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[Link Ashland 614]

So much negativity around here. There really isn't anything postive left?

[Kyle Kabanya]

Any one else notice that from ME1 to ME3, the combat got really good. And then the story/RPG/ME1 feel went down as it got to the third game.

Goes to show why EA should have kept their mits out of Bioware.

[JoshPet12]

For me, after I finished the first time, I was angry, the apathetic. However at this point I've reached a point where I've decided not to let my disappointment about the ending ruin what was heretofore IMO an excellent scifi franchise.

So I've decided that I will play the series through all three games however once I reach the ME3 ending I'll basically ignore the options and go with a fanfiction I'm writing where Shepard isn't a credulous idiot who doesn't question what an enemy says. Basically in my story Shepard either talks the Catalyst into weakening the Reapers and shutting itself down(Paragon) or finds the StarBrats quantum blue box and introduces it to his gun(Renegade.)

Afterwards what happens depends on EMS. If high enough Shep is rescued and ends the game with his/her LI. If EMS is too low Shepard bleeds out and the LI stands before a memorial statue of Shepard crying quietly while the galaxy celebrates the defeat of the Reapers.

Additionally choosing Paragon or Renegade has an effect on the remaining war with the Reapers. If Paragon they are weakened and their ability to indoctrinate outside of creating husks is disabled. If Renegade the war is long and bloody and there will be Reaper sightings and attacks for centuries. And yes I am going to be writing all the different endings

[gothicshark]

Link Ashland 614 wrote...

So much negativity around here. There really isn't anything postive left?

Well generally I would say you have three options:

1. you can either like what Bioware is doing and ignor the bad ending, and the comments which make it sound like the fans are stupid. You can then wonder off in to positive happy bliss and ignor it all.

2. you can join up with the conspiracy theory and talk about IT as if it is your salvation, ignoring the fact that that would not actually be an ending.

http://social.biowar...ndex/12157596/3

3. Or you can face the facts as they are, shrug your shoulders and walk away from it all.

[Karlone123]

napushenko wrote...

some people really think they have some influence over developers or something. like spoiled brats, il cry and be angry if i dont get a lollypop

If I pay $60 for a lolipop it better be strawberry and not blackcurrent.

[MatCat]

Going back to the beginning of this thread, comparing ME to Star Wars is a good analogy for me. I'm still a huge Star Wars fan, not quite the ME fan I was before the end of ME3. I'm sorry, I know the end shouldn't ruin the saga for me, but it does. I can't say that I would be the star wars fan I am today if it ended with Luke grabbing the Emperor and hurling the both of them into the Death Star core, followed by the Death Star exploding, taking down half of the rebel fleet and the forest moon with Han and Leia on it. That would be the Star Wars ending equivalent with what we got in ME3. That is why ME went from epic to meh.

[AlanC9]

Link Ashland 614 wrote...

So much negativity around here. There really isn't anything postive left?

With a thread title like this, you shouldn't expect much.

[Rk589]

MatCat wrote...

Going back to the beginning of this thread, comparing ME to Star Wars is a good analogy for me. I'm still a huge Star Wars fan, not quite the ME fan I was before the end of ME3. I'm sorry, I know the end shouldn't ruin the saga for me, but it does. I can't say that I would be the star wars fan I am today if it ended with Luke grabbing the Emperor and hurling the both of them into the Death Star core, followed by the Death Star exploding, taking down half of the rebel fleet and the forest moon with Han and Leia on it. That would be the Star Wars ending equivalent with what we got in ME3. That is why ME went from epic to meh.

Essentially this. ME3 killed Mass Effect for me. At this point I don't care anymore.

[AlanC9]

How is killing all the Star Wars characters the same as killing one ME character?

