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For the love of god, bioware don´t focus all your efforts on Multiplayer


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dsl08002

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One thing that worries me is that bioware will focus on mutliplayer rather than singleplayer. its like they think for themself: "oh COD and BF3 has a multiplayer focus and we should do that ourself.

Don´t forget what mass effect is all about, epic role-playing and story adventure through singelplayer mode. 
i dont mind the Mp but they should put more efforts in making ME3 as a complete game, the crown jewel of the entire ME franchise  

what do you think?

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CrystalCircuit

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Multiplayer is artistic.

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VampireSoap

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I...uh...have no love for your god, but I kinda partially agree with you. Sometimes multiplayer is quite silly...sometimes.

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chengthao

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BW is about making money

not good games

and MP games do make more money . . . COD, Halo, Gears

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dsl08002 wrote...

One thing that worries me is that bioware will focus on mutliplayer rather than singleplayer. its like they think for themself: "oh COD and BF3 has a multiplayer focus and we should do that ourself.

Don´t forget what mass effect is all about, epic role-playing and story adventure through singelplayer mode. 
i dont mind the Mp but they should put more efforts in making ME3 as a complete game, the crown jewel of the entire ME franchise  

what do you think?


Multiplayer is made by a seperate team.

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multiplayer is good it gives you something to do when you have got bored of story mode.
NOW QUIT YO WHINING!

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And that separate team is being paid to make it amazing and to beat the SP.

Is it working yet?

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Now lest all throw common sense out the window and just post whatever harebrained and panicky things that come to our mind first.

SPIDER!!!!!

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Multiplayer is great! It gives a rare opprtunity to stay a little more in this great universe )

Modifié par Artemillion, 15 mai 2012 - 08:14 .


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xsdob wrote...

Now lest all throw common sense out the window and just post whatever harebrained and panicky things that come to our mind first.

SPIDER!!!!!


Your avatar makes me want to throw money at you because its art.

Is it working?

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HORNET!!! WHY DID I GO WALKING TODAY!

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ThatME3Guy wrote...

multiplayer is good it gives you something to do when you have got bored of story mode.
NOW QUIT YO WHINING!


x10

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my opinion MP is good it is as one guy stated here made by a separate team that should learn the Quircks of glitches and bugs that happens with most MP based games but to me tho Despite a few bugs here and their its good but they should Focus on the Money glitch and have it be recorded at ALL times even when their appearing offline which makes it allot fair to the Legit players the people who exploit it should be banned and caught at all times by bioware it would make them think twice before doing so again but thats off topic any way well not really since its MP based Singleplayer tho thats another story the Star child and star gazer in my opinion should be removed entirely since they have no meaning and not even introduced into the series Legitly Tali Garrus Wrex Mordin Legion Samara Miranda Jacobb Jeff EDI the Normandy SR1 and SR2 etc all the current characters and faces that we either love or despised wer incorporated Legitly not like the star child and star gazer that has no back ground no history nadda to me BW should think before they add something in at the last minute..


Also i'm sorry in Advance my English isn't good as you guys and Gals can tell even tho i know some random troll will still go at me for it but eh idc >.>

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Sarah Knight wrote...

my opinion MP is good it is as one guy stated here made by a separate team that should learn the Quircks of glitches and bugs that happens with most MP based games but to me tho Despite a few bugs here and their its good but they should Focus on the Money glitch and have it be recorded at ALL times even when their appearing offline which makes it allot fair to the Legit players the people who exploit it should be banned and caught at all times by bioware it would make them think twice before doing so again but thats off topic any way well not really since its MP based Singleplayer tho thats another story the Star child and star gazer in my opinion should be removed entirely since they have no meaning and not even introduced into the series Legitly Tali Garrus Wrex Mordin Legion Samara Miranda Jacobb Jeff EDI the Normandy SR1 and SR2 etc all the current characters and faces that we either love or despised wer incorporated Legitly not like the star child and star gazer that has no back ground no history nadda to me BW should think before they add something in at the last minute..


