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[Kosmiker]

Arlionis wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

So when did this turn into a Tali hate thread?

I thought the goal here was to get more time for characters?

It was always a Tali hate thread/troll topic.  The OP only tried to thinly disguise it as a request for more character time. 

So, people not agreeing with you equate to trolls, nice and democratic way to see the world... The truth is that I, a many other people in this thread, would prefer seeing other characters being developed more. Personally I want Jack, Samara and Miranda, but Grunt, Zaeed, Kasumi, Samara, Thane and Jacob also deserve some more attention (yep, I said Jacob too, because at least for a non-romancing Shep his decision of having a family in ME3 is really interesting)

And yet you forgot the most important (hot smoking) one, the one on your avatar.

[Arlionis]

Kosmiker wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

So when did this turn into a Tali hate thread?

I thought the goal here was to get more time for characters?

It was always a Tali hate thread/troll topic.  The OP only tried to thinly disguise it as a request for more character time. 

So, people not agreeing with you equate to trolls, nice and democratic way to see the world... The truth is that I, a many other people in this thread, would prefer seeing other characters being developed more. Personally I want Jack, Samara and Miranda, but Grunt, Zaeed, Kasumi, Samara, Thane and Jacob also deserve some more attention (yep, I said Jacob too, because at least for a non-romancing Shep his decision of having a family in ME3 is really interesting)

And yet you forgot the most important (hot smoking) one, the one on your avatar.

She's the eternal cannot have 

[G Kevin]

Arlionis wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

So when did this turn into a Tali hate thread?

I thought the goal here was to get more time for characters?

It was always a Tali hate thread/troll topic.  The OP only tried to thinly disguise it as a request for more character time. 

So, people not agreeing with you equate to trolls, nice and democratic way to see the world... The truth is that I, and many other people in this thread, would prefer seeing other characters being developed more. Personally I want Jack, Samara and Miranda, but Grunt, Zaeed, Kasumi, Samara, Thane and Jacob also deserve some more attention (yep, I said Jacob too, because at least for a non-romancing Shep his decision of having a family in ME3 is really interesting)

Alright then.

Best way to go about that is to talk about what characters you want to see rather than hating and blaming one character for all of it.

I got a lot of Liara time and I am not really that much of a fan of Liara, yet you don't see me hating on her for taking time off Tali or others.

Modifié par G Kevin, 16 mai 2012 - 09:37 .

[Arlionis]

G Kevin wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

So when did this turn into a Tali hate thread?

I thought the goal here was to get more time for characters?

It was always a Tali hate thread/troll topic.  The OP only tried to thinly disguise it as a request for more character time. 

So, people not agreeing with you equate to trolls, nice and democratic way to see the world... The truth is that I, and many other people in this thread, would prefer seeing other characters being developed more. Personally I want Jack, Samara and Miranda, but Grunt, Zaeed, Kasumi, Samara, Thane and Jacob also deserve some more attention (yep, I said Jacob too, because at least for a non-romancing Shep his decision of having a family in ME3 is really interesting)

Alright then.

Best way to go about that is to talk about what characters you want to see rather than hating and blaming one character for all of it.

I got a lot of Liara time and I am not really that much of a fan of Liara, yet you don't see me hating on her for taking time off Tali or others.

It's not hate, it's frustration. 

[4stringwizard]

Arlionis wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

So when did this turn into a Tali hate thread?

I thought the goal here was to get more time for characters?

It was always a Tali hate thread/troll topic.  The OP only tried to thinly disguise it as a request for more character time. 

So, people not agreeing with you equate to trolls, nice and democratic way to see the world... The truth is that I, a many other people in this thread, would prefer seeing other characters being developed more. Personally I want Jack, Samara and Miranda, but Grunt, Zaeed, Kasumi, Samara, Thane and Jacob also deserve some more attention (yep, I said Jacob too, because at least for a non-romancing Shep his decision of having a family in ME3 is really interesting)

No, posting pictures of a fictional character getting torn to shreds to invoke rage in others counts as trolling.  Saying "I hate so and so character" and calling them names is trolling.  (And if you think posting pictures is going to get me riled up, you're sadly mistaken.     )  

Your weak attempt at any civilized debate quickly devolved whenever someone disagreed with you.  Okay, you hate Tali and you hate Quarians.  We get it.  The fact that you singled out Tali in the title instead of just saying "I wish _____ was in the game more" shows your true colors.   We get it.  Move on with your life.  

