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#26
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Mass Effect MP is a different team from Mass Effect SP.

They are currently working on an Extended Cut Ending because soooo many fans *insert some kind of insult here* demanded it (sort of!) and instead of focusing on new SP DLC missions, we're getting EC Ending.

Which while they do that MP team is making MP DLC for MP.

But you wanna rage, so we're gonna let you do that.

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Common sense tells me that: multiplayer components take up space on the disk, which means there is less space for more SP, therefore having MP equals less of what we all want, which is more SP.

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Multiplayer is made by a seperate team.


Using up the same resources and disc space. How much better would ME3 have been if that second team had been helping complete the SP under EA's deadline?

Rocket  even if your idea  "came" to fruition  their will be allot of upset players that had Deliberately Asked for  MP  everything  Bioware did was our  opinions  "minus the star gazer and child" idk where the hell they pulled that out of ther Arse but the point im trying to say even if they did  the exact same thing for ME2  which Was very Short Mind you  compared to ME3 and ME1 without DLC   buti think they did good despite the star child and star gazer Minus the one little missing pointer of your crew .

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Icemix wrote...

Common sense tells me that: multiplayer components take up space on the disk, which means there is less space for more SP, therefore having MP equals less of what we all want, which is more SP.

Then you have not played Battlefield 3 or COD have you? that statement isn't true 
also as you stating "we all want more SP" where the hell did you pull that out of your butt to come up with that Statistic? Majority of the Fans  Asked for MP  and bioware Decided to do so  for Future Games  EA could do one Disc Solely for  SP and the other for MP  Like battlefield did Since both are in the rights of Copying that idea  since their "owned"  by EA

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The MP in ME3 is pretty dead anyway. Just 10 waves? If COD: Zombie can go up to 100 then why can't you Bioware?

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Playing the multiplayer demo prior to launch I was all "Hey, this could work!"

..but then seeing the cut corners, the lack of dialogue options, rushed work in the ending and the host of some serious bugs, its becoming more and more regular that when a game decides to include multiplayer - the single player suffers.

Sure you can say its a different team or whatever, but thats staff, money and resources that could be spent (and in ME3s case) should be spent on SP.

Had the singleplayer come out and been totally awesome and blown my socks off from start to finish, it would have been a different case, but it suffered and had a lot of elements that are usually associated with a game that was running out of time and resources.

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ThatME3Guy wrote...

multiplayer is good it gives you something to do when you have got bored of story mode.
NOW QUIT YO WHINING!

ive spent waaayyyy more time replaying mass effect 2 than i ever will with mass effect 3, multiplayer and everything, and i only play multiplayer because its required to get everything in singleplayer -_-

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Sarah Knight wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Common sense tells me that: multiplayer components take up space on the disk, which means there is less space for more SP, therefore having MP equals less of what we all want, which is more SP.

Then you have not played Battlefield 3 or COD have you? that statement isn't true 
also as you stating "we all want more SP" where the hell did you pull that out of your butt to come up with that Statistic? Majority of the Fans  Asked for MP  and bioware Decided to do so  for Future Games  EA could do one Disc Solely for  SP and the other for MP  Like battlefield did Since both are in the rights of Copying that idea  since their "owned"  by EA


and where did you pull that statistic from?

BF3 and COD do not have a good SP campaign

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i love how op just assumes mp is the only thing there working on without any form of proof


i want single player dlc just as much as the next person but cmon guys dont be making crap up as you go along

Modifié par Tazzmission, 15 mai 2012 - 09:50 .


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I agree, but for a different reason: I'd like BW to retire ME and move on to their next idea. I've enjoyed almost everything BW has put out and am looking forward to what's next.

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ThatME3Guy wrote...

multiplayer is good it gives you something to do when you have got bored of story mode.
NOW QUIT YO WHINING!


The story mode shouldn't be boring in a game that is about story.

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I agree, but for a different reason: I'd like BW to retire ME and move on to their next idea. I've enjoyed almost everything BW has put out and am looking forward to what's next.


dude that will never happen with me

they spoke about spin offs so thats the most likley scenario and i find it funny people just assume mmo or w/e wich imo is not the best thing to do since after tor lost so many subsribers

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chengthao wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Common sense tells me that: multiplayer components take up space on the disk, which means there is less space for more SP, therefore having MP equals less of what we all want, which is more SP.