Also i'm sorry in Advance my English isn't good as you guys and Gals can tell even tho i know some random troll will still go at me for it but eh idc >.>


Also  early Advice to those who do  MP  if your NAT  setting isn't open  fully or your ISP  not letting Xbox live through fully  that could be the source of the Major Lag Spikes your having i know it was with mine but if you guys get a lag  like that check your settings in your modem on your computer  or Call your ISP  and have them Diagnose it and if need be replace your modem (also should be updated every 2 years) again ISP could do that for you remotely. just figured i'd pass that along for yea <3

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Im not saying that i whine about the multiplayer because i think that multiplayer is great.

But considering all the feedback and issues that concerns the story in Singleplayer, isnt it better to focus on that first regardless.

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Didn't you hear? All EA games are multiplayer now. That way when they close the servers you have to buy another game.

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Eamon696 wrote...

dsl08002 wrote...

One thing that worries me is that bioware will focus on mutliplayer rather than singleplayer. its like they think for themself: "oh COD and BF3 has a multiplayer focus and we should do that ourself.

Don´t forget what mass effect is all about, epic role-playing and story adventure through singelplayer mode. 
i dont mind the Mp but they should put more efforts in making ME3 as a complete game, the crown jewel of the entire ME franchise  

what do you think?


Multiplayer is made by a seperate team.



So what does that say about single player.................... they have just one person working on that........... OH i understand now why its taking so long!

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ThatME3Guy wrote...

multiplayer is good it gives you something to do when you have got bored of story mode.
NOW QUIT YO WHINING!


When I get bored of storymode of a game, I play another game.

I have BF2:BC and CoD4, but I never could hold interest in either to even get a single max level char in any of them. Never bothered with any of the latter iterations because it's pointless to get a game aimed at an area that just seems pointless to me.

I play games to experience a story of some sort, even if the story is rather abstract as when I play Europa Universalis 3. Frag fests just don't interest me, they seem boring to me.

I think the only times I've had fun with frag fests where when I visited dedicated gaming cafés with a handfull of friends, and we could shout at each other in the same room. But sitting alone at home in front of the screen? Nope. Vent and the like will never suffice to real life interaction in that regard, and thus the frag fests will always be a bore to me.

Given the abundance of good games with stories attached (or just watching a movie, even), why bother with pointless frag fests? :mellow:

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hchadw wrote...

Eamon696 wrote...

dsl08002 wrote...

One thing that worries me is that bioware will focus on mutliplayer rather than singleplayer. its like they think for themself: "oh COD and BF3 has a multiplayer focus and we should do that ourself.

Don´t forget what mass effect is all about, epic role-playing and story adventure through singelplayer mode. 
i dont mind the Mp but they should put more efforts in making ME3 as a complete game, the crown jewel of the entire ME franchise  

what do you think?


Multiplayer is made by a seperate team.



So what does that say about single player.................... they have just one person working on that........... OH i understand now why its taking so long!



Your Wrong about the one person working on single player   i've known and seen companies split into two teams  of Developement  for multiplayer and Single player COD  BF3 Duke Nukem Resident evil   etc   their wer two teams working on both ends the team that did both in my opinion did great but their was one flaw i mentioned early  (star child and star gazer)  both had no meaning in the franchise   and your

"understanding of why it takes so long"

that  isn't the concept your understanding to clearly  Neither is the Naive negative  trolls and cry babies out their  (which i know will troll me for this but i'll be ignoring them)  

you need to understand the concepts  Theirs the feed back from us the fans  The resources that  the Dev team wants to incorporate with  the feed back on top of new game engine research and new ideas that the team may Brainstorm in the end  on top of the Game Coding  Purchase pricing for the Merchandise   where it will be sold  what consoles   also Same said consoles that they had dealings with the past allow them to "use" their console coding still or their forbidden to use it  etc  As well as the Testing phase  after  the game is created to see if that is what the  Dev Team wanted all this  and if  any part of the story line was "Leaked" by PR or other inside sources that wanted to ruin it for their consumers  may of Leaked to the Media which permits the Said company Ex bioware  to make  the choices they need to correct the part that was Leaked   their are also  more Factors of why Games never Release on time or Later on  the following Year  For example to this Ghost recon future soldier should of been out Jan 1st 2011 but they never  Released it till this year Due to  Kinect and more  changes that they wanted to incoporate into the game.B)

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'2 teams' means nothing.

