody who lets five minutes ruin an entire franchise for them is an extremely petty person.

Also for the record about that comic, only the red explosion at the lowest EMS kills everyone, other results only damage everything except organics or just target the Reapers and nothing else.

Oh, yes, Titanic voyage was epic. Anybody who let the last five minutes to ruin it was an extremely petty person, right?

This made me laugh.

[DaneWolf]

I still love the ME universe... Even though the ending is kinda miss placed. I still love and plays the games! Those games that made me laugh and cry and care deeply about the charakters... I don't LOVE the ending... I don't HATE the ending either. Though improvements to the ending would be welcome!

[OlympusMons423]

There have been many movies about the Titanic. It is interesting how that disaster plays more than something like the Lusitania (spelling) which killed more people I think. The Titanic went down over a long enough time to get in there and actually build up the story. We all know it doesn't end so well, but usually it is explained how some got on the lifeboats or not. We see the heartbreaking scene. We see the couple who would rather go down together. It gives us something to reason through.

This in part is why (although I don't like the ending) I think they could still save this ending a bit. You insert a line of dialogue between Shepard and Joker that has him giving an order to evacuate the love interest, and crew if it looks bad. That solves the how they got on board and why the run. Its simple, but it does give the reasonable cause and effect.

..later on the garden planet you have remaining crew, show the effect of what Shepard chose in more detail. You use voice talent to leave the game with one of its strongest more most unique points...the face to face personal quality of it all. Obviously any love interest gets the heart telling us, and leaving us with what and why we just went through all of this.

Many would have issues with this too, and still hate it no matter what. I won't dismiss the reasonable ones who still came down on this side. I do wish the game had many different actually endings. It would have been tons better for the game itself providing more reasons to go back and debate which was more true to an ending.... But like a good Titanic story, this would do the same that makes a tragic story like that work. Some die, some do not. Sometimes its so unfair. I;m sure for the actual people on board the Titanic, it didn't make sense to them either...why them...why now? Years later the living would still remember, or feel guilty about living while other died. Just walk us through it BioWare. Do it right with what we have. Ask the right questions for the story and the game and just do it. You came way too far to just leave the ball dropped like this. Don't drop it a second time. If this ending worked for you, if it really was the ending planned all along... really show us why. This is your reputation and a percentage of future sales on the line. Loyal customer are not that easy to make, and all too easy to lose. Even with most of us burned by that ending, many still are giving you a second chance.

Modifié par OlympusMons423, 21 mai 2012 - 11:50 .

[abaris]

Cainne Chapel wrote...


sad part is.. i've heard people say the same thing in regards to ME2 AND ME1... amazing isn't it?

Not that many though. And not on an international scale.