As for your other whiny post about the "hate" from Talimancers against ME2 characters in this thread, there wasn't.  Save for maybe one that I saw that didn't like Jack.  You're making it up to play the victim and invoke sympathy for yourself.  Even still, if you hate Tali, don't be surprised that other people hate Jack or any other squadmate.  Deal with it and move on. 

Modifié par 4stringwizard, 16 mai 2012 - 09:42 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

That looks like more hate than frustration.

[Crypticqa]

Arlionis wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

So when did this turn into a Tali hate thread?

I thought the goal here was to get more time for characters?

It was always a Tali hate thread/troll topic.  The OP only tried to thinly disguise it as a request for more character time. 

So, people not agreeing with you equate to trolls, nice and democratic way to see the world... The truth is that I, and many other people in this thread, would prefer seeing other characters being developed more. Personally I want Jack, Samara and Miranda, but Grunt, Zaeed, Kasumi, Samara, Thane and Jacob also deserve some more attention (yep, I said Jacob too, because at least for a non-romancing Shep his decision of having a family in ME3 is really interesting)

Alright then.

Best way to go about that is to talk about what characters you want to see rather than hating and blaming one character for all of it.

I got a lot of Liara time and I am not really that much of a fan of Liara, yet you don't see me hating on her for taking time off Tali or others.

It's not hate, it's frustration. 

Uh-huh. Right. Look at the picture you posted. Just look at it...Frustration?

[G Kevin]

Arlionis wrote...

G Kevin wrote...
Alright then.

Best way to go about that is to talk about what characters you want to see rather than hating and blaming one character for all of it.

I got a lot of Liara time and I am not really that much of a fan of Liara, yet you don't see me hating on her for taking time off Tali or others.

It's not hate, it's frustration. 

It may have started out that way but this thread has been turning frustration into hate. As pointed out, posting pictures of a character being brutally ripped apart does not indicate frustration.

Whatever the initial motivation was, it now seems like hate.

If you're trying to get back at people who insulted other characters then doing the same back is not going to go well for anybody.

[Arlionis]

Crypticqa wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

So when did this turn into a Tali hate thread?

I thought the goal here was to get more time for characters?

It was always a Tali hate thread/troll topic.  The OP only tried to thinly disguise it as a request for more character time. 

So, people not agreeing with you equate to trolls, nice and democratic way to see the world... The truth is that I, and many other people in this thread, would prefer seeing other characters being developed more. Personally I want Jack, Samara and Miranda, but Grunt, Zaeed, Kasumi, Samara, Thane and Jacob also deserve some more attention (yep, I said Jacob too, because at least for a non-romancing Shep his decision of having a family in ME3 is really interesting)

Alright then.

Best way to go about that is to talk about what characters you want to see rather than hating and blaming one character for all of it.

I got a lot of Liara time and I am not really that much of a fan of Liara, yet you don't see me hating on her for taking time off Tali or others.

It's not hate, it's frustration. 

Uh-huh. Right. Look at the picture you posted. Just look at it...Frustration?

It's called sense of humour. 

[Unit-Alpha]

G Kevin wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

So when did this turn into a Tali hate thread?

I thought the goal here was to get more time for characters?

It was always a Tali hate thread/troll topic.  The OP only tried to thinly disguise it as a request for more character time. 

So, people not agreeing with you equate to trolls, nice and democratic way to see the world... The truth is that I, and many other people in this thread, would prefer seeing other characters being developed more. Personally I want Jack, Samara and Miranda, but Grunt, Zaeed, Kasumi, Samara, Thane and Jacob also deserve some more attention (yep, I said Jacob too, because at least for a non-romancing Shep his decision of having a family in ME3 is really interesting)

Alright then.

Best way to go about that is to talk about what characters you want to see rather than hating and blaming one character for all of it.

I got a lot of Liara time and I am not really that much of a fan of Liara, yet you don't see me hating on her for taking time off Tali or others.

But dozens of people make threads exactly like this for Liara.