Then you have not played Battlefield 3 or COD have you? that statement isn't true 
also as you stating "we all want more SP" where the hell did you pull that out of your butt to come up with that Statistic? Majority of the Fans  Asked for MP  and bioware Decided to do so  for Future Games  EA could do one Disc Solely for  SP and the other for MP  Like battlefield did Since both are in the rights of Copying that idea  since their "owned"  by EA


and where did you pull that statistic from?

BF3 and COD do not have a good SP campaign


theirs sources on the Web and My sister Works at EA  most of my information comes Directly from her  the classified  Stuff that bioware/ea doesn't want  us to know is strictly her know how   but the point is their Listenting to us   unlike COD being Completely Sexists  as well As battlefield   but Look at The facts about ME2  the Fans Wanted tali and Garrus back  they put them back and made them The classic icons they are  even Ash  is back and a good majority wanted her back to Also recourcees from my sister  as for the sources on webs that i have Soley stated i will Look up my sources  on which websites i found  it  and i will post here but my memory isn't that good  unless i memorize  it over time "hence the information" i know from my sister that every one seems to think bioware is just another Money grabbing company when thats not true.

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Sarah Knight wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Common sense tells me that: multiplayer components take up space on the disk, which means there is less space for more SP, therefore having MP equals less of what we all want, which is more SP.

Then you have not played Battlefield 3 or COD have you? that statement isn't true 
also as you stating "we all want more SP" where the hell did you pull that out of your butt to come up with that Statistic? Majority of the Fans  Asked for MP  and bioware Decided to do so  for Future Games  EA could do one Disc Solely for  SP and the other for MP  Like battlefield did Since both are in the rights of Copying that idea  since their "owned"  by EA


and where did you pull that statistic from?

BF3 and COD do not have a good SP campaign


theirs sources on the Web and My sister Works at EA  most of my information comes Directly from her  the classified  Stuff that bioware/ea doesn't want  us to know is strictly her know how   but the point is their Listenting to us   unlike COD being Completely Sexists  as well As battlefield   but Look at The facts about ME2  the Fans Wanted tali and Garrus back  they put them back and made them The classic icons they are  even Ash  is back and a good majority wanted her back to Also recourcees from my sister  as for the sources on webs that i have Soley stated i will Look up my sources  on which websites i found  it  and i will post here but my memory isn't that good  unless i memorize  it over time "hence the information" i know from my sister that every one seems to think bioware is just another Money grabbing company when thats not true.


your sister works for ea? yea im pretty much calling bs on that since thats the most commonly used line in every internet forum

if your sister works for ea and gives you intel then im banging beyonce

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Sarah Knight wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Common sense tells me that: multiplayer components take up space on the disk, which means there is less space for more SP, therefore having MP equals less of what we all want, which is more SP.

Then you have not played Battlefield 3 or COD have you? that statement isn't true 
also as you stating "we all want more SP" where the hell did you pull that out of your butt to come up with that Statistic? Majority of the Fans  Asked for MP  and bioware Decided to do so  for Future Games  EA could do one Disc Solely for  SP and the other for MP  Like battlefield did Since both are in the rights of Copying that idea  since their "owned"  by EA


and where did you pull that statistic from?

BF3 and COD do not have a good SP campaign


theirs sources on the Web and My sister Works at EA  most of my information comes Directly from her  the classified  Stuff that bioware/ea doesn't want  us to know is strictly her know how   but the point is their Listenting to us   unlike COD being Completely Sexists  as well As battlefield   but Look at The facts about ME2  the Fans Wanted tali and Garrus back  they put them back and made them The classic icons they are  even Ash  is back and a good majority wanted her back to Also recourcees from my sister  as for the sources on webs that i have Soley stated i will Look up my sources  on which websites i found  it  and i will post here but my memory isn't that good  unless i memorize  it over time "hence the information" i know from my sister that every one seems to think bioware is just another Money grabbing company when thats not true.


so your answer is "i dont have proof but it exists b/c i say so"

1 or 2 ppl asking for MP isn't the same as a majority of ppl asking for MP

did EA take a poll or a survey and if they did . . . . why hide it?

unless you can actually bring actual proof . . . than your arguement is as good as someone who says the majority of fans didn't want MP

were you even around when they were just specualting about MP . . . BSN turned into a sh!tstorm not to mention a whole bunch of gaming sites like IGN and Gamespot . . . . doesn't seem like a majority wanted MP

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Tazzmission wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Common sense tells me that: multiplayer components take up space on the disk, which means there is less space for more SP, therefore having MP equals less of what we all want, which is more SP.

