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[Asante81]

Yes, something like that... *giggles*

Didn't think THAT much about it to come to a certain conclusion about it. It was just something like "idea-juggling"

But my gut feeling tells me there's someone (or maybe a small group of people) behind the creation of the blight. (And no, I don't think it's the "Maker" as he/she/it is described in the chant. Maybe the chant is just a hint at someone scheming all of this...)

[lv12medic]

The Darkspawn's objective is population control in my opinion. Which leads to interesting dilemma I guess...

The first three blights had around 100 year gaps between them, this one took another 400 years. And just as the blight is starting you end up stopping it before any major damage. So... theres a 400 year backlog of darkspawn and you end the blight before causing any really serious casualties to them? I sense a ticking time bomb problem here...

[Felene]

To make every female on Thedas a Broodmother.

[Varenus Luckmann]

What is the objective of humanity?
What is the objective of ferrets?
What is the objective of <insert choice-free parasite here>?

[Riot Inducer]

lv12medic wrote...

The Darkspawn's objective is population control in my opinion. Which leads to interesting dilemma I guess...
The first three blights had around 100 year gaps between them, this one took another 400 years. And just as the blight is starting you end up stopping it before any major damage. So... theres a 400 year backlog of darkspawn and you end the blight before causing any really serious casualties to them? I sense a ticking time bomb problem here...

Yep and thanks to the surface civilization's reluctance to help the dwarves put the torch to the darkspawn between blights it seems that eventually the darkspawn could simply completely overrun everyone by numbers alone. 

[Kalle88]

To make every female on Thedas a Broodmother.

This is probaly "the purpose" of darkspawn as a species, if they are unchecked. To simply destroy non-darkspawn and at the same time abduct females to breed more darkspawn.



The archdemon probaly possess some kind of intelligence higher than the animal level though.

The Darkspawn's objective is population control in my opinion.

This was a very cool idea. Just like with the Reapers in Mass Effect there could be a higher purpose to the slaughter.

[outcast_king]

We'll find out in DAO 2 when we have a hurlock companion!

[MBirkhofer]

Probably trying to impress a girl.

[Mnemnosyne]

Kalle88 wrote...

To make every female on Thedas a Broodmother.

This is probaly "the purpose" of darkspawn as a species, if they are unchecked. To simply destroy non-darkspawn and at the same time abduct females to breed more darkspawn.

The archdemon probaly possess some kind of intelligence higher than the animal level though.

Interestingly this would backfire on them because if they were ever fully successful, they would run out of females to turn into Broodmothers (and there's no indication that darkspawn can create broodmothers on their own).  Of course this wouldn't be the first example of a species that is capable of achieving enough "success" to ensure its own extinction.

[MBirkhofer]

Koyasha wrote...

Kalle88 wrote...

To make every female on Thedas a Broodmother.

This is probaly "the purpose" of darkspawn as a species, if they are unchecked. To simply destroy non-darkspawn and at the same time abduct females to breed more darkspawn.

The archdemon probaly possess some kind of intelligence higher than the animal level though.

Interestingly this would backfire on them because if they were ever fully successful, they would run out of females to turn into Broodmothers (and there's no indication that darkspawn can create broodmothers on their own).  Of course this wouldn't be the first example of a species that is capable of achieving enough "success" to ensure its own extinction.

Pssh, haven't you seen Jurassic park?

[DariusKalera]

The Chantry Revered Mother(s) asked a mage to devise a away that they could travel into the Fade and visit the Golden City so that they could find the maker and put to rest all the stories about him/her. They wanted to know the truth.



Unfortunately, something goes wrong and it is the Revered Mothers that are turned into the first Brood Mothers. These first Brood Mothers still have the desire to "convert" the world. But, they do not have the power to control the darkspawn themselves, they can only partially direct them. So the need a general, an Old God, to control them through telepathy. Since they can hear the "song" of the Old Gods, these first Brood Mothers are able to direct the darkspawn to dig them up and taint them. Once they are tainted, the Archdemons are able to be "aimed" by these first mothers just like the lesser darkspawn are. The actual control of the army remains with the archdemon.



Once the archdemon dies, the darkspawn scatter and can no longer be aimed by the brood mothers because there are too many and they are too far away. A new batch has to be birthed and aimed at the next sleeping Old God so that the process begins all over again.



By the way, the Chantry originally new all of this but covered it up by saying that the blame rested entirely with the mages and used it as an excuse to corral all of them. The Chant of Light was changed to reflect this as well.



