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[M Hedonist]

This thread is derailing. We need a hero, fast!

[Hyperion II]

Sauruz wrote...

Oransel wrote...

Genetics would be the answer. Some genes are better, some are worse. No offense.

I gotta take back what I just wrote.
This is the stupidest thing I've ever read on this site.

Agreed.

[legion999]

[Pottumuusi]

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Oransel wrote...

Genetics would be the answer. Some genes are better, some are worse. No offense.

Oh do please tell me you are about to start a eugenics debate because that would just wonderful.

Jesus no... Eugenics debates aren't funny for the same reason it's not funny to watch an ant fight a boot.

[legion999]

Oransel wrote...

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Oransel wrote...

Genetics would be the answer. Some genes are better, some are worse. No offense.

Oh do please tell me you are about to start a eugenics debate because that would just wonderful.

But you are not throwing Miranda, product of eugenics, into the airlock, are you? 

I don't kill people because of their genes. Unlike you it seems.

[MOELANDER]

Holy smokes, this thread is real? I came back from retirement only because a friend told me that there was this thread where two trolls have a N azi-off and the rest are posting Spidermeme 67.

The Interwebz is a glorious place.

But I have to ask you Oransel and Catamantaloedis: Why did you choose to buy Mass Effect, a game where human supremacy is the theme for the secondary antagonists? Why did you buy a game, that is set in a galaxy where humans live in peace together with other races, if you hate the thought so much?

Why don't you play Master of Orion II and live out your universe-conquering dreams there, destroying all those "Animals"! Seriously, I know you are trolling us, but I remember African descendants being called animals in those days back 200 years ago.

You are seriously coming of as crazy racist fascists, do you really want that? The BSN can actually be a pretty nice community where we can let off steam and still not be sour about it, but if you continue like this it's bound to garner the attention of a mod...

To let Spidey say it:

Modifié par MOELANDER, 15 mai 2012 - 01:55 .

[The Night Mammoth]

Oransel wrote...

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Oransel wrote...

Genetics would be the answer. Some genes are better, some are worse. No offense.

Oh do please tell me you are about to start a eugenics debate because that would just wonderful.

But you are not throwing Miranda, product of eugenics, into the airlock, are you? 

Nothing wrong with throwing her into the airlock, she'll be pefectly safe there. 

[sAxMoNkI]

Oransel wrote...

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Oransel wrote...

Genetics would be the answer. Some genes are better, some are worse. No offense.

Oh do please tell me you are about to start a eugenics debate because that would just wonderful.

But you are not throwing Miranda, product of eugenics, into the airlock, are you? 

Try again, "Eugenics is the applied science or the bio-social movement which advocates the use of practices aimed at improving the genetic composition of a population". Unless Miranda is a population by herself then no Miranda is not a product of Eugenics, Miranda is the product of genetic engineering.

While yes genetic engineering applied to a population would be an example of Eugenics, you were specifically stating that humanity had 'better' genes naturally compared to anything else. Which is ridiculous.

[Jonathan Shepard]

For the Shepards that HATED all AI's, yeah, forcing EDI on the player was a bad move. As was the forcing of the EDI/Joker romance... that sh*t's crazy.

[legion999]

[The Night Mammoth]

Jonathan Shepard wrote...

For the Shepards that HATED all AI's, yeah, forcing EDI on the player was a bad move. As was the forcing of the EDI/Joker romance... that sh*t's crazy.

Simple way to solve that issue.

Don't activate Legion, kill the Geth, renegade or just don't talk to EDI, and don't help Joker and her htich up. 

[Oransel]

legion999 wrote...
I don't kill people because of their genes. Unlike you it seems.

Me? Killing someone because of genes? You are really trying hard to portray me as a somewhat of a naz*, don't you? I am not anything like that. I am just concerned about future of humanity. Political correctness sometimes go mad, you know. And no, I am not trying to portray TIM, I am fine with being myself, though I appreciate this character in ME2. In ME3 he is indoctrinated.

[The Night Mammoth]

Oransel wrote...

legion999 wrote...
I don't kill people because of their genes. Unlike you it seems.

Me? Killing someone because of genes? You are really trying hard to portray me as a somewhat of a naz*, don't you? I am not anything like that. I am just concerned about future of humanity. Political correctness sometimes go mad, you know. And no, I am not trying to portray TIM, I am fine with being myself, though I appreciate this character in ME2. In ME3 he is indoctrinated.

Then............ you literally have no argument to speak of. 

Good day.

[M Hedonist]

Oransel wrote...

But you are not throwing Miranda, product of eugenics, into the airlock, are you? 

I don't even think that needs to be commented in any other way, really.
People just have to read it and will instantly know what any reasonable human being will think of this, ahem, *argument*.

[Hyperion II]

Oransel wrote...

legion999 wrote...
I don't kill people because of their genes. Unlike you it seems.

Me? Killing someone because of genes? You are really trying hard to portray me as a somewhat of a naz*, don't you? I am not anything like that. I am just concerned about future of humanity. Political correctness sometimes go mad, you know. And no, I am not trying to portray TIM, I am fine with being myself, though I appreciate this character in ME2. In ME3 he is indoctrinated.

He dosn't need to. You do it yourself just fine.
If you don't like it then...

[Oransel]

Also, I have bought ME3 because I was promised 16 different endings and I was sure that one of them would be Shepard doing exactly as TIM wanted - securing human dominance in the Galaxy. That's why I kept Collector's Base, btw.

