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justafan wrote...

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It just isn't Mass Effect without Team Dextro. Tali and Garrus are hugely popular, thus they get to be in all the games. The Quarian/Geth war was obviously going to be a major arch in ME3, and Tali is essential to that, so she was going to be a big character regardless, and due to her popularity it makes sense to bring her back on the Normandy. Jack on the other hand never had that kind of following, and a lot of people didn't like her in ME2 unless they took the time to romance her. She was great in ME3, and in her short appearance had a lot of character development, but it seems highly unlikely she was replaced by Tali considering she was never all that important to the plot or a fan-favorite.


she does have a huge following but their not as.....lets say dedicated no offense talimancers


Ya, I guess I should have phrased that better, but I do think it is safe to say that her popularity exceeds Jack's, and likely to a noticable degree.  It would have been great to have her in ME3, don't get me wrong, but I think the better move was to include Tali if both were not an option  (fingers crossed for ME2 Squad DLC at some point).

yes I want me2 squad dlc too

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JustOneGuy wrote...

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HAY
U GUYS ARE DUMB

HURRHURR


But seriously, you guys have to learn, that your opinion is just one of many!

actually its more....

one of NONE :wub:

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Ummm.

What? Clarification is needed.


You'll have to wait for the extended cut. B)

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Fenrisfil wrote...

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Ummm.

What? Clarification is needed.


You'll have to wait for the extended cut. B)


Funny buisness.

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alec1898 wrote...

JustOneGuy wrote...

darthrevaninlight wrote...

HAY
U GUYS ARE DUMB

HURRHURR


But seriously, you guys have to learn, that your opinion is just one of many!


I know right, you're like, JustOneGuy.


Eh? Eeeeh? I thought it was clever.


It was indeed lol Image IPB

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garrusfan1 wrote...

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The Quarian/Geth war was obviously going to be a major arch in ME3, and Tali is essential to that,


How is she essential in any way? you can get that arch done even if she died in ME2. That doesn't make her look very "essential" to me. 



Her role is foreshadowed in ME2, after her loyalty she reveals she is being vetted as a replacement for her father, her loyalty mission is also directly tied in to the conflict thus making her important to it.



That doesn't mean anything since you can still get the optimal outcome without her. She isn't essential. 


wait I thought she was


Destroy the Heretics (2 points), resolve ME2 conflict before the SM (1 point), save Koris (1 point),  Destroy the Geth Squadron (1 point). WIth those you have the five points you need for peace even with Tali dead. She isn't essential. 

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Arlionis wrote...

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justafan wrote...

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The Quarian/Geth war was obviously going to be a major arch in ME3, and Tali is essential to that,


How is she essential in any way? you can get that arch done even if she died in ME2. That doesn't make her look very "essential" to me. 



Her role is foreshadowed in ME2, after her loyalty she reveals she is being vetted as a replacement for her father, her loyalty mission is also directly tied in to the conflict thus making her important to it.



That doesn't mean anything since you can still get the optimal outcome without her. She isn't essential. 


wait I thought she was


Destroy the Heretics (2 points), resolve ME2 conflict before the SM (1 point), save Koris (1 point),  Destroy the Geth Squadron (1 point). WIth those you have the five points you need for peace even with Tali dead. She isn't essential. 

yeah but then you can`t rewrite the heritics

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Arlionis wrote...

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justafan wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

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The Quarian/Geth war was obviously going to be a major arch in ME3, and Tali is essential to that,


How is she essential in any way? you can get that arch done even if she died in ME2. That doesn't make her look very "essential" to me. 



Her role is foreshadowed in ME2, after her loyalty she reveals she is being vetted as a replacement for her father, her loyalty mission is also directly tied in to the conflict thus making her important to it.



That doesn't mean anything since you can still get the optimal outcome without her. She isn't essential. 


wait I thought she was


Destroy the Heretics (2 points), resolve ME2 conflict before the SM (1 point), save Koris (1 point),  Destroy the Geth Squadron (1 point). WIth those you have the five points you need for peace even with Tali dead. She isn't essential. 


Nobodies really essential. You're Your (Damn spelling) choices don't matter, remember?

Modifié par alec1898, 16 mai 2012 - 02:19 .


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garrusfan1 wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

justafan wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

justafan wrote...

The Quarian/Geth war was obviously going to be a major arch in ME3, and Tali is essential to that,


How is she essential in any way? you can get that arch done even if she died in ME2. That doesn't make her look very "essential" to me. 