Anyway, that's my theory, and yes, I know there are holes in it. I've been drinking.

[Taleroth]

Koyasha wrote...

Kalle88 wrote...

To make every female on Thedas a Broodmother.

This is probaly "the purpose" of darkspawn as a species, if they are unchecked. To simply destroy non-darkspawn and at the same time abduct females to breed more darkspawn.

The archdemon probaly possess some kind of intelligence higher than the animal level though.

Interestingly this would backfire on them because if they were ever fully successful, they would run out of females to turn into Broodmothers (and there's no indication that darkspawn can create broodmothers on their own).  Of course this wouldn't be the first example of a species that is capable of achieving enough "success" to ensure its own extinction.

There's no indication that Broodmothers age, grow old, and die.  Largely due to knowing nothing about them.  Given their unique nature, we can't assume anything.  You can only ensure extinction in the event you can ensure death.

Though, if we assume they require food, we can assume starvation.  They don't seem to be able to cultivate, but hey, maybe that's the pod crap on the walls.  Even canablism isn't going to work out for them indefinitely.

Modifié par Taleroth, 10 décembre 2009 - 03:45 .

[Cpl_Facehugger]

Taleroth wrote...

There's no indication that Broodmothers age, grow old, and die.  Largely due to knowing nothing about them.  Given their unique nature, we can't assume anything.  You can only ensure extinction in the event you can ensure death.

Doesn't the codex entry on broodmothers say that they can birth thousands of offspring over their lifetimes? If they were biologically immortal and free of things like age, the number of offspring they could theoretically birth would be infinite assuming there's enough food/resources and the broodmother doesn't die of unnatural causes like caveins or angry adventurers looking for loot. 

[Taleroth]

Cpl_Facehugger wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

There's no indication that Broodmothers age, grow old, and die.  Largely due to knowing nothing about them.  Given their unique nature, we can't assume anything.  You can only ensure extinction in the event you can ensure death.

Doesn't the codex entry on broodmothers say that they can birth thousands of offspring over their lifetimes? If they were biologically immortal and free of things like age, the number of offspring they could theoretically birth would be infinite assuming there's enough food/resources and the broodmother doesn't die of unnatural causes like caveins or angry adventurers looking for loot. 

I think that's a fair point.  However, at the same time, considering that the codex entry is from an in-universe perspective, I'd have to question the veracity of it.  Who is this person that managed to count the offspring of a single broodmother over the course of its entire life and come away to write about it?

[Asante81]

Taleroth wrote...

Cpl_Facehugger wrote...

Taleroth wrote...

There's no indication that Broodmothers age, grow old, and die.  Largely due to knowing nothing about them.  Given their unique nature, we can't assume anything.  You can only ensure extinction in the event you can ensure death.

Doesn't the codex entry on broodmothers say that they can birth thousands of offspring over their lifetimes? If they were biologically immortal and free of things like age, the number of offspring they could theoretically birth would be infinite assuming there's enough food/resources and the broodmother doesn't die of unnatural causes like caveins or angry adventurers looking for loot. 

I think that's a fair point.  However, at the same time, considering that the codex entry is from an in-universe perspective, I'd have to question the veracity of it.  Who is this person that managed to count the offspring of a single broodmother over the course of its entire life and come away to write about it?

The broodmother herself of course! Writing a diary... being read by the adventurers who killed her. What a question!

[EricHVela]

What little I can glimpse of it all:

Darkspawn serve as a punishment and eternal reminder to mankind (human, elf, dwarf, qunari) for their transgressions... if the Chantry version is true.

Otherwise, nobody really knows why they're doing what they're doing -- not even the Grey Wardens that can sometimes "hear" the archdemon speak.

[celdoloth]

My own theory is that the darkspawn are similar, though of course not identical, to the Borg from Star Trek. They seek to either convert (the females) or annihilate everything that is not them. They will only be content when the entirety of existence available to them is filled with nothing but darkspawn and blight.



The Borg were naturally far more effective and sophisticated about it, especially with integrating other cultures and technologies into their own, but I think the base drive is there. And as was said above, there is the whole hive mind with the Archdemon in control thing .

[Draconis6666]

DariusKalera wrote...

The Chantry Revered Mother(s) asked a mage to devise a away that they could travel into the Fade and visit the Golden City so that they could find the maker and put to rest all the stories about him/her. They wanted to know the truth.

