Has anyone determined whether there is a combination of actions and/or dialogue at the Landsmeet and in the cutscene at Arl Eamon's estate immediately afterward that will result in Alistair becoming king but will not cause him to have lose approval? I've noticed that every combination of actions and dialogue seems to result in Alistair losing at least 2 pts in approval after he becomes king. It doesn't seem to matter whether I choose him over Anora or if he kills Loghain himself and takes the crown. I ask only because the DA Wiki page on the Landsmeet quest suggests that if you prepare him properly at various points before the Landsmeet and convince him that he should be king, he will not lose those two points. I just can't figure out how to do it!
By the way, my Warden is male, so there's no romance subtext to consider in this question. Just wanted to see if anyone has the answer. I seem to recall a dialogue map of the cutscene at Eamon's estate after the Landsmeet used to be available, but isn't any more. Anyone have any thoughts?
Alistair approval question
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Posté 15 mai 2012 - 02:24
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You have to prepare him by hardening him in his personal quest with his sister. If you tell him he has to realise that everyone's out for themselves, then follow that up with a later conversation, you can harden him and he will support the idea of being crowned.
Unhardened Alistair does not want to be king.
Unhardened Alistair does not want to be king.
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Posté 15 mai 2012 - 02:42
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Nah, you lose approval with King Alistair even if you harden him. (Or maybe I just had a bug.)
At least, that's what happened in my playthrough. Alistair was hardened, I wanted to be a good friend, I let him execute Loghain, the Landsmeet decided he was the new king, he talked to me afterwards like I had specifically crowned him (which I didn't, I wasn't even planning on crowning him), and while he was much more accepting than he would have been unhardened, he was also rather resigned and a little bitter about it. BAM! -2 Approval.
At least, that's what happened in my playthrough. Alistair was hardened, I wanted to be a good friend, I let him execute Loghain, the Landsmeet decided he was the new king, he talked to me afterwards like I had specifically crowned him (which I didn't, I wasn't even planning on crowning him), and while he was much more accepting than he would have been unhardened, he was also rather resigned and a little bitter about it. BAM! -2 Approval.
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Posté 15 mai 2012 - 03:05
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I'm having the same experience as Faerunner. Alistair is hardened in my playthrough, so that's definitely not the x-factor here. Sorry, I should've mentioned it in my original post, since I also thought about it. But I get the same dialogue even when he is hardened.
He begins the post-Landsmeet cutscene with incredulous dialogue about how I'd made him king, even if he killed Loghain himself and accepted the crown with no intervention by my Warden. In some of those clips, he does seem more amendable to being king (e.g., rather than getting flustered when Eamon declares him king, he says that he'll accept the Landsmeet's decision). Nevertheless, afterward he still has the same out-of-place dialogue with the PC, and I lose 2 approval points. Faerunner may be correct that this is just a bug, but if anyone has any further insight, I'd appreciate it.
He begins the post-Landsmeet cutscene with incredulous dialogue about how I'd made him king, even if he killed Loghain himself and accepted the crown with no intervention by my Warden. In some of those clips, he does seem more amendable to being king (e.g., rather than getting flustered when Eamon declares him king, he says that he'll accept the Landsmeet's decision). Nevertheless, afterward he still has the same out-of-place dialogue with the PC, and I lose 2 approval points. Faerunner may be correct that this is just a bug, but if anyone has any further insight, I'd appreciate it.
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Posté 15 mai 2012 - 06:28
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It's not a bug. There's no alternative dialog there. There are quite a few issues post-Landsmeet with things like this (I put in the same category as Alistair always thinking he's King when telling him about the dark ritual). I don't know if there was never any alternative dialog, or they ran out of the resources to put it in.