Then you have not played Battlefield 3 or COD have you? that statement isn't true 
also as you stating "we all want more SP" where the hell did you pull that out of your butt to come up with that Statistic? Majority of the Fans  Asked for MP  and bioware Decided to do so  for Future Games  EA could do one Disc Solely for  SP and the other for MP  Like battlefield did Since both are in the rights of Copying that idea  since their "owned"  by EA


and where did you pull that statistic from?

BF3 and COD do not have a good SP campaign


theirs sources on the Web and My sister Works at EA  most of my information comes Directly from her  the classified  Stuff that bioware/ea doesn't want  us to know is strictly her know how   but the point is their Listenting to us   unlike COD being Completely Sexists  as well As battlefield   but Look at The facts about ME2  the Fans Wanted tali and Garrus back  they put them back and made them The classic icons they are  even Ash  is back and a good majority wanted her back to Also recourcees from my sister  as for the sources on webs that i have Soley stated i will Look up my sources  on which websites i found  it  and i will post here but my memory isn't that good  unless i memorize  it over time "hence the information" i know from my sister that every one seems to think bioware is just another Money grabbing company when thats not true.


your sister works for ea? yea im pretty much calling bs on that since thats the most commonly used line in every internet forum

if your sister works for ea and gives you intel then im banging beyonce


wait . . . . Beyonce is cheating on me?

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The single-player team is made up of ravagers. They hit hard, but they're slow as snot.

The multiplayer team is made up of the little bugs that spill out of the ravagers when they die. They may be quick, but they're pretty inconsequential.

Single-player goods will come. You just have to wait for them to waddle those big, bloated bodies over this way.

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Tazzmission wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Common sense tells me that: multiplayer components take up space on the disk, which means there is less space for more SP, therefore having MP equals less of what we all want, which is more SP.

Then you have not played Battlefield 3 or COD have you? that statement isn't true 
also as you stating "we all want more SP" where the hell did you pull that out of your butt to come up with that Statistic? Majority of the Fans  Asked for MP  and bioware Decided to do so  for Future Games  EA could do one Disc Solely for  SP and the other for MP  Like battlefield did Since both are in the rights of Copying that idea  since their "owned"  by EA


and where did you pull that statistic from?

BF3 and COD do not have a good SP campaign


theirs sources on the Web and My sister Works at EA  most of my information comes Directly from her  the classified  Stuff that bioware/ea doesn't want  us to know is strictly her know how   but the point is their Listenting to us   unlike COD being Completely Sexists  as well As battlefield   but Look at The facts about ME2  the Fans Wanted tali and Garrus back  they put them back and made them The classic icons they are  even Ash  is back and a good majority wanted her back to Also recourcees from my sister  as for the sources on webs that i have Soley stated i will Look up my sources  on which websites i found  it  and i will post here but my memory isn't that good  unless i memorize  it over time "hence the information" i know from my sister that every one seems to think bioware is just another Money grabbing company when thats not true.


your sister works for ea? yea im pretty much calling bs on that since thats the most commonly used line in every internet forum

if your sister works for ea and gives you intel then im banging beyonce


Believe what you Want no one pays you  for your opinion do they? no they don't  and honestly  i am telling the truth  and you know for a fact even if i wanted to prove you wrong  Bioware/EA's  Accounts are  only Soley  used for forums   Not communicating   with the Day to Day Bickering  you  or any one else does even the so called  "TROLLS" that fail   at their Attemptts  but  i don't care what you think honestly   nor any one else  i know whats the truth and whats not  any way    I'm not going to waste my breath on some one  who "thinks"  he or she is funny   or even a so called "good troll"<_<

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'2 teams' means nothing.

STRATEGY A: They invested a certain amount of cash into the game. If they had 2 teams then the cash would be distributed between them. So less green for SP

A few members of the original SP team would also work on the other project exclusively or do a bit of both.

OR

STRATEGY B: They might of realised they could make more money from MP's microtransactions and then invested extra money for MP, not taking anything away from SP

Most likely....they were not sure how much money would be made from MP in a SP game so they played it safe and did STRATEGY A. i mean how much extra money had been made in SP games with a MP add-on before ME3... (assassin's creed?, FIFA?, etc)

Maybe in the future MP won't eat into SP budget. But for ME3 its logical to assume that it did


i don't See how you figure and FIFA  if my memory Serves is just  a sport game.

their Are companies that did Two team Scenario's  and i know EA and Bioware are one of them that Fairly pay's its employees despite the rep they have  who knows every thing we know about Ea that we read on  the websites could be a Lie  and everything bioware and EA been telling us on their websites being the cold facts of the truth.