[redneck131377]

i agree how many times do want to replay ME3 with each piece of dlc. it is just not the same as ME2. boring is as boring is

[LolaLei]

To be honest I've not touched ME3 in weeks, I tried to do a second playthrough but I just couldn't get into it after knowing "all" the endings are pretty much gonna be the same, which results in the same out come anyway. I'm just gonna see what the EC dlc is like, then decide whether or not to play all 3 of them through again, if it's rubbish or serves only to reiterate what we already know then I probably won't bother playing them again for a long time.

Here's hoping DA3 can salvage things eh.

[Durontan]

When it boils down to the finish line, it is do you care about the franchise or not in the end. I can tell you with 100% and 0 doubt in my mind that the series is dead to me with this ending.

I bought all DLCs for past games and went through all the books, now I can tell you that I won't be getting any new DLCs for ME3 or any new fiction from past as when it comes down to it, all of it doesn't matter.

You're comparing it to Star Wars. I'll let you have a situation Star Wars would have had. Lets say all that happened in Star Wars happened and then in the end instead of confronting his Father and Palpatine Luke Skywalker fell asleep and in a dream found THE FORCE. And now FORCE taking a form of an Ewok tells him that he can't confront his father, but he can A) Destroy force, remove it from galaxy and die in process, become one with the force and stop existing in process making entire galaxy into a hive mind (read BORG from Star trek) or C) Become THE FORCE, so he can take control of his Father and Palpatine, ofc stop existing here also.

Would that ruin entire SW series? In my book it would.

[AlanC9]

LolaLei wrote...
 I tried to do a second playthrough but I just couldn't get into it after knowing "all" the endings are pretty much gonna be the same, which results in the same out come anyway

How come having all the endings look very much alike didn't bother people who played BG1, BG2, NWN, KotOR.... etc.?

[BladyMZ]

Because we were not promised different endings, we were not told about how we "shape the galaxy", create our own path. etc ?

[Durontan]

AlanC9 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
 I tried to do a second playthrough but I just couldn't get into it after knowing "all" the endings are pretty much gonna be the same, which results in the same out come anyway

How come having all the endings look very much alike didn't bother people who played BG1, BG2, NWN, KotOR.... etc.?

Oh really? Lets see. BG1 had it's end but it was a series so you can expect a single ending to it, BG was meant as a trilogy from start, but end of BG2:TOB you had a same animation, but your choices mattered ****load. Depending on your party members and love interests different stories for each of them, not to mention different points of view from them for the final choice. Final choice of becoming a God or becoming a mortal even with same animation TELLS WTF happened to you and there was closure for your party members in both different endings.
NWN I always considered weakest game in Bioware history, but even such your choices mattered somewhat. At the end you learned of the fate of some of your choices.
KOTOR had 2 compleately different choices with different animations and again choices mattered.

People joke about ME3 color choice because it was reduced to that. No closure, no explanation, no ****ing reason for Normandy or squad to end where they ended no nothing. No knowledge of what happened to galaxy, all of it didn't matter ****. So yes, when you give no closure you atleast expect different animations, and we got jack ****.

[LolaLei]

AlanC9 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
 I tried to do a second playthrough but I just couldn't get into it after knowing "all" the endings are pretty much gonna be the same, which results in the same out come anyway

How come having all the endings look very much alike didn't bother people who played BG1, BG2, NWN, KotOR.... etc.?

Because it's not just 1 epic ending that makes sense, it's 3 endings that are all pretty much the same that are not particularly outstanding from a climatic point of view.

[BadboyDk78]

I played ME1 to the extend where i had 5 diffrent chars to play in ME2. in me2 i played them several times to get the best ending i could do to prepare for the final moment in ME3.

I completed the ME3 with my first character, and did not see any point on completing it with my other 4 characters... I siply lost intrest. the edning all leads to the same.

DEATH TO SHEPARD, END OF ALL SPACETRAVEL,

and not to mention, are reapers gods?

if u choose the middle part where shepard jumps into the fricking light, all life become cyborgs punks? WTF??? how can that even happen without extend curgical operation???

