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[Sarah Knight]

Drake-Shepard wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Drake-Shepard wrote...

'2 teams' means nothing.

STRATEGY A: They invested a certain amount of cash into the game. If they had 2 teams then the cash would be distributed between them. So less green for SP

A few members of the original SP team would also work on the other project exclusively or do a bit of both.

OR

STRATEGY B: They might of realised they could make more money from MP's microtransactions and then invested extra money for MP, not taking anything away from SP

Most likely....they were not sure how much money would be made from MP in a SP game so they played it safe and did STRATEGY A. i mean how much extra money had been made in SP games with a MP add-on before ME3... (assassin's creed?, FIFA?, etc)

Maybe in the future MP won't eat into SP budget. But for ME3 its logical to assume that it did

i don't See how you figure and FIFA  if my memory Serves is just  a sport game.

their Are companies that did Two team Scenario's  and i know EA and Bioware are one of them that Fairly pay's its employees despite the rep they have  who knows every thing we know about Ea that we read on  the websites could be a Lie  and everything bioware and EA been telling us on their websites being the cold facts of the truth.


but as for your "Statement" about budget A thats not Entirely  true   Battlefield 3 for example Look how that Game turned out Game informer Gave that a  9.5 Due to Superb Multiplayer and SP Their are Allot of fans that actually Support the Dev Team on Mass effect 3 and what they did but their are some minor plotholes  that they need to rectify  Mostly Star child and Star gazer  and the explanation of how your crew got on normandy  while you wer opening the arms  again  ... but the point is  Their Are  companies that Do Release  a crappy game at first then correct it while  the one that didn't do so well  gets worked on through extra DLC and Closure which is what Bioware is doing    For All we know they could of changed the Ending and didn't  want us to know the real one upon its released and some idiot released it and they  removed  the portion of what was   (released) through press etc   was changed so that the fans that don't want the ending changed "hence the positive feed back" those that didn't care and wanted  the ending the wer promised "negative side" wanted what the press Said  in their  talk about mass effect that got their hopes and dreams up  while the  the positive side  starts to flame at bioware because they chose the negative side over them  in my opionion it could be any number of ways where as bioware had to make a few tough calls   along their road of releasing it  and the fact that this game  i know will be best seller since it is a block buster Seller and i know that their are still copies of this game still being bought  despite the negative Feed back the negative side is going for  but SP needs to be  changed a tad bit at the ending  and to have the dreams explained a bit more to...

Also sorry for my english  i tend to ramble allot and i'm also not good with  English and punctions and all that  crap...

Dudee (or lass) structure your reply in paragraphs or something

I see the point you are trying to make but you have missed my point. BW/EA is a business..they invest money based on expected returns.

ME3 MP is making money from micro-transactions..players pay real money to buy spectre packs. that builds up.

I mentioned FIFA because a lot of people play it online but there are either no micro transactions or there is little no point. are you going to pay to unlock better dribbling for messi? that would be silly. So no extra money is being made there.

Battlefield does not count because up to recently there were no micro transcations to profit from. And its main sell is its MP. SP is like 7 hrs.

Therefore there is not a precident on how much money a mainly SP game will make with a MP micro transactions. ME multiplayer was made to make money. You can tell this from the menu revolving around buying spectre packs.

Thus the decision to either split the initial ME3 investment between 2 teams...or to increase invest due to multiplayer is a difficult one. As there is not a precident I reached the conclusion they would be cautious and not spend extra money.

(Lass btw)   as for that  i understand now  sorry for my mistake on not understanding your   Comment and yes its true  that MP is more investment than SP was for battlefield  even the same Said for Cod tho their Charging people $50 a month so i understand their  Dlc  that they have you pay just for Extended dlc  maps for   certain game modes >_<

As for my comments yes i'll try that from now on thank you  for giving me tips  on that  (any Sarcastic comments from Trolls including cruel ones will be ignored)

[razviolet]

I don't buy Bioware games for mindless multiplayer. I buy them for the incredibly in depth story and amazing voice acting. I think a proper finish to the trilogy should take priority over boring, watered down, bandwagon multiplayer. If they start focusing only on online multiplayer I will never buy another Bioware game.

Modifié par razviolet, 15 mai 2012 - 10:29 .

[Heather Cline]

I agree with the OP fix the SP portion of the game.

[Siansonea]

Is BioWare focusing on multiplayer? Given all the gripes people have about multiplayer (especially the store), none of which are really being addressed, I hadn't noticed. I think they're all just sitting around drinking 12-year-old Scotch, congratulating themselves, and high-fiving EA and IGN executives. Or something like that.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 15 mai 2012 - 10:31 .

