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I find Jack instresting because of her past connections with cerby, but I find her to be annoying, I agree Tali can be somewhat Boring, but I must say I like the mystery that embraces Tali, we never get to see whats behind the mask, I don't count that photoshop image to be her because it was just a lazy rip off.

but to be honnest where would Jack fit in you're crew in me3?

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Necromancy is popular around hear

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Arlionis wrote...

 I'm replaying ME3, and something I noticed is that Jack, unlike any other ME2 squad member, was fully redesigned (with magnetic weapons holsters and everything). It's obvious BioWare seriously considered to make her a full time squad member in ME3, yet, for some "mysterious" reason, that didn't happen. Then I remembered how one of the writers (Weekes I think) said during PAX that at first Tali wasn't even supposed to be a full squad member in ME3, and I started to wonder if they ditched Jack in order to save/create the resources and assets to include Tali (yet again). 


It's time to let Tali go and let other characters have some development, to be honest I'm bored of Tali, not only I find her dull, but she's also already been included in three games and, worst yet, I'm convinced Jack was sacrificed in order to include Tali in ME3. 

At least I'm hoping that during the EC they do justice for Jack (and the ME2 squad).


Remember that ME2 Squad mates could have died, and not make it into ME3, that's why the Devs. thought it was a waste of time and resource to invest in a character that could've died. All ME2 characters are optional in ME3 (Garru, Tali*) and the rest have cameos just for that.

That's why you get Liara, EDI, ASH/KAI, DLC-Javik and Vega. Because if you were a (CENSORED) and suicided everyone on ME2, players don't complain, "why i am alone on ME3". Ohh wait, forgot to mentions that this is the reason why Jack is not companion.
  • Tali? Huge fan base, also for the Quarian/Geth dilemma(sorry Legion) :D
  • Garru? hell yeahh why not? we need Calibrations!
They deserve time and resource investment, even if they weren't alive in ME3.

Modifié par Laforgus, 07 décembre 2012 - 01:47 .


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Yeah. Jack's redesign wasn't so she could be a squadmate, it was so that she would be a little more relatable than a bald, topless woman who does terrible things. Her old look wouldn't make sense with where she was in her arc.

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Yeah and there's absolutely nothing else they could have gotten rid of to make Jack a squadmate. Like those tedious fetch that have absolutely no purpose but to waste your time or the whole Citadel coup which, again, serves no other purpose but to waste your time.

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Jack should've been a squadmate, but they should've never introduced Vega. Total waste.

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Diurdi wrote...

Jack should've been a squadmate, but they should've never introduced Vega. Total waste.

The only problem with that is the possibility that somebody would play the game exclusively with Liara, AK and EDI, due to killing the whole ME2 squad.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Yeah and there's absolutely nothing else they could have gotten rid of to make Jack a squadmate. Like those tedious fetch that have absolutely no purpose but to waste your time or the whole Citadel coup which, again, serves no other purpose but to waste your time.

The Citadel Coup is a mission.  It serves no more and no less purpose than the Horizon or Collector Ship missions in ME2.

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I loved Tali in ME1 but her character, to me, has gone downhill. I either hated her in 2 and just didn't care for her in 3 or it's the other way around but, yeah, she's definitely not my favorite. I liked all the squadmates in 3 except for Kaidan and Tali.

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IsaacShep wrote...

It was Chris Priestly who said that Tali was selected as squad member because of popularity. Then Jessica Merizan said it's not true. So yeah, make up what you want of it. In that "Unofficial interview with Weekes" thingy (I think it was there), Patrick Weekes did indeed apparently say that they had a hard time deciding who to bring to squad from ME2 and they decided for Tali & Garrus again because uhrm... "you've had them since the beginning. So yeah.


Jessica Merizan has said 'things' time and time again, only to be wrong, then to complain about how fans take her statements so seriously and that she's just tweeting her 'opinion', then she continues to make the same sort of pretendy-insider-knowledge statements that make people mad when they turn out not to be true.

Ignore her. She is not a credible/valid source of information.

On a less personal note... 

Lots of people do like Tali - and I'm not just saying that because I'm one of them. I see where you're going with your comparison with Jack though. The most Bioware did with Tali is the lazy stock photo bit for LIs. Blame whatever you want for that one, since Bioware's answer is that they felt this was appropriate (which if true is just shameful).

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I think they should've given at least one squadmate from ME2.

Whether Jack or Miranda or Grunt, just one.

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Grunt should have been the Krogan squadmate for ME3.

"Shepard is my battlemaster, he has no match." It would have been fitting to have one last fight with Grunt on Priority Earth.

Modifié par MegaSovereign, 07 décembre 2012 - 06:11 .


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Why? What's the point of resurrecting these old threads?

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Grunt should have been the Krogan squadmate for ME3.

"Shepard is my battlemaster, he has no match." It would have been fitting to have one last fight with Grunt on Priority Earth.

"Let's go punch death in the face. He he he."

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

Why? What's the point of resurrecting these old threads?

What's the point of resurrecting dead turians?

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You do realize that it's kind of bioware's fault for not making any ME2 characters squadmates, and not the actual character. Right?

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Nihlus was an honorable Spectre, and a big goddamn hero. You watch your mouth.

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So someone resurrects a thread that hasn't seen activity for more than half a year, only to request that someone lock it down? Yeah, that seems like the logical thing to do :P

As for the topic: I liked Jack's development, wouldn't have minded seeing more of her. But I like Tali too, so I'm satisfied with her role in ME3. I'll just stand over here and shrug my shoulders :innocent:

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

Nihlus was an honorable Spectre, and a big goddamn hero. You watch your mouth.

IKR?  That's why I pick Morinth every time.  Can't believe Samara tried to kill him, what an a-hole.

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bobobo878 wrote...

BringBackNihlus wrote...

Nihlus was an honorable Spectre, and a big goddamn hero. You watch your mouth.

IKR?  That's why I pick Morinth every time.  Can't believe Samara tried to kill him, what an a-hole.


Lol I'm lost. When did Samara try to kill Nihlus?

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She brings it up in one of the conversations on ME2. Two week cat-and-mouse battle in the woods, I believe. He put her in a situation where she had to kill an innocent to get to him. She had to let him go. Used her Code against her.

****ing boss ****.

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BringBackNihlus wrote...

She brings it up in one of the conversations on ME2. Two week cat-and-mouse battle in the woods, I believe. He put her in a situation where she had to kill an innocent to get to him. She had to let him go. Used her Code against her.

****ing boss ****.


Wow I completely missed that.

Why was Nihlus being chased by her? Did he do something wrong?

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I actually agree. I was pretty bored of Tali by the time 3 came, but James was even worse as a character. I wish I could have had Javik take care of him.

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sw04ca wrote...

Diurdi wrote...

Jack should've been a squadmate, but they should've never introduced Vega. Total waste.

The only problem with that is the possibility that somebody would play the game exclusively with Liara, AK and EDI, due to killing the whole ME2 squad.

I don't see that as a problem. Those who killed their whole ME2 squad are in the absolute vast minority. We're talking <1%. You actually have to work hard to make that happen.

Modifié par Diurdi, 07 décembre 2012 - 07:16 .