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You know, I suffer from depression and one of the things that has kept me motivated was ME. Loving ME1/2 and anticipating ME3 so much. Then I beat ME3. That ending made me more depressed than I was before. I honestly dont know what the **** to do anymore.

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Siripho wrote...

Perculiar.

I last posted on this thread almost a fortnight ago when I commented that it seemed ironic that those who don't care should be here doing all this *caring*.

I then left, went on with my business without giving it one further thought. Yet the thread remains, feeding inexorably on the noncaring of noncarers.

This make me wonder. Since I like ME3 really quite a lot, but don't post here for that length of time, does this mean that I actually care about it less than some of you who claim not to care at all?

The irony has become almost paradoxical.


Well, in my opinion, the people here really do don't care anymore. At least about the games. However the fandom that formed over the Mass Effect series has created a sort of... Haven? I have spent so much idle time here on the forums it has become my homepage on my browser. The discussions I have had here has fueled so much debate and sparked my imagination it is hard to abandon.

So I kinda drift here. I can't seem to play ME3 outside of the rare bout of multiplayer (which is due to my internet being crappy.) I really can't seem to muster any enthusiasm, especially for that extended cut dlc which I will let other people play before I decide to risk another big dissapointment...

I really don't care anymore. I feel apathetic about the franchise, and I feel terrible about it. So I drift here naturally when I start up my internet, glance over topics, see every topic is about the dissapointing ending, or about apathy toward the series (which I feel) and as such I respond.

I think this thread is more of a general chatroom sharing how several fans, or former fans (fan zombies?) feel currently.

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I agree, I've basically stopped caring about the series at all. Now all I can see is everything bad each game did. Hell, I only even come here anymore because it's past midnight and all of my other bookmarks have nothing new on them.

However, it's for more than just the ending; I think that ME3 as a whole was extremely underwhelming.

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QwertyMusicMan wrote...

I agree, I've basically stopped caring about the series at all. Now all I can see is everything bad each game did. Hell, I only even come here anymore because it's past midnight and all of my other bookmarks have nothing new on them.

However, it's for more than just the ending; I think that ME3 as a whole was extremely underwhelming.


I agree.Through out the whole game with the exception of two missions it seemed pretty mediocre.To bad it was a great series till three.

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Olueq wrote...

You know, I suffer from depression and one of the things that has kept me motivated was ME. Loving ME1/2 and anticipating ME3 so much. Then I beat ME3. That ending made me more depressed than I was before. I honestly dont know what the **** to do anymore.


I had this too.

I also suffer from a depression and when I had finished ME3 and read BioWare's response to it I did get even more depressed.

I've sort of gotten over it, taking some new meds. probably helps too. But I'll be forever sad & dissapointed at BioWare, unless...

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double-post

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

I don't care that you don't care.

ME3 is epic. Anybody who lets five minutes ruin an entire franchise for them is an extremely petty person.

Also for the record about that comic, only the red explosion at the lowest EMS kills everyone, other results only damage everything except organics or just target the Reapers and nothing else.


Petty? You have to be joking. ME3 is like a car crash in your favourite car or any car or eating your favourite food, only to find out that thiers a piece of a corpse in it. ME3 is almost dead to me, you can't just go but the journey was nice if you had a car crash that was specifically the car's fault.

Also, the ending of ME3 results more than just the damage of every except organics or what not, are you forgetting about the mass relays and what they do?

And bioware defended thier ending with the words 'artistic integrity'. My god, the number of times i've had heard people talk about theirs no room for "artistic integrity" from the game's industry renders Bioware's defensive word a complete laughing stock.

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That's pathetic.

You're a cat.

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antique_nova wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

I don't care that you don't care.

ME3 is epic. Anybody who lets five minutes ruin an entire franchise for them is an extremely petty person.

Also for the record about that comic, only the red explosion at the lowest EMS kills everyone, other results only damage everything except organics or just target the Reapers and nothing else.


Petty? You have to be joking. ME3 is like a car crash in your favourite car or any car or eating your favourite food, only to find out that thiers a piece of a corpse in it. ME3 is almost dead to me, you can't just go but the journey was nice if you had a car crash that was specifically the car's fault.

Also, the ending of ME3 results more than just the damage of every except organics or what not, are you forgetting about the mass relays and what they do?