Also, it's kinda hard to say Tali gets less screen time than Liara, when Tali gets 3 games and Liara gets 2 games and a DLC. A damn good DLC, but still.

[4stringwizard]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

But dozens of people make threads exactly like this for Liara.

Also, it's kinda hard to say Tali gets less screen time than Liara, when Tali gets 3 games and Liara gets 2 games and a DLC. A damn good DLC, but still.

You can't argue that Liara wasn't given a very disproportionate amount of attention in ME3 compared to other squadmembers.  More than Tali, Garrus, Ashley, Kaiden...etc.  That's where the frustration comes from.  Not condoning actual "hate" threads, but still. 

And you can't argue it's because she wasn't a squadmember ME2.  Ashley/Kaiden weren't either, and they got even less screen time than Liara in ME2.  No story-centric missions, no DLC.  Just a brief conversation and an email, that's it.  yet, they still were given less attention than Liara come ME3. 

Modifié par 4stringwizard, 16 mai 2012 - 09:53 .

[Arlionis]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

So when did this turn into a Tali hate thread?

I thought the goal here was to get more time for characters?

It was always a Tali hate thread/troll topic.  The OP only tried to thinly disguise it as a request for more character time. 

So, people not agreeing with you equate to trolls, nice and democratic way to see the world... The truth is that I, and many other people in this thread, would prefer seeing other characters being developed more. Personally I want Jack, Samara and Miranda, but Grunt, Zaeed, Kasumi, Samara, Thane and Jacob also deserve some more attention (yep, I said Jacob too, because at least for a non-romancing Shep his decision of having a family in ME3 is really interesting)

Alright then.

Best way to go about that is to talk about what characters you want to see rather than hating and blaming one character for all of it.

I got a lot of Liara time and I am not really that much of a fan of Liara, yet you don't see me hating on her for taking time off Tali or others.

But dozens of people make threads exactly like this for Liara.

Also, it's kinda hard to say Tali gets less screen time than Liara, when Tali gets 3 games and Liara gets 2 games and a DLC. A damn good DLC, but still.

Preciselly, and not only Liara, you can see threads that are actually hate threads like "I hate Ashley" or "EDI is an abomination", or the homophobic ones against Cortez and kaidan, and  well, the countless ones about Liara, no problem with those ones apparently, this one isn't even a hate thread but kinda a request to the devs to not to ignore ME2 characters anymore. The reason why Tali is the subject is mentioned in my first post, she already had three games, that's a lot and many of us are bored and tired of her. 

[Cosmar]

I liked Tali's romance the best out of all the ME3 romances, by far. She was the only romanceable character who didn't come off as too whiny or too cold/aloof. She seemed strong but also loving. Aside from the retarded picture. So apprently quarians are just humans with glowy eyes and a couple weird markings? Yeah, uh huh.

I thought Tali was fine being in the squad. I would have much rather had EDI and James not be squad members and give their slots to other people I actually cared about.

[G Kevin]

Unit-Alpha wrote...

But dozens of people make threads exactly like this for Liara.

Also, it's kinda hard to say Tali gets less screen time than Liara, when Tali gets 3 games and Liara gets 2 games and a DLC. A damn good DLC, but still.

Doesn't mean we should.

Arlionis wrote...
Preciselly, and not only Liara, you can see threads that are actually hate threads like "I hate Ashley" or "EDI is an abomination", or the homophobic ones against Cortez and kaidan, and  well, the countless ones about Liara, no problem with those ones apparently, this one isn't even a hate thread but kinda a request to the devs to not to ignore ME2 characters anymore. The reason why Tali is the subject is mentioned in my first post, she already had three games, that's a lot and many of us are bored and tired of her. 

 

That doesn't justify adding onto the pile.

Rather than saying, "I wish I had less of this character and more of this," a better idea would be, "I am satisfied with this character but I haven't seen this other character at all." We should be asking for more time for all characters.

Modifié par G Kevin, 16 mai 2012 - 09:56 .

[ichi9181]

hmm the reason i dislike liara she turned her back on me when tali was always right ther for me

[Arlionis]

4stringwizard wrote...

Unit-Alpha wrote...

But dozens of people make threads exactly like this for Liara.

