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[DaJe]

Matchy Pointy wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

I'd say it's an Action RPG, leaning more towards the Action side of things. That particular subgenre is surprisingly broad when you think about it.

DaJe wrote...

I have no problem with better shooter mechanics, why would I?
I
have a problem with the increasing abandonment of core features of the
series, that could be characterized as RPG elements, such as choice,
exploration, non-linearity and customization.

ME3 lacks all of these elements more than the previous games and not just by a little.

Never got that whole thing regarding less customisation in ME3, the other things I get but not that. It has more customisation than ME2 did for one.

I'd say as far as customisation goes-

ME1>ME3>ME2

^ This.

Yes, sorry I was not clear about that. ME3 actually does have more customization than ME2.

[Allen Spellwaver]

Then Diablo is an action game while Battlefield 3 can be considered as an RPG.

[Allen Spellwaver]

slyguy200 wrote...

The dialog thing is not much of a big deal to me, but the lack of RPG elements has turned ME3 into more of a gears of war game with slightly more intractability, and a less interesting and cohesive story-line.

With all due respect,I want to ask what RPG element do you want apart from dialogue?inventory?mini-game?Or sucking-ass looting?

[Christianswe]

I think it´s a little sad that they take steps away from RPG elements, if you compare ME1 to ME 3.
I like good RPG elements. There is so much pontential in ME.

[I_eat_unicorns]

Seboist wrote...

CrustyBot wrote...

ME was always a shooter. It just happened to get less clunky and more derivative of it's contemporaries (Gears of War) as the series went on.

ME actually became more of a popamole shooter than Gears of War. Gears has actual tangible choices that result in alternating paths unlike ME's schtick where you "choose" which piece of throwaway dialogue or cutscene you get.

wtf? no it doesn't. Gears of war has the same story every time. No choices, and the story sucks. It's just a bunch of meaty biker dudes figintng underground monsters saying cheesy lines along the way.

[Darman]

ME is neither a shooter, nor an rpg. its the PERFECT mixture, that furthermore lets you decide what kind of gameplay you wanna have. Conecntrate on squad and powers or weapons and stuff. Choose the investigate options or let it be, quit the dialouges and move on to the next firefight. Thats what makes it so special, what gives it that great gameplay.

For me thats definitly a major part of ME and hell, if the game was a pure rpg, with camera form above and click to fight and all that ****, I probably would've never played it and never got into the whole thing.

So, am I happy it has got shooter elements, BW, never change this and make more games in this style!

[Allen Spellwaver]

Christianswe wrote...

I think it´s a little sad that they take steps away from RPG elements, if you compare ME1 to ME 3.
I like good RPG elements. There is so much pontential in ME.

IMO apart from dialogues,the only RPG element can be improved is the modding system.The modding slots should increase as we upgrating the guns.

[string3r]

Because it's now cover based?

[BatmanPWNS]

It ain't a shooter, just a very average RPG full of autodialogue.

[Michale_Jackson]

The Razman wrote...

... Mass Effect was always a "shooter". It always was an Action RPG.

Mass Effect was a hybrid " shooter-RPG" , no different than it's cousin Too Human.

[Vapaa]

ME has always been a very poor RPGs, ME1, 2 and 3 are just TPS with more dialogue than your average Gears

Modifié par Vapaä, 15 mai 2012 - 04:22 .

[Lisa_H]

If they had kept the third response in the dialgue tree and not used all that auto-dialogue(please let me decide what my Shepard will say) I would have not complaints about the gameplay changes, or less customization. But since they did reduce all the dialogue features I think ME3 was big step in the wrong direction

[napushenko]

is there anyone here who dont explore every coversation option in me 2 and me 1 ? think thats what auto d do for us without us clicking
and auto dialogue has been part of series from start. altough i must say i  prefer it to auto-conversation but still dont find it that big of a minus.

** 

largely because shepard says all the things i would say i think. or what i would expect him to say in given circumstances 

Modifié par napushenko, 15 mai 2012 - 07:54 .

[AlanC9]

napushenko wrote...

is there anyone here who dont explore every coversation option in me 2 and me 1 ? think thats what auto d do for us without us clicking

You mean that rather than have optional questions they've jsut integrated the info into the rest of the conversation? Yeah, I can see that in some places.

[tbb033]

Disappointed's probably a stronger word than I'd use, but I definitely prefer ME1 in many ways. If they'd just fixed the inventory system (a sort button would've gone a long way there) that's all they really needed to do instead of a total overhaul.

[Eclipse merc]

No, you were not the only one.

[Michale_Jackson]

tbb033 wrote...

Disappointed's probably a stronger word than I'd use, but I definitely prefer ME1 in many ways. If they'd just fixed the inventory system (a sort button would've gone a long way there) that's all they really needed to do instead of a total overhaul.

Inventory system wasn't nearly as bad as some real deal RPGs,

I went right on to Lost Odyssey after the first time I beat ME1, talk about trading in one inventory system for an even bigger inventory system that required more brain thinking on creating useful weapon enhancements.  


ME1 provided a nice watered down inventory.  Too bad Bioware got too lazy to carry it on to the sequel.

[Mike 9987]

Yes, you are the only one in the entire world. Out of every person to ever play mass effect, only you alone feel this way.

[SNascimento]

ME was always a shooter... ME1 was just bad as one.

[Barry Bathernak]

if you were alone then i don't know what to think anymore.

[Cainne Chapel]

Yeah the ME series has always been a Shooter-RPG or Action RPG as it were.

Sure in 1 and 2 and even 3 you can get by WITHOUT using your gun, but using them makes things a lot quicker. and given the situations makes more sense to me. Of course in 1 going without a gun was a lot easier since you could unload a biotic nuke-fest solo or a Tech-nuke fest solo, but that also made the game insanely easy in a sense, but then ME1 was also the only game to really have "god-like" weapons in the spectre gear that made you a one man army.....granted shepard himself is a one man army by the storyline...but still.

I personally have liked the gameplay shift in 2 and 3 over 1, now that is not to say I didn't like one, but its system was very clunky and you can tell it was their first "stab" at it. The systems in 2 and 3 feel a lot more fluid and conductive to firefights.

But as far as RPG elements go, I think each game did well in a certain respect, but it would be nice to have little mini games back like in ME1 and 2, keeping the modding and inventory system from ME3 and expanded it a bit (allowing us more "slots" on the weapons etc).

Outside of that all 3 games have their ups and downs. But still at their core, they're action RPGs where you spend a majority of the game shooting or killing things.

[bennyjammin79]

So you didn't like ME1 then?

[incinerator950]

Should have been dissapointed by ME1, you might want to uncover your eyes op.

[onchristieroad]

I play the caster types anyway, so no (I barely ever use my gun). My favourite games tend to be SRPGs anyway. I find a lot of point and click RPGs quite boring in terms of overall gameplay, but like 'pause and prepare' so I liked ME3s compromise.