And bioware defended thier ending with the words 'artistic integrity'. My god, the number of times i've had heard people talk about theirs no room for "artistic integrity" from the game's industry renders Bioware's defensive word a complete laughing stock.

Well said.

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antique_nova wrote...

Petty? You have to be joking. ME3 is like a car crash in your favourite car or any car or eating your favourite food, only to find out that thiers a piece of a corpse in it. ME3 is almost dead to me, you can't just go but the journey was nice if you had a car crash that was specifically the car's fault.

Also, the ending of ME3 results more than just the damage of every except organics or what not, are you forgetting about the mass relays and what they do?

And bioware defended thier ending with the words 'artistic integrity'. My god, the number of times i've had heard people talk about theirs no room for "artistic integrity" from the game's industry renders Bioware's defensive word a complete laughing stock.


Exactly!  Short of an all out apology and retcon the franchise is now dead for a lot of people.  What is left is a smoldering pile of parts piledriven into the back end of a garbage truck.

Modifié par kiyomizu, 06 juin 2012 - 05:37 .


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:lol: Never going to happen. Never.


It already happened with Dragon Age II. The dev team publicly came out a month after the game's release and admitted they screwed up. That's why I give them a lot more leeway than the ME team.

$5 says the ME dev team comes out in the next 6 months and apologizes for the game.

Yup I am giving the DA team a second chance with DA3 since they actually said "sorry we messed up". 

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The awful ending has for the most part cauterized me to the franchise. I used to be pretty regular at the Cerberus Daily News... now I hardly go there at all anymore.

And it effectively cauterized any plausible continuation of the franchise. There's just... nothing left of the MEverse after that ending, even with the best case scenario.  All the ravaged worlds have no chance of recovery without tapping the resources of the galaxy now denied them.  And that's pretending that Bioware isn't lying again about the Citadel explosion being a "disconnect" between the writers and cutscene artists, because the collapsing Citadel debris would definitely be five ward arm-shaped extinction-level impactors.

Modifié par MadCat221, 06 juin 2012 - 06:33 .


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The ending of ME3 reminds me of Lost. I loved the first two seasons and liked the rest, but after the last epidose I can't see myself watching the show again or anything else produced by the same people. I didn't exactly *hate* the last episode, I just thought it was disappointing, but it made re-watching pointless. I couldn't help thinking how each plot thread will be later dropped or explained with a lame explanation, so there's no point in caring about anything that happens on screen. It's a very different thing from something that I know will have a satisfying ending. Then it's just fun to re-watch and see how the events will lead to the resolution, even if I already know how it will play out.

Same thing with ME3. If I'd re-play the previous games now, I see no point in caring or doing anything because in the end it's useless. The ending of ME3 ruined the series for me, just like the resolution to Lost. Calling me "petty" because of it doesn't chance the way I feel.

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Something I don't understand is why people who are so distraught over the ending and say they don't care about the series anymore still come here to post about how much they hate it. Most people would just pick up and move on.

You need to remember, this is all fiction. None of these characters actually exist outside of a piece of computer software and pixels. I guess some people have a hard time separating what is real and what is fiction or made up.

As for those who say that it was "your" Shepard. The Mass Effect franchise and anything related to it is property of Bioware. When you are playing Mass Effect 3, you are given a license to use the software and by using it, you do so by the guidelines Bioware has set forth. Your choices are their choices. You make your own story with the choices they provide for you.

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magnetite wrote...

Something I don't understand is why people who are so distraught over the ending and say they don't care about the series anymore still come here to post about how much they hate it. Most people would just pick up and move on.


Fans are not like most people. Fans have grown a personal relationship with the ME universe and the community surrounding it. Many people here still come here because they have a hard time letting go of either one, but it doesn't mean their relationship with ME hasn't changed. I come here mostly because of out of habit and because I still have hope that the extended cut will fix things. Not a lot of hope, but still. But even if I come here doesn't mean my feelings for ME haven't changed. I haven't played any ME and I haven't bought any of the merchandise I thought I would. I think most likely when the feeling of disappointment goes over, ME doesn't really mean anything to me anymore.

magnetite wrote...You need to remember, this is all fiction. None of these characters actually exist outside of a piece of computer software and pixels. I guess some people have a hard time separating what is real and what is fiction or made up.


So you don't understand people and think of the most patronizing explanation possible. Thanks for the benefit of the doubt I guess.<_< We are not stupid, you know.

