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For the love of god, bioware don´t focus all your efforts on Multiplayer


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#101
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Brian.V3 wrote...

To be honest multiplayer is looking to be a waste as people start to get tired of it. For the first time the N7 Op Weekend mission even with PS3 owners now on board was a complete and utter failure.



i wouldnt call it a waste but it does become kind of blah after doing like 30 matches in one sitting

and as a person who hates mp ( and trust me i do with other games) and as much as i enjoy the me3 co-op mp i think its time to really add a new mode

im not suggesting team deathmatch or capture the flag but maybe player vs player is the best way to go

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Now lest all throw common sense out the window and just post whatever harebrained and panicky things that come to our mind first.

SPIDER!!!!!


:lol:

This man/woman has the right of it!

Regarding MP... if they aren't adding any new modes (which I hope to god they do, MP won't last long with just horde mode,) I don't think it wouldn't take THAT much of their time. It's not like the maps are huge or anything.

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This is what happens when a company that has made a strictly single player game for 2 iterations, decides to fold to the requests of the MP fans and include it in the final game.

Personally I think they should of went ahead and ended the trilogy as it started with a single player RPG. I am not a big MP player, but it doesn't bother me. There are soooo many games to satisfy the multiplayer crowd. I truly hope the single player RPG's are not becoming a thing of the past. That would suck.

What do I know though, I wanted a proper KotoR 3 not an MMO

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What effort? A few new skins?

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Dont blame BW, its EA who wants and forces MP to every single game so they can have small possibility to beat Activion's Call of Duty.

EA has been done some **** things, more than usually after CoD MW

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nicethugbert wrote...

What effort? A few new skins?


Lol. Most awesome my friend.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

We're not.

Yes, we are supporting Multiplayer, but not exclusively. As pretty much everyone knows, we are making the Extended Cut DLC to address concerns over the endings of the game and we have more Single Player story based content coming as well.



:devil:


a statement from bioware, IT MUST BE TURE, they (bioware in general) never lie to us. like the time they promised no a,b,c endings, or wildley different conclusions, or not doing a lost on the fans

we need a little bit more action and less words chris, and unfortunately your the only one who seems to be talking to us reasonably, bioware should learn

btw mass effect 3 does not meet the quality of standard that I expect from buying a bioware game (this is subjective, but I know other people feel this way)

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Still, why aren't new multiplayer guns in Single Player?!

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slimgrin wrote...

nicethugbert wrote...

What effort? A few new skins?


Lol. Most awesome my friend.


Indeed, good sir.

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nicethugbert wrote...

What effort? A few new skins?


Exactly. The MP "content" is skins, map and guns. The effort on that is not much, it is done by a different team.

The even worse thing is that I'm guessing the overlap of people whining about the ending and whining about MP is stunningly high so the reason we won't get any good SP DLC for an even longer time is that Bioware has to go "fix" and ending that can't be fixed.

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For ME3, I actually like the MP way more then the SP.

This coming from someone who, upon playing it, still thinks it was completely unnecessary in ME3.

AND THAT CAUSED GREAT CONFUSION IN THE HOUSE OF HAWKE AND SHEPARD.

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Cainne Chapel wrote...

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For the 6731957463175983rd time, multiplayer is developed by a seperate team with a seperate budget. How many times do we need to bring up this fact before people remember it. And MP is fun.


Yeah it's developed by a separate team, but budget? Don't make me laugh. If you really believe that then they've succesfully tricked you. 

-Polite


Actually Polite, working in the business world as long as I have, he MAY not be too far off base with that comment.
Of course many factors are involved and as I have no access to EA's internal memos and files etc. 

But when a project is worked on, usually the budget is forecasted from the get-go.  Now if something is added or needs to be changed additional funds can be made available on a per case basis.  So it is entirely possible that over the course of the game development EA alloted more funds than it would have to ensure that the MP portion got done, especially if they brought in another team whose sole purpose was to finish it.

You have to remember games dont have unlimited budgets and are produced usually witha  certain budget in mind from the outset.

Now could it have cut into the SP budget? Maybe, But we have about as much knowledge of that as we do anything else about EA's internal workings and budgets.

next to nothing.

