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[JBPBRC]

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Not enough Spider-Man in the last few posts.

Modifié par JBPBRC, 15 mai 2012 - 03:57 .

[sAxMoNkI]

JBPBRC wrote...

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Not enough Spider-Man in the last few posts.

I literally cant think of a reason why this pic would exist except as being a meme lol

[Oransel]

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Oransel wrote...

There will always be people like me. People who love what we are. People who will preserve our identity. "You can't kill the idea", afterall. And I am sure that if/when we will make contact with aliens, there will be people like me on the Earth.

I agree with the bolded part. However unlike you I see that as a travesty.

I see that as patriotism. Just like Shepard who votes for Terra Firma as he is a patriot.

[legion999]

Oransel wrote...

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Oransel wrote...

There will always be people like me. People who love what we are. People who will preserve our identity. "You can't kill the idea", afterall. And I am sure that if/when we will make contact with aliens, there will be people like me on the Earth.

I agree with the bolded part. However unlike you I see that as a travesty.

I see that as patriotism. Just like Shepard who votes for Terra Firma as he is a patriot.

Patriotism isn't always a good thing.

[nitefyre410]

 

^ EDI's response's to this  she told Spidey to  let ya'll know 

[sAxMoNkI]

Oransel wrote...

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Oransel wrote...

There will always be people like me. People who love what we are. People who will preserve our identity. "You can't kill the idea", afterall. And I am sure that if/when we will make contact with aliens, there will be people like me on the Earth.

I agree with the bolded part. However unlike you I see that as a travesty.

I see that as patriotism. Just like Shepard who votes for Terra Firma as he is a patriot.

And quite how would being loyal to one's country make them instantly a xenophobe? Or do you think the two words mean the same thing?

(Hint...they don't).

P.s. voting for any party who's agenda is the supremacy of one group over another is nothing to be proud of.

[Kajan451]

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Joker be damned. If he objects, then I'll break his arms and legs and leave him on a deserted planet.

Wow, man. You need serious help. Have you considered getting a professional therapy yet? If not, please, do yourself a favor and get some, before you end up in prison or worse.

[Reign Tsumiraki]

  

[The Night Mammoth]

Oransel wrote...

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Oransel wrote...

There will always be people like me. People who love what we are. People who will preserve our identity. "You can't kill the idea", afterall. And I am sure that if/when we will make contact with aliens, there will be people like me on the Earth.

I agree with the bolded part. However unlike you I see that as a travesty.

I see that as patriotism. Just like Shepard who votes for Terra Firma as he is a patriot.

Ah yes, Terra Frima, that organisation cursed with being largely composed of racists and xenophobes, despite the leadership's best intentions. 

Believing humanity should keep its identity is one thing. Believing humanity superior to other species is another. 

The former is admirable. The latter is stupid. 

[Kajan451]

Oransel wrote...

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Oransel wrote...

As far as I know there is no law or forum requirement to tell me that being anti-alien is racist and forbidden, since, you know, we are not even sure aliens exist. You are complaining about me being racist towards fictional races, THAT is ridiculous.

No forum rule no, but ethically I am repulsed by the implications of what you said and personally in my eyes you represent many aspects of the human personality that I find abhorrent. That clear things up for you?

There will always be people like me. People who love what we are. People who will preserve our identity. "You can't kill the idea", afterall. And I am sure that if/when we will make contact with aliens, there will be people like me on the Earth.

Yeah and unfortunately you are right. There will always be some racists who believe what they do is right and just.

This is just sad on so many levels, especially since you seem to believe thats a good thing.

Oransel wrote...

MOELANDER wrote...

Sorry, but those two things are pretty much the same once you heighten up the ante.

When Europe started to colonize the Americas, the indigenous people there were thought to be subhuman by our european standards and were treated like animals. Though I agree, that we must be wary of aliens that are contacting us, we do not necessarily need to dominate them. Peaceful coexistence is possible.

If a being exists, that is not human and has the same intelligence as one and is not entirely aggressive towards us we should not step into the same mistakes as our ancestors and exact our superiority complex on it. In our ancestors cause it was skin color, in the Mass Effect Universe's case it's Species.

Hmm... That was neccessary, I believe. Europeans were advancing Humanity through determination on the way of progress. Their work resulted in the modern civilization.

Wow, so you saying that taking perching up humans into concentration camps, called reservations in this case, was right and necessary to advance humanity through determination?

Are you even aware that this is the very same justification the NSDAP had? And guess what, they also advanced civilisation by creating a rocket fuel and other scientific discoveries which lead to us not only reaching the moon but also has saved thousands of thousands of lives by ways of their research into cold water protection suits and the effects of sonic flight and decompression.