but as for your "Statement" about budget A thats not Entirely  true   Battlefield 3 for example Look how that Game turned out Game informer Gave that a  9.5 Due to Superb Multiplayer and SP Their are Allot of fans that actually Support the Dev Team on Mass effect 3 and what they did but their are some minor plotholes  that they need to rectify  Mostly Star child and Star gazer  and the explanation of how your crew got on normandy  while you wer opening the arms  again  ... but the point is  Their Are  companies that Do Release  a crappy game at first then correct it while  the one that didn't do so well  gets worked on through extra DLC and Closure which is what Bioware is doing    For All we know they could of changed the Ending and didn't  want us to know the real one upon its released and some idiot released it and they  removed  the portion of what was   (released) through press etc   was changed so that the fans that don't want the ending changed "hence the positive feed back" those that didn't care and wanted  the ending the wer promised "negative side" wanted what the press Said  in their  talk about mass effect that got their hopes and dreams up  while the  the positive side  starts to flame at bioware because they chose the negative side over them  in my opionion it could be any number of ways where as bioware had to make a few tough calls   along their road of releasing it  and the fact that this game  i know will be best seller since it is a block buster Seller and i know that their are still copies of this game still being bought  despite the negative Feed back the negative side is going for  but SP needs to be  changed a tad bit at the ending  and to have the dreams explained a bit more to...

Also sorry for my english  i tend to ramble allot and i'm also not good with  English and punctions and all that  crap...


Dudee (or lass) structure your reply in paragraphs or something

I see the point you are trying to make but you have missed my point. BW/EA is a business..they invest money based on expected returns.

ME3 MP is making money from micro-transactions..players pay real money to buy spectre packs. that builds up.

I mentioned FIFA because a lot of people play it online but there are either no micro transactions or there is little no point. are you going to pay to unlock better dribbling for messi? that would be silly. So no extra money is being made there.

Battlefield does not count because up to recently there were no micro transcations to profit from. And its main sell is its MP. SP is like 7 hrs.

Therefore there is not a precident on how much money a mainly SP game will make with a MP micro transactions. ME multiplayer was made to make money. You can tell this from the menu revolving around buying spectre packs.

Thus the decision to either split the initial ME3 investment between 2 teams...or to increase invest due to multiplayer is a difficult one. As there is not a precident I reached the conclusion they would be cautious and not spend extra money.

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Single player is dead anyway, its the end of a trilogy. The real replayability rests with multiplayer, just like any other action game regardless of it being an RPG or not.

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chengthao wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Common sense tells me that: multiplayer components take up space on the disk, which means there is less space for more SP, therefore having MP equals less of what we all want, which is more SP.

Then you have not played Battlefield 3 or COD have you? that statement isn't true 
also as you stating "we all want more SP" where the hell did you pull that out of your butt to come up with that Statistic? Majority of the Fans  Asked for MP  and bioware Decided to do so  for Future Games  EA could do one Disc Solely for  SP and the other for MP  Like battlefield did Since both are in the rights of Copying that idea  since their "owned"  by EA


and where did you pull that statistic from?

BF3 and COD do not have a good SP campaign


theirs sources on the Web and My sister Works at EA  most of my information comes Directly from her  the classified  Stuff that bioware/ea doesn't want  us to know is strictly her know how   but the point is their Listenting to us   unlike COD being Completely Sexists  as well As battlefield   but Look at The facts about ME2  the Fans Wanted tali and Garrus back  they put them back and made them The classic icons they are  even Ash  is back and a good majority wanted her back to Also recourcees from my sister  as for the sources on webs that i have Soley stated i will Look up my sources  on which websites i found  it  and i will post here but my memory isn't that good  unless i memorize  it over time "hence the information" i know from my sister that every one seems to think bioware is just another Money grabbing company when thats not true.


so your answer is "i dont have proof but it exists b/c i say so"

1 or 2 ppl asking for MP isn't the same as a majority of ppl asking for MP

did EA take a poll or a survey and if they did . . . . why hide it?

unless you can actually bring actual proof . . . than your arguement is as good as someone who says the majority of fans didn't want MP

were you even around when they were just specualting about MP . . . BSN turned into a sh!tstorm not to mention a whole bunch of gaming sites like IGN and Gamespot . . . . doesn't seem like a majority wanted MP


Ah the "classic  separate account trick" very Cute Troll   why would i prove my self to you when your idiotic mind Could do the work and find the same Sources i am talking about? oh right its because you  and your other acc that you use  "to troll" others can't even  Search the internet properly   because your afraid the big bad ol Virus  will destroy  your computer do us All  a favor Troll  GTFO  and go shoot yourself  and save it for another website that actually "deserves it"  like COD or battlefield  when they make worse games than bioware does. any way i'm not going to waste my breath on   a Pathetic Troll   that loves to use two acc's  just to  be  a moron that thinks their all that-_-

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Sarah Knight wrote...

