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[Kaelef]

IsaacShep wrote...

Kaelef wrote...

FINALLY!  SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THE TRUTH!!

I knew it ages ago but I was afraid you wouldn't believe me

Totes believe you, man.  Totes.

[incinerator950]

TIM's eyes were explained as Turian Implants.

[Kaelef]

Makrys wrote...

Um... there is such a thing as indoctrinated eyes. The CE Guide specificly has a section devoted to 'its all in the eyes'. Where Bioware details that the eyes of an indoctrinated slave have a particular pattern of 3 orbs surrounding a centric circle. So, yes, you can look at someone's eyes and determine if they are indoctrinated.

That would make Saren not indoctrinated:




And it would make Matriarch Benezia not indoctrinated:




And pretty much everyone else in the game with the exception of TIM and EDI would be not indoctrinated.  

The fact that TIM and EDI have similar eye patterns may be because they were likely both created by Cerberus.

TIMMAY:



EDI-MONSTER:



But even then - they're only similar; certainly not the same.


Of course, non of this explains Harby's one good eye...

Modifié par Kaelef, 15 mai 2012 - 08:23 .

[Kaelef]

incinerator950 wrote...

TIM's eyes were explained as Turian Implants.

That's interesting.  I would've expected them to look like Saren's, then, but they're pretty different.

[JyrikGauldy]

Kaelef wrote...

JyrikGauldy wrote...

Lyrebon wrote...

They're not indoctrinated eyes. They're synthetic implants that the Illusive Man and Dr. Eva shared because, *gasp*, they used the same supplier that manufactured those eyes (ie. Cerberus).

but how did saren have them?

They're not the same.  They just look very similar if you don't look closely.

oops, i guess i was misinformed

[JyrikGauldy]

Kaelef wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Um... there is such a thing as indoctrinated eyes. The CE Guide specificly has a section devoted to 'its all in the eyes'. Where Bioware details that the eyes of an indoctrinated slave have a particular pattern of 3 orbs surrounding a centric circle. So, yes, you can look at someone's eyes and determine if they are indoctrinated.

That would make Saren not indoctrinated:




And it would make Matriarch Benezia not indoctrinated:




And pretty much everyone else in the game with the exception of TIM and EDI would be not indoctrinated.  

The fact that TIM and EDI have similar eye patterns may be because they were likely both created by Cerberus.

TIMMAY:



EDI-MONSTER:



But even then - they're only similar; certainly not the same.


Of course, non of this explains Harby's one good eye...

maybe their eyes might be different if you look at pics later in the game, not sure though

[JyrikGauldy]

Kaelef wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Um... there is such a thing as indoctrinated eyes. The CE Guide specificly has a section devoted to 'its all in the eyes'. Where Bioware details that the eyes of an indoctrinated slave have a particular pattern of 3 orbs surrounding a centric circle. So, yes, you can look at someone's eyes and determine if they are indoctrinated.

That would make Saren not indoctrinated:




And it would make Matriarch Benezia not indoctrinated:




And pretty much everyone else in the game with the exception of TIM and EDI would be not indoctrinated.  

The fact that TIM and EDI have similar eye patterns may be because they were likely both created by Cerberus.

TIMMAY:



EDI-MONSTER:



But even then - they're only similar; certainly not the same.


Of course, non of this explains Harby's one good eye...

i think saren's eyes might look different towards the end of the game, not sure though

[Kaelef]

JyrikGauldy wrote...

i think saren's eyes might look different towards the end of the game, not sure though

Here they are at the very end (during the final battle in the Citadel).



Looks like a more glowy version of the earlier snapshot.  Still different from TIM and EDI.


For comparison's sake, here are Bette Davis' eyes...

Modifié par Kaelef, 16 mai 2012 - 12:30 .

[Dont Kaidan Me]

Kaelef wrote...

I think she has Betty Davis eyes.

Winner.
That probably went over collective heads.