Her role is foreshadowed in ME2, after her loyalty she reveals she is being vetted as a replacement for her father, her loyalty mission is also directly tied in to the conflict thus making her important to it.



That doesn't mean anything since you can still get the optimal outcome without her. She isn't essential. 


wait I thought she was


Destroy the Heretics (2 points), resolve ME2 conflict before the SM (1 point), save Koris (1 point),  Destroy the Geth Squadron (1 point). WIth those you have the five points you need for peace even with Tali dead. She isn't essential. 

yeah but then you can`t rewrite the heritics


You still get the optimal outcome, because the asset points you get by rewritting the Heretics are replaced by having a stronger Quarian fleet when you destroy the Heretics instead. 

Modifié par Arlionis, 16 mai 2012 - 02:08 .


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alec1898 wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

justafan wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

justafan wrote...

The Quarian/Geth war was obviously going to be a major arch in ME3, and Tali is essential to that,


How is she essential in any way? you can get that arch done even if she died in ME2. That doesn't make her look very "essential" to me. 



Her role is foreshadowed in ME2, after her loyalty she reveals she is being vetted as a replacement for her father, her loyalty mission is also directly tied in to the conflict thus making her important to it.



That doesn't mean anything since you can still get the optimal outcome without her. She isn't essential. 


wait I thought she was


Destroy the Heretics (2 points), resolve ME2 conflict before the SM (1 point), save Koris (1 point),  Destroy the Geth Squadron (1 point). WIth those you have the five points you need for peace even with Tali dead. She isn't essential. 


Nobodies really essential. You're choices don't matter, remember?

true unless ec works but lets not get into it

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Arlionis wrote...

Destroy the Heretics (2 points), resolve ME2 conflict before the SM (1 point), save Koris (1 point),  Destroy the Geth Squadron (1 point). WIth those you have the five points you need for peace even with Tali dead. She isn't essential. 


IIRC having Tali+Legion alive are necessary conditions for peace to be an option, and the points only determine whether you can after those conditions are met.

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justafan wrote...

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Destroy the Heretics (2 points), resolve ME2 conflict before the SM (1 point), save Koris (1 point),  Destroy the Geth Squadron (1 point). WIth those you have the five points you need for peace even with Tali dead. She isn't essential. 


IIRC having Tali+Legion alive are necessary conditions for peace to be an option, and the points only determine whether you can after those conditions are met.


"Tali as an admiral" two points are interchangeable with Destroying/Rewriting the Geth. Both of those flags are defined in ME2, and are the only factors that add two points to the equation. You don't need to have Tali alive, you only need to have five points for peace, and that can be perfectly done without Tali. 

Modifié par Arlionis, 16 mai 2012 - 02:19 .


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Arlionis wrote...

justafan wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

Destroy the Heretics (2 points), resolve ME2 conflict before the SM (1 point), save Koris (1 point),  Destroy the Geth Squadron (1 point). WIth those you have the five points you need for peace even with Tali dead. She isn't essential. 


IIRC having Tali+Legion alive are necessary conditions for peace to be an option, and the points only determine whether you can after those conditions are met.


"Tali as an admiral" two points are interchangeable with Destroying/Rewriting the Geth. oth of those are defined in ME2, and are the only factors that add two points to the equation. You don't need to have Tali alive, you only need to have five points for peace, and that can be perfectly done without Tali. 


According to the Wiki, Tali and Legion must both be present.  This is a pass/fail condition, with one or both dead, peace is impossible regardless of points.  Thus Tali is essential to an optimal outcome.

Modifié par justafan, 16 mai 2012 - 02:22 .


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**** Yeah Heresy

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Hmm?

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Hmm?

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funny

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Hmm?

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funny


I thought so.

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Oh please, if anything, Tali needs more development.

Liara is Bioware's pet.

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Oh please, if anything, Tali needs more development.

Liara is Bioware's pet.


I would approve of development, her character makes me want to shoot her off the cliff on Rannoch and steal Xen for the rest of the game.

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Oh please, if anything, Tali needs more development.

Liara is Bioware's pet.


I would approve of development, her character makes me want to shoot her off the cliff on Rannoch and steal Xen for the rest of the game.


I would much rather have Kal or Xen as Quarian squadmates than Tali. Claudia Black. <3