[razviolet]

Siansonea II wrote...

Is BioWare focusing on multiplayer? Given all the gripes people have about multiplayer (especially the store), none of which are really being addressed, I hadn't noticed. I think they're all just sitting around drinking 12-year-old Scotch congratulating themselves and high-fiving EA and IGN executives. Or something like that.

"Is BioWare focusing on multiplayer?" Not that I've noticed. I'm just reminding the Halo and CoD babies what the game has always been more focused on.

As for the self congratulating...I think I would be too. They worked damned hard on the trilogy. ME3 just has some...faults.

Modifié par razviolet, 15 mai 2012 - 10:38 .

[Sarah Knight]

chengthao wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

chengthao wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

Icemix wrote...

Common sense tells me that: multiplayer components take up space on the disk, which means there is less space for more SP, therefore having MP equals less of what we all want, which is more SP.

Then you have not played Battlefield 3 or COD have you? that statement isn't true 
also as you stating "we all want more SP" where the hell did you pull that out of your butt to come up with that Statistic? Majority of the Fans  Asked for MP  and bioware Decided to do so  for Future Games  EA could do one Disc Solely for  SP and the other for MP  Like battlefield did Since both are in the rights of Copying that idea  since their "owned"  by EA

and where did you pull that statistic from?

BF3 and COD do not have a good SP campaign

theirs sources on the Web and My sister Works at EA  most of my information comes Directly from her  the classified  Stuff that bioware/ea doesn't want  us to know is strictly her know how   but the point is their Listenting to us   unlike COD being Completely Sexists  as well As battlefield   but Look at The facts about ME2  the Fans Wanted tali and Garrus back  they put them back and made them The classic icons they are  even Ash  is back and a good majority wanted her back to Also recourcees from my sister  as for the sources on webs that i have Soley stated i will Look up my sources  on which websites i found  it  and i will post here but my memory isn't that good  unless i memorize  it over time "hence the information" i know from my sister that every one seems to think bioware is just another Money grabbing company when thats not true.

so your answer is "i dont have proof but it exists b/c i say so"

1 or 2 ppl asking for MP isn't the same as a majority of ppl asking for MP

did EA take a poll or a survey and if they did . . . . why hide it?

unless you can actually bring actual proof . . . than your arguement is as good as someone who says the majority of fans didn't want MP

were you even around when they were just specualting about MP . . . BSN turned into a sh!tstorm not to mention a whole bunch of gaming sites like IGN and Gamespot . . . . doesn't seem like a majority wanted MP

Ah the "classic  separate account trick" very Cute Troll   why would i prove my self to you when your idiotic mind Could do the work and find the same Sources i am talking about? oh right its because you  and your other acc that you use  "to troll" others can't even  Search the internet properly   because your afraid the big bad ol Virus  will destroy  your computer do us All  a favor Troll  GTFO  and go shoot yourself  and save it for another website that actually "deserves it"  like COD or battlefield  when they make worse games than bioware does. any way i'm not going to waste my breath on   a Pathetic Troll   that loves to use two acc's  just to  be  a moron that thinks their all that-_-

except i don't have a separate account

way to assume i do b/c others disagree with you

clearly intelligence isn't a strong point for you

you have no proof and are obviously a liar

i googled "majority of fans want MP in Mass Effect" . . . . it came back with nothing supporting your claim

failed troll is failed troll

"except i don't have a seperate account"   Yea  very funny  you do     theirs no way in hell you and that other account would of replied over that stupid beyonce  statemtent  within  a minute apart   NO ONE and i do MEAN NO ONE  would   Reply within Minute appart  from that comment

and yes their is moron you didn't do it right  and believe what you want no one really gives a crap what you think Troll.

Also another known fact  about two acc's  is the Way that they Talk And Type  you and that Account Typed Exactly The Same   Just  a slight Different opinion  even then it was easier to find out it is you   Lie to me all you want  but the Facts Stands in your  comment and your Alt Acc's comments Last comment you'll get from me  IDGAF what you  think  really  hell  i could find you  dead and i'd just laugh and Walk off  without Telling any one that you died thats just  my opinion of what i think about you  but i'm not going to be  paying attention to your comments or your ALT acc's  comment-_-

[Chris Priestly]

We're not.

Yes, we are supporting Multiplayer, but not exclusively. As pretty much everyone knows, we are making the Extended Cut DLC to address concerns over the endings of the game and we have more Single Player story based content coming as well.

[Sarah Knight]

Nyoka wrote...