Unfortunately, something goes wrong and it is the Revered Mothers that are turned into the first Brood Mothers. These first Brood Mothers still have the desire to "convert" the world. But, they do not have the power to control the darkspawn themselves, they can only partially direct them. So the need a general, an Old God, to control them through telepathy. Since they can hear the "song" of the Old Gods, these first Brood Mothers are able to direct the darkspawn to dig them up and taint them. Once they are tainted, the Archdemons are able to be "aimed" by these first mothers just like the lesser darkspawn are. The actual control of the army remains with the archdemon.

Once the archdemon dies, the darkspawn scatter and can no longer be aimed by the brood mothers because there are too many and they are too far away. A new batch has to be birthed and aimed at the next sleeping Old God so that the process begins all over again.

By the way, the Chantry originally new all of this but covered it up by saying that the blame rested entirely with the mages and used it as an excuse to corral all of them. The Chant of Light was changed to reflect this as well.

Anyway, that's my theory, and yes, I know there are holes in it. I've been drinking.

The biggest hole of course being the fact that the chantry didnt even exist till after the end of the first blight and the coming and death of Andraste

[Herr Uhl]

Draconis6666 wrote...
The biggest hole of course being the fact that the chantry didnt even exist till after the end of the first blight and the coming and death of Andraste

*puts on tin foil hat* It's all a conspiracy man, the chantry are really the ones that created the darkspawn and are now testing them out to see if they can make the ultimate weapon.

[Loc'n'lol]

Leftnt Sharpe wrote...

'for the lulz'.

This is what I wanted to say.

[DariusKalera]

Draconis6666 wrote...

DariusKalera wrote...

The Chantry Revered Mother(s) asked a mage to devise a away that they could travel into the Fade and visit the Golden City so that they could find the maker and put to rest all the stories about him/her. They wanted to know the truth.

Unfortunately, something goes wrong and it is the Revered Mothers that are turned into the first Brood Mothers. These first Brood Mothers still have the desire to "convert" the world. But, they do not have the power to control the darkspawn themselves, they can only partially direct them. So the need a general, an Old God, to control them through telepathy. Since they can hear the "song" of the Old Gods, these first Brood Mothers are able to direct the darkspawn to dig them up and taint them. Once they are tainted, the Archdemons are able to be "aimed" by these first mothers just like the lesser darkspawn are. The actual control of the army remains with the archdemon.

Once the archdemon dies, the darkspawn scatter and can no longer be aimed by the brood mothers because there are too many and they are too far away. A new batch has to be birthed and aimed at the next sleeping Old God so that the process begins all over again.

By the way, the Chantry originally new all of this but covered it up by saying that the blame rested entirely with the mages and used it as an excuse to corral all of them. The Chant of Light was changed to reflect this as well.

Anyway, that's my theory, and yes, I know there are holes in it. I've been drinking.

The biggest hole of course being the fact that the chantry didnt even exist till after the end of the first blight and the coming and death of Andraste

Or is that just what they want you to believe? Maybe they were PR gurus and were able to spin the historical facts to something they could use. 

[BewareTheDrow]

The blight, darkspawn, archdemons and old gods are all secret pawns of the reborn Lord of Murder, Bhaal. Its part of David Gaider's secret plan to tie Baldur's Gate 2 into Dragon Age. You'll see. <_<

[Adria Teksuni]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...
What is the objective of ferrets?

That's easy.  Ferrets have a multifaceted objective.

1. Always have food and fresh water.  Has to be fresh, or they glare and dump the water over.
2. Always have something to steal that annoys its owner.
3. Always have somewhere to hide.
4. Play hard, sleep harder.

As far the Darkspawn, the Archdemon keeps breaking talons and sending the hordes out to find a decent manicurist that does talon work.  Duh.

[The Capital Gaultier]

Statulos wrote...

What is the objetive of AIDS/Black Death/Ebola/...? Same as the Blight.

None of those things can have an objective, really.  However, it certainly is not the same as the darkspawn.  Whereas all real life living things (and viruses) exist to procreate, the darkspawn appear to want only death and destruction.  Diseases that are highly lethal are self-defeating, but the darkspawn don't seem to care that their ultimate objective would be their own demise.

[BigKevSexyMan]

Ever wonder what happened to the original darkspawn?(The original tevinter mages that went into the fade physically)



My guess is that it's them that's calling the shots when the darkspawn don't have an archdemon.