By the way. I keep reading about TIM's eyes indicating a sign of indoctrination. Hasn't he always had these eyes? He wasn't "indoctrinated" until ME3 supposedly so....Is there some sort of supplementary reading that gives us the reason for his eyes?

ETA: Trigger happy on the submit button:

incinerator950 wrote...

TIM's eyes were explained as Turian Implants.

Could someone elaborate? And how would I have discovered this information?

Modifié par Dont Kaidan Me, 16 mai 2012 - 01:03 .

[Kaelef]

Dont Kaidan Me wrote...

Kaelef wrote...

I think she has Betty Davis eyes.

Winner.
That probably went over collective heads.

I'm content to just sit here amusing myself... 

By the way. I keep reading about TIM's eyes indicating a sign of indoctrination. Hasn't he always had these eyes? He wasn't "indoctrinated" until ME3 supposedly so....Is there some sort of supplementary reading that gives us the reason for his eyes?

ETA: Trigger happy on the submit button:

incinerator950 wrote...

TIM's eyes were explained as Turian Implants.

Could someone elaborate? And how would I have discovered this information?

He's had them since before we first meet him in ME2.  I assume the "Turian implant" bit comes from one of the books, as I don't remember seeing it anywhere in-game or in the comics.

[jules_vern18]

JyrikGauldy wrote...

Watch this video (couldnt find a pic) and pause at around 1:30. Put in fullsscreen or high quality if you must.



I noticed this last night while finishing a second runthrough. I went back on youtube later and looked at her eyes during different conversations, but i cant really tell if she had them or not, i could only notice this during the squadmate goodbyes. Am i missing something, what do you guys think?

EDIT: when i say "indoctrinated eyes" i mean the eyes the illusive man has, a person who is indoctrination, and the eyes of shepard when he choses Synthesis or Control.

It's because the eyes are tech.  Just like TIM's, just like Shepard's (under the surface).  It's not indoctrination.  Look at a close-up of saren's eyes - not the same pattern at all.

[Aaleel]

Exactly how long has TIM been indoctrinated, his eyes looked exactly the same in ME2?

[Dont Kaidan Me]

Kaelef wrote...

Dont Kaidan Me wrote...

Kaelef wrote...

I think she has Betty Davis eyes.

Winner.
That probably went over collective heads.

I'm content to just sit here amusing myself... 

By the way. I keep reading about TIM's eyes indicating a sign of indoctrination. Hasn't he always had these eyes? He wasn't "indoctrinated" until ME3 supposedly so....Is there some sort of supplementary reading that gives us the reason for his eyes?

ETA: Trigger happy on the submit button:

incinerator950 wrote...

TIM's eyes were explained as Turian Implants.

Could someone elaborate? And how would I have discovered this information?

He's had them since before we first meet him in ME2.  I assume the "Turian implant" bit comes from one of the books, as I don't remember seeing it anywhere in-game or in the comics.

Huh. Intrigued...
1. Why?
2. How do they translate into Turian eyes? Or is it Turian tech? Or implanted by a Turian?
3. I'm scared.

[Dean_the_Young]

jijeebo wrote...

"Help me doctor, quick!"

"What's wrong??"

"My eyes are indoctrinated... I can't stop eyeing up Harbinger from accross the bar!"


Seriously though, no such thing as indoc eyes. That blueness is indicative of reaper tech, and maybe Eva was based off of Reaper tech like EDI.

It isn't even Reaper-tech in particular. Just robot eyes.

[20x6]

Kaelef wrote...

It'd be kind of a give-away if all you had to do was look at someone's eyes to tell they're indoctrinated, don't you think?

I try to tell people on acid trips something almost on the same lines as this.
They don't seem to care....

Modifié par 20x6, 16 mai 2012 - 01:37 .

[KiroKatashi]

HYR 2.0 wrote...

Indoctrination-Theorize ALL THE THINGS!!!