Also, it's kinda hard to say Tali gets less screen time than Liara, when Tali gets 3 games and Liara gets 2 games and a DLC. A damn good DLC, but still.

You can't argue that Liara wasn't given a very disproportionate amount of attention in ME3 compared to other squadmembers.  More than Tali, Garrus, Ashley, Kaiden...etc.  That's where the frustration comes from.  Not condoning actual "hate" threads, but still. 

And you can't argue it's because she wasn't a squadmember ME2.  Ashley/Kaiden weren't either, and they got even less screen time than Liara in ME2.  No story-centric missions, no DLC.  Just a brief conversation and an email, that's it.  yet, they still were given less attention than Liara come ME3. 

Yeah, the Citadel coup and Mars are totally "no story-centric missions". With that said, I'm pissed about leaving the VS in the hospital, but I understand that was needed for the Cerberus Coup subplot to workout in the way it did. 

[Crypticqa]

Arlionis wrote...

Crypticqa wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

So when did this turn into a Tali hate thread?

I thought the goal here was to get more time for characters?

It was always a Tali hate thread/troll topic.  The OP only tried to thinly disguise it as a request for more character time. 

So, people not agreeing with you equate to trolls, nice and democratic way to see the world... The truth is that I, and many other people in this thread, would prefer seeing other characters being developed more. Personally I want Jack, Samara and Miranda, but Grunt, Zaeed, Kasumi, Samara, Thane and Jacob also deserve some more attention (yep, I said Jacob too, because at least for a non-romancing Shep his decision of having a family in ME3 is really interesting)

Alright then.

Best way to go about that is to talk about what characters you want to see rather than hating and blaming one character for all of it.

I got a lot of Liara time and I am not really that much of a fan of Liara, yet you don't see me hating on her for taking time off Tali or others.

It's not hate, it's frustration. 

Uh-huh. Right. Look at the picture you posted. Just look at it...Frustration?

It's called sense of humour. 

I think you posted that just to make people who like Tali mad, yes? I belive it is called trolling or something like that.
Never mind, I am going to fix my sense of humour, because I am obviously missing something here.

[DevilBeast]

4stringwizard wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

So when did this turn into a Tali hate thread?

I thought the goal here was to get more time for characters?

It was always a Tali hate thread/troll topic.  The OP only tried to thinly disguise it as a request for more character time. 

To be honest, I wouldn´t call a title such as "I´m tired and bored of Tali" as thinly disguised.

[Arlionis]

Crypticqa wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

Crypticqa wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

So when did this turn into a Tali hate thread?

I thought the goal here was to get more time for characters?

It was always a Tali hate thread/troll topic.  The OP only tried to thinly disguise it as a request for more character time. 

So, people not agreeing with you equate to trolls, nice and democratic way to see the world... The truth is that I, and many other people in this thread, would prefer seeing other characters being developed more. Personally I want Jack, Samara and Miranda, but Grunt, Zaeed, Kasumi, Samara, Thane and Jacob also deserve some more attention (yep, I said Jacob too, because at least for a non-romancing Shep his decision of having a family in ME3 is really interesting)

Alright then.

Best way to go about that is to talk about what characters you want to see rather than hating and blaming one character for all of it.

I got a lot of Liara time and I am not really that much of a fan of Liara, yet you don't see me hating on her for taking time off Tali or others.

It's not hate, it's frustration. 

Uh-huh. Right. Look at the picture you posted. Just look at it...Frustration?

It's called sense of humour. 

I think you posted that just to make people who like Tali mad, yes? I belive it is called trolling or something like that.
Never mind, I am going to fix my sense of humour, because I am obviously missing something here.

No, it's actually called counter-trolling, go back to pages 15/16 and 17 of this same thread and see your fellow Talimancers acting like a bunch of angry kids. 


With that said, and to be honest, I find the starving Vorcha image hilarious to no end. Hope the poor fella didn't get sick. 

Modifié par Arlionis, 16 mai 2012 - 10:02 .

[G Kevin]

Arlionis wrote...

No, it's actually called counter-trolling, go back to pages 15/16 and 17 of this same thread and see your fellow Talimancers acting like a bunch of angry kids. 


With that said, and to be honest, the I find the starving Vorcha image hilarious to no end. Hope the poor fella didn't get sick. 

