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[StElmo]

Ownaholic wrote...

Hey everybody,

I just have a quick question for all of you fans out there: How about a follow up video?
After the release of the video and the incredible feedback I've been receiving from everybody, I was thinking about doing a possible "part 2" or follow up to the video, now that I've learned a lot more from all of you.

There are some new pieces of evidence, some old, and some things I just blatantly left out because I wasn't sure about them. I'll be fair in my warning here: A lot of this will end up looking like it's "grasping at straws" even more than usual. But some of them are definitely interesting to discuss.

I've had a lot of people ask me "why didn't you include x", x being about 50 different things. So I figured, fine, why not include them if everybody wants an analysis of them?

But I don't want to go slaving away on another video without everybody's input first. This one would NOT be an hour and 20 minutes. It would likely be closer to, or even under, 20-30 minutes. But you never know, I could get carried away again...

My biggest worry is that people are going to watch THAT video instead, thinking that is what everybody has been talking about, and be all "wtf is this nonsense".

Your input?

I think this would be awesome. If IT IS true, you will be marking a very important point in Narrative history.

If IT isn't true, well, you at least provided some solice and added some richness to an otherwise depressing time for BioWare.

[gendocrono]

I will watch your second video Ownaholic [and spread it on french BSN]

Thanks for your work, hold on !

We may agree or not with IT or even with your first video, but the most important thing is that the press (web) talked about your documentary, so BioWare could have notice it.
The major aim of the fans is that BioWare listen to us, or could keep an eye on what we are saying for mouths.

We sent letters, we made video, we made longs topics on forums but few of our initiatives have been noticed (as far as i know).

So whatever you do, dot it, you have my support ! (french fleet still around guys !)

Edit : here, on the french BSN, hope some support from them and spread the word
http://social.biowar.../index/12081625 
and here (french fan make a similar work with a very constructive topic:
http://social.biowar...825/45#12081766 

Modifié par gendocrono, 16 mai 2012 - 10:52 .

[Ownaholic]

ll PAYASO323 ll wrote...

If you go for a Part 2, i will watch that ****, homie.

Shiet homie, my smile be gleamin' son.

[ubermensch007]

Ownaholic wrote...

Hey everybody,

I just have a quick question for all of you fans out there: How about a follow up video?
After the release of the video and the incredible feedback I've been receiving from everybody, I was thinking about doing a possible "part 2" or follow up to the video, now that I've learned a lot more from all of you.

There are some new pieces of evidence, some old, and some things I just blatantly left out because I wasn't sure about them. I'll be fair in my warning here: A lot of this will end up looking like it's "grasping at straws" even more than usual. But some of them are definitely interesting to discuss.

I've had a lot of people ask me "why didn't you include x", x being about 50 different things. So I figured, fine, why not include them if everybody wants an analysis of them?

But I don't want to go slaving away on another video without everybody's input first. This one would NOT be an hour and 20 minutes. It would likely be closer to, or even under, 20-30 minutes. But you never know, I could get carried away again...

My biggest worry is that people are going to watch THAT video instead, thinking that is what everybody has been talking about, and be all "wtf is this nonsense".

Your input?

Who are you and why does your OP assume that anyone who strolls on by this thread knows anything about an Indoctrination Video that you made?

I wouldn't mind giving it a look.If you provide a link

[balance5050]

 Yeah, Ownaholic, I guess not everyone is savvy to your vid that was featured in Kotaku.

 

[aaron baba]

Your videos are very well made - I'd love to see a part two!
Be sure to link your original video in the description and through annotations.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

@Cyberstrike... How do you feel about IDT now?

It works only if there were a real ending that follows it like fighting Harbinger, or the Crucible does something to get rid of the Reapers, etc. 

If it ends with Shepard waking up in the ruins of London or the Citadel in the arms of the LIs and nothing else happens, then it's just as pointless as the current endings. No offence, but that is just my opinion.

[IronSabbath88]

balance5050 wrote...

 Sorry it took so long, I can't seem to actually find a source for the first leak, but it basically had four different ways the conduit scene played out. I found this quote but if anyonecan find the source let me know cause it may not be legit.


"Designer Cutscene:
Shepard comes to.
A handful of survivors from hammer, including Anderson and the henchmen, have gotten bogged down just a few dozen meters from the conduit and have dug in, but are dying quickly.
Suddenly, the Normandy streaks overhead, evading fire fromthe Reaper and blowing a hole in the Reaper enemies' lines.
Anderson shouts for Shepard to make a run for it, and orders the rest of Hammer to cover him."

