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Hey everybody,

I just have a quick question for all of you fans out there: How about a follow up video?
After the release of the video and the incredible feedback I've been receiving from everybody, I was thinking about doing a possible "part 2" or follow up to the video, now that I've learned a lot more from all of you.

There are some new pieces of evidence, some old, and some things I just blatantly left out because I wasn't sure about them. I'll be fair in my warning here: A lot of this will end up looking like it's "grasping at straws" even more than usual. But some of them are definitely interesting to discuss.

I've had a lot of people ask me "why didn't you include x", x being about 50 different things. So I figured, fine, why not include them if everybody wants an analysis of them?

But I don't want to go slaving away on another video without everybody's input first. This one would NOT be an hour and 20 minutes. It would likely be closer to, or even under, 20-30 minutes. But you never know, I could get carried away again...:whistle:

My biggest worry is that people are going to watch THAT video instead, thinking that is what everybody has been talking about, and be all "wtf is this nonsense".

Your input? =]

*edit*
If you don't know what I'm referencing, watch this first. :D

Then check out this interview.

Modifié par Ownaholic, 20 mai 2012 - 05:24 .


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shepskisaac

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Would it include admitting erros/mistakes/false information from the first video?

Modifié par IsaacShep, 15 mai 2012 - 05:17 .


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IsaacShep wrote...

And how about admitting mistakes from the first video?


No one is perfect. F*** off.

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And yes! I say go for it! Definitely! But you'll have to distinguish between the two, so like what you said about people only watching this video doesn't happen. 

I think we could make a list here of all the other thing you left out/need to add in the new/follow up video, and then you can take that and pick and choose or just use all of it. But some lists would certainly go a long way to help you, I'm sure.

And there's nothing wrong with a second video with some of the 'secondary' evidence, or new evidence, or evidence you just didn't know about. Its called covering all the bases, and I'm fine with that. I say, go for it.

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Makrys wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

And how about admitting mistakes from the first video?


No one is perfect. F*** off.

Ain't you charming? :wizard:

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I'd watch it. I didn't buy into indoctrination theory, still haven't been convinced, but it's not a terrible argument and video was well done.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Makrys wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

And how about admitting mistakes from the first video?


No one is perfect. F*** off.

Ain't you charming? :wizard:



Coming from someone who b*****s about the IT every chance they get. Thanks for the compliment. :)

Modifié par Makrys, 15 mai 2012 - 05:21 .


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For me, you touched on the one thing that I feel is the best evidence possible for IT and that's the gunshot wound that the camera purposely makes a huge deal of.

That to me is the most solid thing going for the IT, but if people want it, I say go for it... I don't think it's necessary though.

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Makrys wrote...
Coming from someone who b****** about the IT every chance they get. Thanks for the compliment. :)

I never tell people to **** off when discussing IT ^_^

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

For me, you touched on the one thing that I feel is the best evidence possible for IT and that's the gunshot wound that the camera purposely makes a huge deal of.

That to me is the most solid thing going for the IT, but if people want it, I say go for it... I don't think it's necessary though.


Its not neccesary, but he's just offering. And I think the idea is fine. If he just wants to try to cover as much as he can, and we support him, why not?

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You did a seriously good job on the first one. I would love a part 2. Especially if you include your thoughts on the "predator" issue.

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IsaacShep wrote...

Makrys wrote...
Coming from someone who b****** about the IT every chance they get. Thanks for the compliment. :)

I never tell people to **** off when discussing IT ^_^


Forgive the use of language. 

Modifié par Makrys, 15 mai 2012 - 05:26 .


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IsaacShep wrote...

Would it include admitting erros/mistakes/false information from the first video?


He had very few....barely a couple and even then they seemed so minor that they probably aren't worth mentioning.

As for part II....yeah I'd be all for it just make sure you start with the warning that this is a filler-in on the more outlandish bits of the theory so in interested in what the real deal is about to go to the first. But that's easy for me to say and you likely will catch quite a bit of flames about why touch x because it's so lame or whatever. Damed if you do damned if you don't so it's purely up to you....all I can promise is that I'll watch it and press the "Like" button.

Modifié par Darth_Trethon, 15 mai 2012 - 05:26 .


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Makrys wrote...

Forgive the use of language. But Anti-ITists get to me when they act like dicks on a regular basis.

Right now I see an ITer acting like a dick

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IsaacShep wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Forgive the use of language. But Anti-ITists get to me when they act like dicks on a regular basis.

Right now I see an ITer acting like a dick


You came in here solely to make fun of his last video. And I'm defending him, so I'm the dick? Sure. Love your logic. Bye bye

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Btw, Ownaholic, I would just like to add... you see what you've started? Look at how many of your sigs are spread throughout the forums? You are making quite an impact. ;)

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

For me, you touched on the one thing that I feel is the best evidence possible for IT and that's the gunshot wound that the camera purposely makes a huge deal of.

That to me is the most solid thing going for the IT, but if people want it, I say go for it... I don't think it's necessary though.


Of course it makes a huge deal of it. It's there to indicate Shepard's dying.:crying:

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Makrys wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Forgive the use of language. But Anti-ITists get to me when they act like dicks on a regular basis.

Right now I see an ITer acting like a dick


You came in here solely to make fun of his last video. And I'm defending him, so I'm the dick? Sure. Love your logic. Bye bye


This^^^ If not interested in the IT get out and go to a thread where people are descussing something you do care about.

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OdanUrr wrote...

IronSabbath88 wrote...

For me, you touched on the one thing that I feel is the best evidence possible for IT and that's the gunshot wound that the camera purposely makes a huge deal of.

That to me is the most solid thing going for the IT, but if people want it, I say go for it... I don't think it's necessary though.


Of course it makes a huge deal of it. It's there to indicate Shepard's dying.:crying:


Right where Shepard shot Anderson. ;)

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

This^^^ If not interested in the IT get out and go to a thread where people are descussing something you do care about.

Keep up the good image of ITers!

Modifié par IsaacShep, 15 mai 2012 - 05:32 .


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Issac, if you would like to hear my comments on some of the complaints about the first video, then you should consider listening to my radio interview that's happening in about 20 minutes, and will be published later this week. (I'll post a link). The interviewer picked 10 questions from the fans for me to answer, and some of your concerns could be addressed.

As for the video itself, it would be moving forward rather than looking back. I am not going to outright contradict myself in another video. I stand by the artistic integrity of the first video. (See what I did there?)


To everybody else, sure a list would be cool to have as a reference, just in case there's anything on it that I've missed. I'd likely make this one "less epic" as the direct result of it not being as long or holding as strong evidence.

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To indicate Shepard's dying? Yet if you pick Destroy with the right circumstances he/she lives?

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Ownaholic wrote...

Issac, if you would like to hear my comments on some of the complaints about the first video, then you should consider listening to my radio interview that's happening in about 20 minutes, and will be published later this week. (I'll post a link). The interviewer picked 10 questions from the fans for me to answer, and some of your concerns could be addressed.

As for the video itself, it would be moving forward rather than looking back. I am not going to outright contradict myself in another video. I stand by the artistic integrity of the first video. (See what I did there?)


To everybody else, sure a list would be cool to have as a reference, just in case there's anything on it that I've missed. I'd likely make this one "less epic" as the direct result of it not being as long or holding as strong evidence.


Does 'less epic' mean no more 1080p? I like my crystal clear screen getting naked for me. :D

I mean...

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Allen Spellwaver

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Polishing the original video is enough IMO.

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I think a doc covering the whole ending fallout would be cool after EC comes out.

Might need more than 1 part though.