Do those advancements really justify condeming a whole race to be living in infertile lands or using them as guinea pigs? And please, don't answer, because i really don't wanna hear your answer. Just think about it for a bit. Maybe, just maybe, there is a little hope left for a racist like you.

And seriously, do you really believe that this modern civilisation which seems to be heading down the gutter, by disregarding everything from human lives to enviroment for profit, in which we commit genocide on animals, devast whole regions, burn and cut down forrests that have been responsible for a huge percentage of our air supply in the past, missthreat our own neighbors.. and basically give a F about everything but ourselves,.. do you really believe this modern civilisation was worth extingushing numberous cultures which had a symbiotic lifestyle with this earth instead of a cancerous as our "modern civilisation" has?

Have you even taken the time to take a look at how the native americans are forced to live in their own country? While the immigrants run around and claim themselves to be "natives". Have you taken a look at Africa and what the "modern civilisation" did to them?

What you call civilisation has been one of the most barbaric things mankind did in all of its history. This so called Civilisation has uprooted and destroyed century old cultural structures under the assumption to be superior and left the uprooted civilisation in disarray and chaos for centuries to come. Followed by war, poverty and basically no means to survival on their own. They had been just fine for centuries before that so called "modern civilisation" came along.

And the worst thing is.. countries like the USA just continue the trend started by the europeans. Strutting about and believing bigger weapons equals superior culture and livestyle.

Oransel wrote...

saXMoNkI wrote... 

Then you sir are a troll and/or being deliberately contrary. No normal human being gets urges to rape and kill babies regardless of circumstance. There is no circumstance in which it is justifiable or rational to commit such actions.

He is rational, because he is keeping his urges in check and is not acting upon it. You can't judge people by what they think. You shoul look on what they do, Sociopaths are part of our society, whether you like it or not.

That doesn't mean these people should walk the street or at least not be required to go to regular councelings in order to protect the rest of mankind. The price for one slip up on said urges is a human life, and the likely hood of being able to go back to a normal life afterwards is next to 0, so its not just one slip up, people like that are most likely, once they acted on their urges and aren't stopped going on to keep acting on them until someone stops them.

Psychopaths might be a part of our lives, but that doesn't mean they should go unchecked. The price to pay for them loosing control of their urges is out of the question. Or are you really suggesting that the live of a baby or any human being should be toyed with, because it doesn't matter?

You seem more sick than i thought to beginn with. Please, get help, you need it. There is a line between being a racist and what you demonstrate here. You certainly have crossed that line and are heading towards the deep end.

Modifié par Kajan451, 15 mai 2012 - 04:38 .

[Reign Tsumiraki]

 

[sAxMoNkI]

Oransel wrote...

saXMoNkI wrote... 

Then you sir are a troll and/or being deliberately contrary. No normal human being gets urges to rape and kill babies regardless of circumstance. There is no circumstance in which it is justifiable or rational to commit such actions.

He is rational, because he is keeping his urges in check and is not acting upon it. You can't judge people by what they think. You shoul look on what they do, Sociopaths are part of our society, whether you like it or not.

Since when were sociopaths deemed normal? That's news to me. I didn't say such people didn't exist I said any NORMAL person would never dream of doing such a thing.
You're right that a person's thoughts are their own, but if that person chooses to voice those thoughts to someone else and thinks it is an acceptable topic to bring up in conversation they have a serious problem.

Kajan451 wrote...

That doesn't mean these people should
walk the street or at least not be required to go to regular councelings
in order to protect the rest of mankind. The price for one slip up on
said urges is a human life, and the likely hood of being able to go back
to a normal life afterwards is next to 0, so its not just one slip up,
people like that are most likely, once they acted on their urges and
aren't stopped going on to keep acting on them until someone stops them.

Psychopaths
might be a part of our lives, but that doesn't mean they should go
unchecked. The price to pay for them loosing control of their urges is
out of the question. Or are you really suggesting that the live of a
baby or any human being should be toyed with, because it doesn't matter?

You
seem more sick than i thought to beginn with. Please, get help, you
need it. There is a line between being a racist and what you demonstrate
here. You certainly have crossed that line and are heading towards the
deep end.

Precisely Kajan, well said.

Modifié par sAxMoNkI, 15 mai 2012 - 04:47 .

[Oransel]

Kajan451 wrote...

Yeah and unfortunately you are right. There will always be some racists who believe what they do is right and just.

This is just sad on so many levels, especially since you seem to believe thats a good thing.