The outcomes to this where as follows.
1: "Shepard and Anderson approach the conduit's beam. Shepard gets in, but Anderson is grabbed by a husk. Shepard turns to help, but before he can do anything, the beam activates, whisking Shepard away to the Citadel. On the other side, Shepard tears the metal from his leg and casts it aside, and then injects himself with Medigel."

2:"Shepard comes to. Anderson is dragging him forward. A jagged, bloody piece of metal is sticking out of his thigh. The conduit anchor retracts, stranding the henchmen. Shepard tries to walk, but his leg buckles. Anderson hands Shepard his pistol, and lifts Shepard's arm around his neck, supporting his leg. The two begin to shuffle towards the conduit beam."

3: "Designer Cutscene: Shepard limps to the conduit, and takes one final look around for other survivors. Seeing none, he enters the beam and is transported to the citadel."

4: "Shepard regains consciousness. He's bloody, and obviously badly injured. The Reaper is overhead, blasting away at retreating elements of Hammer. Shepard looks around: he's surrounded by burning vehicles and corpses, alone. He reaches for a syrette of medigel, but finds them broken or empty. Determined, he struggles to his feet, and starts limping towards the conduit." 

Again, this isn't souced, so I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LEGIT, if anyone can confirm somehow, I would appreciatte it.


And if you guys can see, it looks like there is indeed a metal rod peirced through Shep's leg.

http://thundermods.n...ith/ME3/hit.png 

 


EDIT: OH yeah, Credit to MegumiAsuza for the pic.

EDIT2: I doubt that the Hammer soldiers were reffeed to as "henchmen", might be paraphrased, got this quote from here, this person doesn't seem aware of the metal in the leg's significants so I wonder were this person got the information from. 
http://www.forumopol...=105842&page=10 

EDIT3: I guess the gamefiles refer to to your squadmates as "henchmen" so the script above is a little more legit than I originally thought.

You know what else? That part of the Normandy streaking overhead actually fits with the cut Joker line about "can't let you guys have all the fun"

[Siibi]

I'd watch the follow up video, the first one was good.

[Pockydon]

Yes definitely, I loved the first vid, and would love to see more evidence. Get to work mister!

[TiminatorT2000]

Domanese wrote...

I have another idea. Why not get someone who can properly argue against the Indoctrination Theory and the plausible points made in the first. And Im not saying that because I hate the theory but because I wanna hear the other side of the speculation. All too often I see people whom constantly either defend the theory blindly or those who attack it without context. Let's try and fix that. And that way neither side looks like a bunch of biased fanatics.

Well people who don't believe IT can't really be fanatics, IT is not proven in any sense of the word.All it really has is some circumstantial evidence. 

But if you want here's a vid that in explain why the IT ending is bad in general.

 

[Galifreya]

I would love another video. Or perhaps just a re-edited, toned down version of your first video. As in, no more "booyahs"... c.c And fix your mistakes. You have plenty of good info to work with, you just got some details wrong. Again, I'd like to mention the Admiral Anderson thing. Several people call him that throughout the game. It's not new when the subtitles label him that. The "admiral" just isn't there all the time.

[CARL_DF90]

Hey, OP. I hope you caught my references to indoctrination's effects in the novel Retribution.

[Ownaholic]

Bumping to get people's input.

[Unit-Alpha]

IsaacShep wrote...

Would it include admitting erros/mistakes/false information from the first video?

So, in your opinion, everything in the video, right?

Yeah, very underhanded of you.

[DannyDarko]

Well I loved your first video, was very thorough and put together really well in my opinion and you make a really compelling argument I gotta say. A follow-up would be great, maybe include counter-arguments against IT but you've convinced me already that this theory has very strong ground and I eagerly look forward to Part 2.

[Omega2079]

Watched the first vid, op. Would so if you did a second.

[Humakt83]

Ownaholic wrote...

Bumping to get people's input.

Did you take this into account? http://social.biowar.../index/11995829

Footstep sounds, by my experience, are added to the Normandy's captain quarters after attacking Cerberus Headquarters.

[RavenEyry]

Ownaholic wrote...

Bumping to get people's input.

One of the more interesting recent discoveries from the rabid theorists is that during the confrontation with Anderson and TIM both the subtitle script and the code says that they both say every line to Shepard, even when it sounds like they're speaking to each other.

[Kem1995]

Just watched it all, was a great vid to watch. Lots of good points explained well, especially the dead bodies and clothes along with background scenes etc.

[Snout]

Don't keep it to '20 or 30 minutes' unless you really have to.

I have no problem with a well rounded 90 minute documentary and actually prefer them to short and to the point ones.

[Fingertrip]

I'd love to see a part 2 !

[Kem1995]

Any idea if part 2 is going to be made or is being made?

And I'm with the Snout, try not make it to a time restriction, cover everything you have to