Hmmm, they are doing the extended cut for SP, aren't they?

Yes they Are doing Extended cut it seems the  "SP" Squence started up again because of the so called forum   Creator  posted this.

[Gold Dragon]

Chris Priestly wrote...
we have more Single Player story based content coming as well.

This is good to hear.

[chengthao]

Sarah Knight wrote...

chengthao wrote...

except i don't have a separate account

way to assume i do b/c others disagree with you

clearly intelligence isn't a strong point for you

you have no proof and are obviously a liar

i googled "majority of fans want MP in Mass Effect" . . . . it came back with nothing supporting your claim

failed troll is failed troll

"except i don't have a seperate account"   Yea  very funny  you do     theirs no way in hell you and that other account would of replied over that stupid beyonce  statemtent  within  a minute apart   NO ONE and i do MEAN NO ONE  would   Reply within Minute appart  from that comment

and yes their is moron you didn't do it right  and believe what you want no one really gives a crap what you think Troll.

Also another known fact  about two acc's  is the Way that they Talk And Type  you and that Account Typed Exactly The Same   Just  a slight Different opinion  even then it was easier to find out it is you   Lie to me all you want  but the Facts Stands in your  comment and your Alt Acc's comments Last comment you'll get from me  IDGAF what you  think  really  hell  i could find you  dead and i'd just laugh and Walk off  without Telling any one that you died thats just  my opinion of what i think about you  but i'm not going to be  paying attention to your comments or your ALT acc's  comment-_-

right . . . so your proof that i have 2 accounts is b/c i replied within a minute of it

not sure how often your on BSN but you'd know Tazmission is on here quite often

obvious liar is obvious liar

you say proof exist but can't actually cite it

angry troll is angry b/c i called her out as a obvious liar

lol

[jakenou]

RE: OP...

dsl08002 wrote...

One thing that worries me is that bioware will focus on mutliplayer rather than singleplayer. its like they think for themself: "oh COD and BF3 has a multiplayer focus and we should do that ourself.

Don´t forget what mass effect is all about, epic role-playing and story adventure through singelplayer mode. 
i dont mind the Mp but they should put more efforts in making ME3 as a complete game, the crown jewel of the entire ME franchise  

what do you think?

Agreed/signed

Yeah it's business and all that, and yeah they have two separate teams for the MP and SP content - still, I say cut down (or preferably get rid of) the MP team and put that extra cash into the SP team. ME was always the furthest thing from a multiplayer game to me, and I think they mucked up both SP and MP simply by trying to plug MP into ME3. If I wanna play MP, I certainly don't wanna do it in ME3 and that's mostly an ethical stance. That they made MP only achievements, and that the SP experience can be affected by playing MP has really turned me off to ME3. There have been enough problems with the SP game as it is, and from what I've heard many seem to think MP is rather poor... so, almost my words exactly - for the love of the gods, forget MP altogether (and yes, I know it's too late for that. Just wishful thinking).

[Sarah Knight]

chengthao wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...

chengthao wrote...

except i don't have a separate account

way to assume i do b/c others disagree with you

clearly intelligence isn't a strong point for you

you have no proof and are obviously a liar

i googled "majority of fans want MP in Mass Effect" . . . . it came back with nothing supporting your claim

failed troll is failed troll

"except i don't have a seperate account"   Yea  very funny  you do     theirs no way in hell you and that other account would of replied over that stupid beyonce  statemtent  within  a minute apart   NO ONE and i do MEAN NO ONE  would   Reply within Minute appart  from that comment

and yes their is moron you didn't do it right  and believe what you want no one really gives a crap what you think Troll.

Also another known fact  about two acc's  is the Way that they Talk And Type  you and that Account Typed Exactly The Same   Just  a slight Different opinion  even then it was easier to find out it is you   Lie to me all you want  but the Facts Stands in your  comment and your Alt Acc's comments Last comment you'll get from me  IDGAF what you  think  really  hell  i could find you  dead and i'd just laugh and Walk off  without Telling any one that you died thats just  my opinion of what i think about you  but i'm not going to be  paying attention to your comments or your ALT acc's  comment-_-

right . . . so your proof that i have 2 accounts is b/c i replied within a minute of it

not sure how often your on BSN but you'd know Tazmission is on here quite often

obvious liar is obvious liar

you say proof exist but can't actually cite it

angry troll is angry b/c i called her out as a obvious liar

lol

You wer Saying  ?
http://www.product-r...-you-want-it/:P

[razviolet]

Chris Priestly wrote...

We're not.