STRATEGY A: They invested a certain amount of cash into the game. If they had 2 teams then the cash would be distributed between them. So less green for SP

A few members of the original SP team would also work on the other project exclusively or do a bit of both.

OR

STRATEGY B: They might of realised they could make more money from MP's microtransactions and then invested extra money for MP, not taking anything away from SP

Most likely....they were not sure how much money would be made from MP in a SP game so they played it safe and did STRATEGY A. i mean how much extra money had been made in SP games with a MP add-on before ME3... (assassin's creed?, FIFA?, etc)

Maybe in the future MP won't eat into SP budget. But for ME3 its logical to assume that it did

Modifié par Drake-Shepard, 15 mai 2012 - 09:08 .


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I'm pretty sure the single player team is busy working on that extended cut. Meanwhile, the MP team is free to continue on with their initial plans.

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maybe that budget has been increased just because of mp, that is, would be smaller if there wasnt mp involved ?
we dont know

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ThatME3Guy wrote...

multiplayer is good it gives you something to do when you have got bored of story mode.
NOW QUIT YO WHINING!


when i get bored of SP and want some MP i put in COD or Halo

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Drake-Shepard wrote...

'2 teams' means nothing.

STRATEGY A: They invested a certain amount of cash into the game. If they had 2 teams then the cash would be distributed between them. So less green for SP

A few members of the original SP team would also work on the other project exclusively or do a bit of both.

OR

STRATEGY B: They might of realised they could make more money from MP's microtransactions and then invested extra money for MP, not taking anything away from SP

Most likely....they were not sure how much money would be made from MP in a SP game so they played it safe and did STRATEGY A. i mean how much extra money had been made in SP games with a MP add-on before ME3... (assassin's creed?, FIFA?, etc)

Maybe in the future MP won't eat into SP budget. But for ME3 its logical to assume that it did


i don't See how you figure and FIFA  if my memory Serves is just  a sport game.

their Are companies that did Two team Scenario's  and i know EA and Bioware are one of them that Fairly pay's its employees despite the rep they have  who knows every thing we know about Ea that we read on  the websites could be a Lie  and everything bioware and EA been telling us on their websites being the cold facts of the truth.


but as for your "Statement" about budget A thats not Entirely  true   Battlefield 3 for example Look how that Game turned out Game informer Gave that a  9.5 Due to Superb Multiplayer and SP Their are Allot of fans that actually Support the Dev Team on Mass effect 3 and what they did but their are some minor plotholes  that they need to rectify  Mostly Star child and Star gazer  and the explanation of how your crew got on normandy  while you wer opening the arms  again  ... but the point is  Their Are  companies that Do Release  a crappy game at first then correct it while  the one that didn't do so well  gets worked on through extra DLC and Closure which is what Bioware is doing    For All we know they could of changed the Ending and didn't  want us to know the real one upon its released and some idiot released it and they  removed  the portion of what was   (released) through press etc   was changed so that the fans that don't want the ending changed "hence the positive feed back" those that didn't care and wanted  the ending the wer promised "negative side" wanted what the press Said  in their  talk about mass effect that got their hopes and dreams up  while the  the positive side  starts to flame at bioware because they chose the negative side over them  in my opionion it could be any number of ways where as bioware had to make a few tough calls   along their road of releasing it  and the fact that this game  i know will be best seller since it is a block buster Seller and i know that their are still copies of this game still being bought  despite the negative Feed back the negative side is going for  but SP needs to be  changed a tad bit at the ending  and to have the dreams explained a bit more to...

Also sorry for my english  i tend to ramble allot and i'm also not good with  English and punctions and all that  crap...

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Eamon696 wrote...

Multiplayer is made by a seperate team.


Using up the same resources and disc space. How much better would ME3 have been if that second team had been helping complete the SP under EA's deadline?