So, you're getting back at people that annoyed you?

That's not going to get us anywhere. It'll go back and forth and nobody will come out for the better.

[DevilBeast]

G Kevin wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

4stringwizard wrote...

G Kevin wrote...

So when did this turn into a Tali hate thread?

I thought the goal here was to get more time for characters?

It was always a Tali hate thread/troll topic.  The OP only tried to thinly disguise it as a request for more character time. 

So, people not agreeing with you equate to trolls, nice and democratic way to see the world... The truth is that I, and many other people in this thread, would prefer seeing other characters being developed more. Personally I want Jack, Samara and Miranda, but Grunt, Zaeed, Kasumi, Samara, Thane and Jacob also deserve some more attention (yep, I said Jacob too, because at least for a non-romancing Shep his decision of having a family in ME3 is really interesting)

Alright then.

Best way to go about that is to talk about what characters you want to see rather than hating and blaming one character for all of it.

I got a lot of Liara time and I am not really that much of a fan of Liara, yet you don't see me hating on her for taking time off Tali or others.

Please forgive me if I´m wrong, but haven´t I seen you posting not-so-nice-might-be-interpreted-as-hate posts on almost obvious Liara hate threads??

[Arlionis]

G Kevin wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

No, it's actually called counter-trolling, go back to pages 15/16 and 17 of this same thread and see your fellow Talimancers acting like a bunch of angry kids. 


With that said, and to be honest, the I find the starving Vorcha image hilarious to no end. Hope the poor fella didn't get sick. 

So, you're getting back at people that annoyed you?

That's not going to get us anywhere. It'll go back and forth and nobody will come out for the better.

Not annoyed , amused, very amused. But let's go back to the OT, the EC should develop more the ME2 cast instead of the characters that got excessive facetime (mainly Tali). 

Modifié par Arlionis, 16 mai 2012 - 10:05 .

[4stringwizard]

Arlionis wrote...

Crypticqa wrote...


I think you posted that just to make people who like Tali mad, yes? I belive it is called trolling or something like that.
Never mind, I am going to fix my sense of humour, because I am obviously missing something here.

No, it's actually called counter-trolling, go back to pages 15/16 and 17 of this same thread and see your fellow Talimancers acting like a bunch of angry kids. 


With that said, and to be honest, the I find the starving Vorcha image hilarious to no end. Hope the poor fella didn't get sick. 

Nooo...that was us having fun and not taking the thread seriously.  In case you didn't notice, they weren't getting angry or deliberately trying to get under someone's skin.  Tempers weren't flaring from anyone.  (Actually, all but one of the hate pics came from the anti-Tali crowd.  Tells you something I think.).  But if you took all that seriously, shame on you.  

You however, were trolling and didn't even have the decency to admit it (at first anyway).  And that's why nothing you say can be taken seriously anymore.  You're just hating.  

Modifié par 4stringwizard, 16 mai 2012 - 10:06 .

[Arlionis]

4stringwizard wrote...

Arlionis wrote...

Crypticqa wrote...


I think you posted that just to make people who like Tali mad, yes? I belive it is called trolling or something like that.
Never mind, I am going to fix my sense of humour, because I am obviously missing something here.

No, it's actually called counter-trolling, go back to pages 15/16 and 17 of this same thread and see your fellow Talimancers acting like a bunch of angry kids. 


With that said, and to be honest, the I find the starving Vorcha image hilarious to no end. Hope the poor fella didn't get sick. 

Nooo...that was us having fun and not taking the thread seriously.  In case you didn't notice, they weren't getting angry or deliberately trying to get under someone's skin.  Tempers weren't flaring from anyone.  (Actually, all but one of the hate pics came from the anti-Tali crowd.  Tells you something I think.).  But if you took all that seriously, shame on you.  

You however, were trolling and didn't even have the decency to admit it (at first anyway).  And that's why nothing you say can be taken seriously anymore.  You're just hating.  

Apparently you and me are talking about two different threads... 

[G Kevin]

DevilBeast wrote...

Please forgive me if I´m wrong, but haven´t I seen you posting not-so-nice-might-be-interpreted-as-hate posts on almost obvious Liara hate threads??

No I have not.

But I have not really been in their threads to say otherwise.