Yes, we are supporting Multiplayer, but not exclusively. As pretty much everyone knows, we are making the Extended Cut DLC to address concerns over the endings of the game and we have more Single Player story based content coming as well.

I'm not trying to bash multiplayer..too badly...ok I have a biased against it, it's just not my thing. But the ones whining for it take priority...I have a beef with that:innocent:. However, I'm still all for people who want to expand on it. I love your games and look forward to all the new content.

[Drake-Shepard]

Sarah Knight wrote...


You wer Saying  ?
http://www.product-r...-you-want-it/:P

the title is a question.

look at the comments below the article... everyone is saying NO. or actual SP mission CO-OP. not no horde mode

Modifié par Drake-Shepard, 15 mai 2012 - 10:52 .

[DiebytheSword]

Its also pretty obvious that MP content can be made faster than SP content, I wouldn't call that focus, I'd call that reality.

[Sarah Knight]

razviolet wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

We're not.

Yes, we are supporting Multiplayer, but not exclusively. As pretty much everyone knows, we are making the Extended Cut DLC to address concerns over the endings of the game and we have more Single Player story based content coming as well.

I'm not trying to bash multiplayer..too badly...ok I have a biased against it, it's just not my thing. But the ones whining for it take priority...I have a beef with that:innocent:. However, I'm still all for people who want to expand on it. I love your games and look forward to all the new content.

Agreed Raz but don't get me  Wrong tho  Bioware only did a few minor Mistakes Star Child and Star Gazer both of which have no background or history  Sure The reapers wer the same thing  but they had facts  and in depth story line behind it  as did the Collectors  and every other race.

but the only Mistakes i've noticed was that the Star gazer and child should not be in the ending sequence at all  and to explain how your Crew got on board the normandy with more Dialogue in game and out of game (including combat) which Allies  could give you idk  maybe hints and tips on the field that you could use on certain enemies that you never thought was possible or something idk lol just thinking...

Also Chris  good job on Me3 give my thanks to the team oh and Chris one more thing that the MP team could do  Since  the  Krogan Battle master and Quarian both have skin tone  Why not Add  Dlc Armor for MP  Tailored  to the classes those that are able to  wear the Armor and  maybe something Exlcusive for the Geth,

Since their as we all know "workers for The quarians"  and maybe bring the Chakram  Argus   Prothean  Collecter indra and other DLC related weapons to All consoles   that weren't Exlsuive  or  those that "don't" have a means of obtaining them anymore since i know the  team already did the Collectors  edition sets.

[SeismicGravy]

Chris Priestly wrote...
we have more Single Player story based content coming as well.

Awesome.

Will Femshep be getting some new outfits though?  I'm thinking perhaps a regulation N7 leather jacket in black with the famous red stripe down one arm, and the N7 logo in the top right hand corner...........

Modifié par SeismicGravy, 15 mai 2012 - 11:04 .

[Sarah Knight]

Drake-Shepard wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...


You wer Saying  ?
http://www.product-r...-you-want-it/:P

the title is a question.

look at the comments below the article... everyone is saying NO. or actual SP mission CO-OP. not no horde mode

True but the Fact is thats just them thats not counting Facebook Google  or Twitter  Alone  which has  higher  comments or likes/tweets  and junk

[razviolet]

Sarah Knight wrote...


Agreed Raz but don't get me  Wrong tho  Bioware only did a few minor Mistakes Star Child and Star Gazer both of which have no background or history  Sure The reapers wer the same thing  but they had facts  and in depth story line behind it  as did the Collectors  and every other race.

but the only Mistakes i've noticed was that the Star gazer and child should not be in the ending sequence at all  and to explain how your Crew got on board the normandy with more Dialogue in game and out of game (including combat) which Allies  could give you idk  maybe hints and tips on the field that you could use on certain enemies that you never thought was possible or something idk lol just thinking...

Also Chris  good job on Me3 give my thanks to the team oh and Chris one more thing that the MP team could do  Since  the  Krogan Battle master and Quarian both have skin tone  Why not Add  Dlc Armor for MP  Tailored  to the classes those that are able to  wear the Armor and  maybe something Exlcusive for the Geth,

Since their as we all know "workers for The quarians"  and maybe bring the Chakram  Argus   Prothean  Collecter indra and other DLC related weapons to All consoles   that weren't Exlsuive  or  those that "don't" have a means of obtaining them anymore since i know the  team already did the Collectors  edition sets.

I could pick apart the minor issues all day. It's just hardwired into me from my old orchestra teacher of all things. While most people will clap and say you're amazingly perfect in every way, my teacher will only point out the bad so you focus on those topics and make the overall piece even more flawless. We won tons of class trophies so this method, though a kick in the teeth, does work from my experience.