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Common sense tells me that: multiplayer components take up space on the disk, which means there is less space for more SP, therefore having MP equals less of what we all want, which is more SP.

Then you have not played Battlefield 3 or COD have you? that statement isn't true 
also as you stating "we all want more SP" where the hell did you pull that out of your butt to come up with that Statistic? Majority of the Fans  Asked for MP  and bioware Decided to do so  for Future Games  EA could do one Disc Solely for  SP and the other for MP  Like battlefield did Since both are in the rights of Copying that idea  since their "owned"  by EA

Remind me again why are you comparing ME which is a completely SP only franchise to COD/BF which focus on MP only and no one gives a **** about their SP.

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Icemix wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Common sense tells me that: multiplayer components take up space on the disk, which means there is less space for more SP, therefore having MP equals less of what we all want, which is more SP.

Then you have not played Battlefield 3 or COD have you? that statement isn't true 
also as you stating "we all want more SP" where the hell did you pull that out of your butt to come up with that Statistic? Majority of the Fans  Asked for MP  and bioware Decided to do so  for Future Games  EA could do one Disc Solely for  SP and the other for MP  Like battlefield did Since both are in the rights of Copying that idea  since their "owned"  by EA

Remind me again why are you comparing ME which is a completely SP only franchise to COD/BF which focus on MP only and no one gives a **** about their SP.



i wanted to do SP missions, or co-op story missions with friends. Not horde mode...over and over again :blink:

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Sarah Knight wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Common sense tells me that: multiplayer components take up space on the disk, which means there is less space for more SP, therefore having MP equals less of what we all want, which is more SP.

Then you have not played Battlefield 3 or COD have you? that statement isn't true 
also as you stating "we all want more SP" where the hell did you pull that out of your butt to come up with that Statistic? Majority of the Fans  Asked for MP  and bioware Decided to do so  for Future Games  EA could do one Disc Solely for  SP and the other for MP  Like battlefield did Since both are in the rights of Copying that idea  since their "owned"  by EA


and where did you pull that statistic from?

BF3 and COD do not have a good SP campaign


theirs sources on the Web and My sister Works at EA  most of my information comes Directly from her  the classified  Stuff that bioware/ea doesn't want  us to know is strictly her know how   but the point is their Listenting to us   unlike COD being Completely Sexists  as well As battlefield   but Look at The facts about ME2  the Fans Wanted tali and Garrus back  they put them back and made them The classic icons they are  even Ash  is back and a good majority wanted her back to Also recourcees from my sister  as for the sources on webs that i have Soley stated i will Look up my sources  on which websites i found  it  and i will post here but my memory isn't that good  unless i memorize  it over time "hence the information" i know from my sister that every one seems to think bioware is just another Money grabbing company when thats not true.


so your answer is "i dont have proof but it exists b/c i say so"

1 or 2 ppl asking for MP isn't the same as a majority of ppl asking for MP

did EA take a poll or a survey and if they did . . . . why hide it?

unless you can actually bring actual proof . . . than your arguement is as good as someone who says the majority of fans didn't want MP

were you even around when they were just specualting about MP . . . BSN turned into a sh!tstorm not to mention a whole bunch of gaming sites like IGN and Gamespot . . . . doesn't seem like a majority wanted MP


Ah the "classic  separate account trick" very Cute Troll   why would i prove my self to you when your idiotic mind Could do the work and find the same Sources i am talking about? oh right its because you  and your other acc that you use  "to troll" others can't even  Search the internet properly   because your afraid the big bad ol Virus  will destroy  your computer do us All  a favor Troll  GTFO  and go shoot yourself  and save it for another website that actually "deserves it"  like COD or battlefield  when they make worse games than bioware does. any way i'm not going to waste my breath on   a Pathetic Troll   that loves to use two acc's  just to  be  a moron that thinks their all that-_-


except i don't have a separate account

way to assume i do b/c others disagree with you

clearly intelligence isn't a strong point for you

you have no proof and are obviously a liar

i googled "majority of fans want MP in Mass Effect" . . . . it came back with nothing supporting your claim

failed troll is failed troll

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i googled "majority of fans want MP in Mass Effect" . . . . it came back with nothing supporting your claim

hahahah