Yes, I do believe that is a good thing to stand for interests of your species.

Kajan451 wrote...

Oransel wrote...

Hmm... That was neccessary, I believe. Europeans were advancing Humanity through determination on the way of progress. Their work resulted in the modern civilization.

Wow, so you saying that taking perching up humans into concentration camps, called reservations in this case, was right and necessary to advance humanity through determination?

Do those advancements really justify condeming a whole race to be living in infertile lands or using them as guinea pigs? And please, don't answer, because i really don't wanna hear your answer. Just think about it for a bit. Maybe, just maybe, there is a little hope left for a racist like you.

I see what you are implying here. No, I do not believe genocide is fair price for scientific advancements on that level. However, if those inventions were made anyway, even by the bad guys, why not use them? You can't blame technology for the origin of it's inventor.

Kajan451 wrote...

And seriously, do you really believe that this modern civilisation which seems to be heading down the gutter, by disregarding everything from human lives to enviroment for profit, in which we commit genocide on animals, devast whole regions, burn and cut down forrests that have been responsible for a huge percentage of our air supply in the past, missthreat our own neighbors.. and basically give a F about everything but ourselves,.. do you really believe this modern civilisation was worth extingushing numberous cultures which had a symbiotic lifestyle with this earth instead of a cancerous as our "modern civilisation" has?

Modern civilization is dying because of a cancer of leftist ideologies, as few people mention it. Progress, rationalism, family, religion, science, capitalism, patriotism... They were at the core of Western civilization. However, opponents of the greatest achievement of Humanity actively pervert it. socialists, eco activists, pagans, newage psychos and other elements... All this leftist media, art. I believe you liked "Avatar"? "Planet of Apes"? I am sure, you liked it. You like self destruction, you hate Humanity and you are appealing towards "nature", while I find that truly horrible. 

Oransel wrote...

He is rational, because he is keeping his urges in check and is not acting upon it. You can't judge people by what they think. You shoul look on what they do, Sociopaths are part of our society, whether you like it or not.

Kajan451 wrote... That doesn't mean these people should walk the street or at least not be required to go to regular councelings in order to protect the rest of mankind. The price for one slip up on said urges is a human life, and the likely hood of being able to go back to a normal life afterwards is next to 0, so its not just one slip up, people like that are most likely, once they acted on their urges and aren't stopped going on to keep acting on them until someone stops them.

Psychopaths might be a part of our lives, but that doesn't mean they should go unchecked. The price to pay for them loosing control of their urges is out of the question. Or are you really suggesting that the live of a baby or any human being should be toyed with, because it doesn't matter?

Hmm... I suggest you should make a research as I was talking about sociopaths, not psychopaths. Big difference, actually.

Kajan451 wrote...

You seem more sick than i thought to beginn with. Please, get help, you need it. There is a line between being a racist and what you demonstrate here. You certainly have crossed that line and are heading towards the deep end.

I do not think so. I am not alone, my ideas are shared by a lot of people worldwide. I may suggest that you are sick, but I won't. I believe in freedom of speech and that many opinions can exist. 

Modifié par Oransel, 15 mai 2012 - 06:51 .

[Pottumuusi]

Oransel wrote...

Pottumuusi wrote...

Oransel wrote...

As far as I know there is no law or forum requirement to tell me that being anti-alien is racist and forbidden, since, you know, we are not even sure aliens exist. You are complaining about me being racist towards fictional races, THAT is ridiculous.

It's a hypothetical and your viewpoint regarding the hypothetical is abhorrent.


This 'argumentum ad itsfictionsoshutup' is pretty fallacious, as shown here:

Person 1: "If there were no police I would go rape and murder some babies!"

Person 2: "I think you are a horrible person"

Person 1: "Well, law enforcement does exists so your opinion about me is silly and ridiculous since we are just talking about a fictional scenario!"

Can you see where the problem is?

No, I don't see any problem with Person 1 being rational. 

Yeah, okay.

Fine.

F*** it...

Thread over guys, everyone go home. Blatant troll is blatant.

Modifié par Pottumuusi, 15 mai 2012 - 06:45 .

[Tapkomet]

[Pottumuusi]

Tapkomet wrote...

Yeah, post ponies. Ffs.

[sAxMoNkI]

Oransel wrote...

Hmm... I suggest you should make a research as I was talking about sociopaths, not psychopaths. Bid difference, actually.

Kajan451 wrote...

You seem more sick than i thought to beginn with. Please, get help, you need it. There is a line between being a racist and what you demonstrate here. You certainly have crossed that line and are heading towards the deep end.