Bioware did do a great job on ME3. I'm going to contradict myself by saying I really did love the game .

[Sarah Knight]

razviolet wrote...

Sarah Knight wrote...


Agreed Raz but don't get me  Wrong tho  Bioware only did a few minor Mistakes Star Child and Star Gazer both of which have no background or history  Sure The reapers wer the same thing  but they had facts  and in depth story line behind it  as did the Collectors  and every other race.

but the only Mistakes i've noticed was that the Star gazer and child should not be in the ending sequence at all  and to explain how your Crew got on board the normandy with more Dialogue in game and out of game (including combat) which Allies  could give you idk  maybe hints and tips on the field that you could use on certain enemies that you never thought was possible or something idk lol just thinking...

Also Chris  good job on Me3 give my thanks to the team oh and Chris one more thing that the MP team could do  Since  the  Krogan Battle master and Quarian both have skin tone  Why not Add  Dlc Armor for MP  Tailored  to the classes those that are able to  wear the Armor and  maybe something Exlcusive for the Geth,

Since their as we all know "workers for The quarians"  and maybe bring the Chakram  Argus   Prothean  Collecter indra and other DLC related weapons to All consoles   that weren't Exlsuive  or  those that "don't" have a means of obtaining them anymore since i know the  team already did the Collectors  edition sets.

I could pick apart the minor issues all day. It's just hardwired into me from my old orchestra teacher of all things. While most people will clap and say you're amazingly perfect in every way, my teacher will only point out the bad so you focus on those topics and make the overall piece even more flawless. We won tons of class trophies so this method, though a kick in the teeth, does work from my experience.

Bioware did do a great job on ME3. I'm going to contradict myself by saying I really did love the game .

Yea my Teachers were the same way with my math and my Music as well  Mostly singing tho  but we won Several but i do like Mass effec this is basically the only  Non sexist based game that i've played aside from Skyrim  that lets you choose during  SP and MP  based game play.  but  i do love it none the less.

[razviolet]

SeismicGravy wrote...

Awesome.

Will Femshep be getting some new outfits though?  I'm thinking perhaps a regulation N7 leather jacket in black with the famous red stripe down one arm, and the N7 logo in the top right hand corner...........

Off topic and completely wishful thinking but...I would love a DLC for new casual outfits and hairstyles, especially for femshep. That leather jacket on maleshep is making me jealous...and the dress on femshep when she sits sometimes...hysterical.

Modifié par razviolet, 15 mai 2012 - 11:20 .

[Mole267]

They want to charge us $1 to reload. I have yet to touch ME3's multiplayer, and I am really not interested in it... Mass Effect was never about mutliplayer. I wanted a singleplayer Mass Effect 3 with TONS of replay value, just like ME1 and 2 had. That's not what we got. Instead we got this, "Hey when you're done with singleplayer check out the multiplayer! Also please buy spectre packs!"

If they offered a DLC that cost $60, but removed multiplayer and made singleplayer what it should've been, I'd gladly pay it.

Modifié par Mole267, 15 mai 2012 - 11:28 .

[Sarah Knight]

razviolet wrote...

SeismicGravy wrote...

Awesome.

Will Femshep be getting some new outfits though?  I'm thinking perhaps a regulation N7 leather jacket in black with the famous red stripe down one arm, and the N7 logo in the top right hand corner...........

Off topic and completely wishful thinking but...I would love a DLC for new casual outfits and hairstyles, especially for femshep. That leather jacket on maleshep is making me jealous...and the dress on femshep when she sits sometimes...hysterical.

Agreed but maybe  Add Jacks old outfit for ME2 for Fem shepard or  add it as armor and allow you to run around with it in game or single player  maybe both single player and MP  heh 

[Ryuu814]

Mole267 wrote...

They want to charge us $1 to reload. I have yet to touch ME3's multiplayer, and I am really not interested in it... Mass Effect was never about mutliplayer. I wanted a singleplayer Mass Effect 3 with TONS of replay value, just like ME1 and 2 had. That's not what we got. Instead we got this, "Hey when you're done with singleplayer check out the multiplayer! Also please buy spectre packs!"

If they offered a DLC that cost $60, but removed multiplayer and made singleplayer what it should've been, I'd gladly pay it.

...you realise he was making an example of microtrasations using BF3 right? No-where in his statement did he say they were planning to do that.
Why does the internet blow stuff out of proportion all the time?
oh wait...internet...duh