Well that's what happens when there is "Lots of speculation from everyone!"

Modifié par KiroKatashi, 16 mai 2012 - 01:39 .

[Fingertrip]

Yes people, there are things called "Indoctrinated Eyes". Saren and the Illusive Man had them. (No, it's not prosthetics eyes on Illusive Mans eyes, they change after coming in-contact with a Reaper Artifact *gee wizz*)

The eyes for EDI is merely because EVA(Or EVE?) was used by Reaper-Tech as well. If she's under the direct influence of it, is anyones guess however.

Debunked.

[Icinix]

To take the attention away from her landing tunnel and fuel tanks.

[Kaelef]

Fingertrip wrote...

Yes people, there are things called "Indoctrinated Eyes". Saren and the Illusive Man had them. (No, it's not prosthetics eyes on Illusive Mans eyes, they change after coming in-contact with a Reaper Artifact *gee wizz*)

DO NOT PASS GO.  DO NOT COLLECT $200.

[jijeebo]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

jijeebo wrote...

"Help me doctor, quick!"

"What's wrong??"

"My eyes are indoctrinated... I can't stop eyeing up Harbinger from accross the bar!"


Seriously though, no such thing as indoc eyes. That blueness is indicative of reaper tech, and maybe Eva was based off of Reaper tech like EDI.

It isn't even Reaper-tech in particular. Just robot eyes.

God really? I was told they turned that way after he grabbed a reaper device that was turning someone into a husk or something.

So I assumed that the wierd scion eyes were indicative of someone having been molested by reaper tech.


But now i'm seeing Turian implants and i'm confused.

[Joe Del Toro]

Wait, no, it makes sense. What does 'Indoctrination' begin with?

AN EYE! 



Yeah, shamefulB)

[Kaelef]

jijeebo wrote...

God really? I was told they turned that way after he grabbed a reaper device that was turning someone into a husk or something.

So I assumed that the wierd scion eyes were indicative of someone having been molested by reaper tech.
But now i'm seeing Turian implants and i'm confused.

To be fair, they do suggest it's part of the physical reaper conversion to husk form in Mass Effect Evolution.  It's just that it's dumb because it doesn't make sense and all the other evidence in the actual games contradicts this, so I'd say that bit was an "oopsie" by the artist.

I don't know if they mention it in any of the novels.

Joe Del Toro wrote...

Wait, no, it makes sense. What does 'Indoctrination' begin with?

AN EYE! 



Yeah, shameful

ouch.

Modifié par Kaelef, 16 mai 2012 - 01:59 .

[Dont Kaidan Me]

jijeebo wrote...
God really? I was told they turned that way after he grabbed a reaper device that was turning someone into a husk or something.

So I assumed that the wierd scion eyes were indicative of someone having been molested by reaper tech.
But now i'm seeing Turian implants and i'm confused.

What is going on!!! My head hurts.

Kaelef wrote...
To be fair,

NO. Don't be fair. Be ruthless.

[Dean_the_Young]

jijeebo wrote...

God really? I was told they turned that way after he grabbed a reaper device that was turning someone into a husk or something.

So I assumed that the wierd scion eyes were indicative of someone having been molested by reaper tech.


But now i'm seeing Turian implants and i'm confused.

He lost his eyes due to the Reaper device, but his replacement eyes were actually from the Turians iirc. The eyes being Reaper tech is just a fan assumption-confusion.

It's similar to the idea that Shepard (or Edi's EVA-body) has any Reaper tech inside it: it's a popular fanon idea in some circles, but one never brought up in the game.

[Ang3l o Xn6]

people are crazy, they're no indoctrinated eyes, it's just a fan base theory ( clever but still a fanfic ).

Saren, Bénézia, the girl in " arrival '' DLC .... all of them have been indoctrinated but no one have that " indoctrinated eyes " the blue eyes is just reaper tech ....