I do not think so. I am not alone, my ideas are shared by a lot of people worldwide. I may suggest that you are sick, but I won't. I believe in freedom of speech and that many opinions can exist. 

First bolded point: Which I'm sure you know all about as you have demonstrated yourself to be a STARTLINGLY good fit for the definition of a sociopath.

Second bolded point: You may be right that others share your views. Handily many of them have been correctly placed in suitably padded rooms.

[Oransel]

Your spam is pathetic.

[Reign Tsumiraki]

Oransel wrote...


Modern civilization is dying because of a cancer of leftist ideologies, as few people mention it. Progress, rationalism, family, religion, science, capitalism, patriotism... They were at the core of Western civilization. However, opponents of the greatest achievement of Humanity actively pervert it. socialists, eco activists, pagans, newage psychos and other elements... All this leftist media, art. I believe you liked "Avatar"? "Planet of Apes"? I am sure, you liked it. You like self destruction, you hate Humanity and you are appealing towards "nature", while I find that truly horrible. 

Oh no... Someone brought up religion and politics, in a thread based on trolling.

 


EDIT: Because of ponies.
 
 

Modifié par Reign Tsumiraki, 15 mai 2012 - 07:01 .

[Oransel]

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Oransel wrote...

Hmm... I suggest you should make a research as I was talking about sociopaths, not psychopaths. Bid difference, actually.

Kajan451 wrote...

You seem more sick than i thought to beginn with. Please, get help, you need it. There is a line between being a racist and what you demonstrate here. You certainly have crossed that line and are heading towards the deep end.

I do not think so. I am not alone, my ideas are shared by a lot of people worldwide. I may suggest that you are sick, but I won't. I believe in freedom of speech and that many opinions can exist. 

First bolded point: Which I'm sure you know all about as you have demonstrated yourself to be a STARTLINGLY good fit for the definition of a sociopath.

Second bolded point: You may be right that others share your views. Handily many of them have been correctly placed in suitably padded rooms.

1) Proofs please. Preferrably with the license of psychiatrist. 
2) Incorrect. It is policy. I agree, today is your day of anti-human philosophy. You call us insane minority. However, some time ago it was the opposite, as you were insane back then and we were the majority. We would be dominant ideology in future as well and you will be insane again. Medical definitions don't work in politics.

[Taboo]

I'm a leftist. Please enlighten me on how much you know about politics. I would love to talk with you about this.

Also you think that Avatar and Planet of the Apes are leftist films?

Do you understand that leftists hate liberals?

Do you know that Socialists and Communists are different?

[sAxMoNkI]

Oransel wrote...

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Oransel wrote...

Hmm... I suggest you should make a research as I was talking about sociopaths, not psychopaths. Bid difference, actually.

Kajan451 wrote...

You seem more sick than i thought to beginn with. Please, get help, you need it. There is a line between being a racist and what you demonstrate here. You certainly have crossed that line and are heading towards the deep end.

I do not think so. I am not alone, my ideas are shared by a lot of people worldwide. I may suggest that you are sick, but I won't. I believe in freedom of speech and that many opinions can exist. 

First bolded point: Which I'm sure you know all about as you have demonstrated yourself to be a STARTLINGLY good fit for the definition of a sociopath.

Second bolded point: You may be right that others share your views. Handily many of them have been correctly placed in suitably padded rooms.

1) Proofs please. Preferrably with the license of psychiatrist. 
2) Incorrect. It is policy. I agree, today is your day of anti-human philosophy. You call us insane minority. However, some time ago it was the opposite, as you were insane back then and we were the majority. We would be dominant ideology in future as well and you will be insane again. Medical definitions don't work in politics.

Definition of a sociopath: A person with a personality disorder manifesting itself in extreme antisocial attitudes and behavior and a lack of conscience.

Sounds pretty accurate in my books.
Also I can't even begin to fathom how my beliefs are anti-human (a riduculous assertion in itself, how can a human be anti-human?) purely because they do not line up with your meglomanical "humanity should dominate everything" leanings.

Get help.

Taboo-XX wrote...

I'm a leftist. Please enlighten me on how much you know about politics. I would love to talk with you about this.

Also you think that Avatar and Planet of the Apes are leftist films?

Do you understand that leftists hate liberals?

Do you know that Socialists and Communists are different?

Taboo trust me on this when I say this person is completely impossible to reason with. They are either trolling the living hell out of us or genuinely believe the sickening rhetoric they spout. I sincerely hope it's the former.

Modifié par sAxMoNkI, 15 mai 2012 - 07:05 .

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