BW, i lost everything i had for you, and i had a LOT.
Its fine u try to tell us stupid people how it all adds up with your version of the story, but heck. I played so shepard could live to tell the story to all his blue friends, and live in that house shepard won in a game from ME1.

[Shockwave81]

My main beef with Mass Effect 3 lies with the lame fetchquests that are forced on players while we meander around the Citadel.

Firing a probe to pick up a Prothean Obelisk is cheap at best and nonsensical at worst - and that's just one example.

[Siripho]

Whoa.

A thread about Mass Effect 3 on a forum dedicated entirely to Mass Effect 3, filled to the rafters with comments from people who don't care about Mass Effect anymore.

This place really is a cesspit of idiocy now.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to find a forum where I can tell everyone how **** the formerly epic Jaws has been since Ellen Brody drove a ship into a plastic fish in the fourth one...

[Andromidius]

Siripho wrote...

Whoa.

A thread about Mass Effect 3 on a forum dedicated entirely to Mass Effect 3, filled to the rafters with comments from people who don't care about Mass Effect anymore.

Its a thread attempting to let Bioware know how hard they dropped the ball with keeping their diehard fans interested.

Its an attempt to explain how we all feel.  How disappointed we feel, and how crushed we are that one of our favourite story series has been essentially destroyed for no good reason at all.

Many of us expected Shepard to die.  But we also expected choices to matter, and for Shepard to go down fighting.  Instead, we got no choice at all and Shepard went down with a wimper of obedience to his/her mortal enemy's command.

If you disagree, that's fine.  But insults really aren't required.

[Siripho]

Andromidius wrote...

Siripho wrote...

Whoa.

A thread about Mass Effect 3 on a forum dedicated entirely to Mass Effect 3, filled to the rafters with comments from people who don't care about Mass Effect anymore.

Its a thread attempting to let Bioware know how hard they dropped the ball with keeping their diehard fans interested.

Its an attempt to explain how we all feel.  How disappointed we feel, and how crushed we are that one of our favourite story series has been essentially destroyed for no good reason at all.

Many of us expected Shepard to die.  But we also expected choices to matter, and for Shepard to go down fighting.  Instead, we got no choice at all and Shepard went down with a wimper of obedience to his/her mortal enemy's command.

If you disagree, that's fine.  But insults really aren't required.

The irony of it just doesn't amuse you even just a little?

Your use of the term 'diehard fans' in description of those who feel an entire trilogy ruined because of ten minutes of gaming seems to suggest not.

I should point out that - Gee! Whizz! - I played the game too. So this isn't really an attempt to explain to Bioware how we 'all' feel at all, anymore than if I wrote a letter to Spielberg about how 'everybody' now hates that original shark film because of the whole 'Revenge' shebungle.

Plus, I think Bioware may have already noticed a little despondancy about the ending. I think that there was another post about it on this forum once.

[napushenko]

isnt diehard opposite of im gonna quit if i dont get my talis picture and shiny ending bioware ?

[napushenko]

and i dont exactly see how this state of the facts posts of siripho actually insulted you.
its 17 pages of not caring.

ah, now i see. retracting comment. 

still, 17 pages of not caring remain. 

Modifié par napushenko, 22 mai 2012 - 02:04 .

[AlanC9]

LolaLei wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

LolaLei wrote...
 I tried to do a second playthrough but I just couldn't get into it after knowing "all" the endings are pretty much gonna be the same, which results in the same out come anyway

How come having all the endings look very much alike didn't bother people who played BG1, BG2, NWN, KotOR.... etc.?

Because it's not just 1 epic ending that makes sense, it's 3 endings that are all pretty much the same that are not particularly outstanding from a climatic point of view.

OK. But then the problem you actually have isn't the problem that you said you had.

[Siripho]

napushenko wrote...

and i dont exactly see how this state of the facts posts of siripho actually insulted you.
its 17 pages of not caring.

ah, now i see. retracting comment. 

still, 17 pages of not caring remain. 

This made me chuckle rather a lot.

I genuinely didn't mean to insult anyone.

Honest.