I am not a racist or nationalist. I am not even a homophobic. Any diversity inside Humanity is good and I have no preferances for any human race or nationality. I am pro-human and I am proud of it.

[M Hedonist]

Oransel wrote...

Also, I have bought ME3 because I was promised 16 different endings and I was sure that one of them would be Shepard doing exactly as TIM wanted - securing human dominance in the Galaxy. That's why I kept Collector's Base, btw.

But you can turn every living being in the galaxy into one single race at the end!
I thought you'd orgasm over that ending! Who else did Bioware make that ending for?

[legion999]

Oransel wrote...

legion999 wrote...
I don't kill people because of their genes. Unlike you it seems.

Me? Killing someone because of genes? You are really trying hard to portray me as a somewhat of a naz*, don't you? I am not anything like that. I am just concerned about future of humanity. Political correctness sometimes go mad, you know. And no, I am not trying to portray TIM, I am fine with being myself, though I appreciate this character in ME2. In ME3 he is indoctrinated.

"Trying hard"
"I am not trying anything, especially to be a troll. I am serious about the matter - Humanity is better than other races."
"You forgot 4) Never trust something entirely different from you. That means we should always be ahead of any alien form of life, strive to be better than them and make sure your race would advance. Straight out war is bad. Achieving dominance in the Galaxy later through using our potential is good."
"Javik was wrong, because, indeed, his race was homogenised in addition to their "Empire". Unlike Protheans, Humanity does not need other species to be diverse, we are already genetically and culturally diversed enough to include animals into our society. Our genetic diversity, our multi-nation system is what makes as not equal, but superior to others. To the point where Reapers themselves see us as a worthy opponent, as a master race..."
"I wonder what would you say when your home will be destroyed by aliens or robots. Yeah, let's embrace unity! Let's embrace diversity! When your home is burning..."
"I am serious actually. If Humanity will ever meet alien forms of life, there is almost no chance we would become friends. They are different, they are alien and will use whatever they can to subtly destroy us, either by culture domination or by military force. I am not warmonger, I believe that we should take Human interests above anything else when we will meet those animals and robots."
"Humanity is master race destined to rule the Galaxy. Numerous evidences of this are undoubtful. This leads to the fact that the worst enemy Humanity has ever faced - are alien sympathisers. Those who deliberately practice cross-species relationships or are weakening our economy and military strength by trading our sectrets. You can't kill the idea, Humanity will take it's place as a masters of the whole Galaxy and beyond..."

Yeah I'm not trying hard to see you in that way.

[Archontor]

Oransel wrote...

Also, I have bought ME3 because I was promised 16 different endings and I was sure that one of them would be Shepard doing exactly as TIM wanted - securing human dominance in the Galaxy. That's why I kept Collector's Base, btw.

I am not a racist or nationalist. I am not even a homophobic. Any diversity inside Humanity is good and I have no preferances for any human race or nationality. I am pro-human and I am proud of it.

As Kelly pointed out being pro human is not the same as being anti-alien. 

But whatevs you probably think gingers don't have souls anyway.

[Oransel]

Sauruz wrote...
But you can turn every living being in the galaxy into one single race at the end!
I thought you'd orgasm over that ending! Who else did Bioware make that ending for?

Nah. Humans should maintain purity of their genes.

[M Hedonist]

Oransel wrote...

Humanity is master race destined to rule the Galaxy. Numerous evidences of this are undoubtful. This leads to the fact that the worst enemy Humanity has ever faced - are alien sympathisers. Those who deliberately practice cross-species relationships or are weakening our economy and military strength by trading our sectrets. You can't kill the idea, Humanity will take it's place as a masters of the whole Galaxy and beyond...

That's where I honestly thought he was trying to be funny by blatantly copying Cata's xenophobia.

[sAxMoNkI]

Oransel wrote...

Also, I have bought ME3 because I was promised 16 different endings and I was sure that one of them would be Shepard doing exactly as TIM wanted - securing human dominance in the Galaxy. That's why I kept Collector's Base, btw.

I am not a racist or nationalist. I am not even a homophobic. Any diversity inside Humanity is good and I have no preferances for any human race or nationality. I am pro-human and I am proud of it.

Yet you are willing to denounce any alien or synthetic life is sub-par to humanity.

Racism:
rac·ismnoun /ˈrāˌsizəm/ 

1] The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races

2] Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on such a belief

Might wanna rethink the bolded part chief...

EDIT: I  grant you 'race' in its strictest definition refers to human races, though frankly its a non-issue as the sentiment still stands regardless of the division you choose to label it with.

Modifié par sAxMoNkI, 15 mai 2012 - 02:12 .

[Gemini1179]

I get it now. This is all entertainment. You guys had me going there for a bit. Thanks for the laugh OP and Oransel. I'm really only on the boards this morning cause my tab is in the bedroom and my evil Overlord herself doesn't want me playing SWTOR this early. But now she has fallen back to sleep and I've got dailies to run.

My final word: I find myself not caring about the EC or any DLC for ME3 to be honest. Haven't played the game in a month and have no desire to. Thanks BioWare.

[Goaliebot]

This thread has too many wanna-be aryan master race natsees and not enough Spiderman!

[Oransel]

As far as I know there is no law or forum requirement to tell me that being anti-alien is racist and forbidden, since, you know, we are not even sure aliens exist. You are complaining about me being racist towards fictional races, THAT is ridiculous.