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Olueq wrote...

You know, I suffer from depression and one of the things that has kept me motivated was ME. Loving ME1/2 and anticipating ME3 so much. Then I beat ME3. That ending made me more depressed than I was before. I honestly dont know what the **** to do anymore.


Grow up. 

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RaggieRags wrote...

magnetite wrote...You need to remember, this is all fiction. None of these characters actually exist outside of a piece of computer software and pixels. I guess some people have a hard time separating what is real and what is fiction or made up.


So you don't understand people and think of the most patronizing explanation possible. Thanks for the benefit of the doubt I guess.<_< We are not stupid, you know.


Just diluded.

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 I still care.


That people care less about Mass Effect could also have an element of fatigue to it. Remember the original Star Wars films, when they came out? Remember how after the third all  Star Wars toy lines quickly went on sale, the comics slowly ebbed out and everybody was longing for something new (He-Man! Yeah!)? It probably had something to do with the story being finished ..

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Some of us have picked up and moved on. I came back to the boards to see if and or when the ending DLC was coming out and I can honestly tell you that before I waste another moment playing anything by Bioware in this franchise, I'll watch it on youtube first before trusting them again. And yes, a bad ending can ruin a potential buyers perspective of an otherwise good series of games or a company.

The ending was trite, unexplainable and not supported within any part of the established story they built up over the first two games and three games worth and countless hours of decisions had no relevance on the out come.

you know, watch this instead...

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incinerator950 wrote...

Olueq wrote...

You know, I suffer from depression and one of the things that has kept me motivated was ME. Loving ME1/2 and anticipating ME3 so much. Then I beat ME3. That ending made me more depressed than I was before. I honestly dont know what the **** to do anymore.


Grow up. 

really? Are you serious? This is the problem with society right here. Ignorant people like this.  Who really needs to grow up, here?  Ur getting reported for that.

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incinerator950 wrote...

Olueq wrote...

You know, I suffer from depression and one of the things that has kept me motivated was ME. Loving ME1/2 and anticipating ME3 so much. Then I beat ME3. That ending made me more depressed than I was before. I honestly dont know what the **** to do anymore.


Grow up. 


That's an absolutely terrible thing to say. I've suffered from depression once and it's pure hell. People who say things like that make it worse. Are you proud of yourself now?

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incinerator950 wrote...

RaggieRags wrote...

magnetite wrote...You need to remember, this is all fiction. None of these characters actually exist outside of a piece of computer software and pixels. I guess some people have a hard time separating what is real and what is fiction or made up.


So you don't understand people and think of the most patronizing explanation possible. Thanks for the benefit of the doubt I guess.<_< We are not stupid, you know.


Just diluded.


Your ignorance and inability to feel is just sad.

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incinerator950 wrote...

Olueq wrote...

You know, I suffer from depression and one of the things that has kept me motivated was ME. Loving ME1/2 and anticipating ME3 so much. Then I beat ME3. That ending made me more depressed than I was before. I honestly dont know what the **** to do anymore.


Grow up. 


YOU sir need to grow up. Depression is a very real thing and nothing to make light of! Please take a seat and reevaluate your attitude. :huh:

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Mass Effect has become an embarrising train wreck in my opinion. My situation is exactly like the OP here, i dont care at all about this series anymore, no longer talk about it, will not recommend it to anyone and wont spend another dollar on it. That is my reaction to a poor ending that left me feeling extremely unsatisfied and like i had pretty much wasted my time with it. After the regrettable dragon age 2, im no longer in the pre-order crowd for anything bioware puts out - i did that 3 times and i felt ripped off twice. ME2 was fine but me3 and da2 are just simply not up to standard. Im really blown away that me3 got so many high reviews, its certainly NOT better than me2. Not one thing was significantly better. Oh thats right, i forgot about those amazing turret sequences and those eaves-dropping side quests. Im surprised this game even came out - if i worked there and heard what they were doing with the unfinished ending and the cheap missions i would have quit, and i find it hard to believe people didnt. This game was a big lesson in filtering hype - the things they claimed this game would be - the 'epic conclusion' is all just a load of garbage. I learned not to trust what devolopers say their game will be and i learned not to pre-order anything from bioware. Man, me3 is so bad.

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I'm inclined to fully agree.