 Yes, I am perfectly aware that games don't have unlimited budgets, but what I'm saying is that EA knew there was going to be multiplayer from the get go, so they took that into account while created the budget. What I was saying is that many people seem to think that halfway through, someone said,"oh, lets make multiplayer" and took 30% of the SP's planned budget for that. The project probably would have had a much smaller budget without the MP, since they just needed cash for the SP.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

We're not.

Yes, we are supporting Multiplayer, but not exclusively. As pretty much everyone knows, we are making the Extended Cut DLC to address concerns over the endings of the game and we have more Single Player story based content coming as well.



:devil:


To be honest - and since I enjoyed ME3 very much, even in it's current state - this makes me very happy to hear. ^^

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GODzilla_GSPB wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

We're not.

Yes, we are supporting Multiplayer, but not exclusively. As pretty much everyone knows, we are making the Extended Cut DLC to address concerns over the endings of the game and we have more Single Player story based content coming as well.



:devil:


To be honest - and since I enjoyed ME3 very much, even in it's current state - this makes me very happy to hear. ^^

Yeah. ME3 is already a 10/10 for me already. I can't wait for more.

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Chris Priestly wrote...

We're not.

Yes, we are supporting Multiplayer, but not exclusively.


:devil:


:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D.

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As already mentioned...this "separate team" still consumes funds, development resources, etc, that could be redirected towards a better Single Player product.   I certainly understand the premise behind implementing a "multiplayer" facet - making it seem more war-like with battle fronts in various locations - but my view of ME has always been a single player experience; I would've hoped to see these funds and development resources put to the SP experience...but it's not Jay's EA/Bioware... so I have no say but whether not I buy or play it.

Modifié par KrazyKiko, 18 mai 2012 - 10:00 .


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It isn't MP that has delayed SP content. Of course if I say the obvious I am going to get accused of trolling.

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 Multiplayer has a significant role in keeping ME3 alive right now. If it gets ignored, even more people will lose interest in the game.

Modifié par The Milky Waver, 19 mai 2012 - 02:22 .


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player vs player is the best way to go

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EA believes that there is no future for SP gaming.

And they intend to make that prophecy come true for all their games.


I don't blame EA for the ending or the fiasco that followed, but I sure as hell, think they're the reason for adding MP to a perfectly valid single player game that didn't need it.

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Oldbones2 wrote...

EA believes that there is no future for SP gaming.

And they intend to make that prophecy come true for all their games.


I don't blame EA for the ending or the fiasco that followed, but I sure as hell, think they're the reason for adding MP to a perfectly valid single player game that didn't need it.


Actually,  this is Used-Game DRM.  The entire purpose of the whole thing was to...

1.  Prevent games from being turned in.
2.  If they were,  forced the used game buyers to pay them anyways.

Then they threw in a bunch of stuff that they figured they could generate revenue from the crowd that pays to win instead of playing to win.

Regardless,  it'll be EA's downfall.  People are tired of DLC and Online Only.  Kickstarters have failed because of the mention of DLC,  and Diablo 3 is getting shredded for it's Online Only component,  in a game where it did make some sense.

EA's going to DLC itself out of buisness,  especially since they looked at the 40% attach rate of From Ashes and thought "What a success!",  instead of thinkig "Wait...this means more than half the people who bought the game thought negatively about our DLC policies".

They think it's a great scenario,  when what their takeaway should've been is "More than half of the customers don't like this plan,  and are less likely to purchase our future products".

They'll figure it out over the next year,  probably when they're trying to explain < $10/share stock prices to shareholders.

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pmac_tk421 wrote...

GODzilla_GSPB wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

We're not.

Yes, we are supporting Multiplayer, but not exclusively. As pretty much everyone knows, we are making the Extended Cut DLC to address concerns over the endings of the game and we have more Single Player story based content coming as well.



:devil:


To be honest - and since I enjoyed ME3 very much, even in it's current state - this makes me very happy to hear. ^^

Yeah. ME3 is already a 10/10 for me already. I can't wait for more.



Some good guys for once.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

GODzilla_GSPB wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

We're not.

Yes, we are supporting Multiplayer, but not exclusively. As pretty much everyone knows, we are making the Extended Cut DLC to address concerns over the endings of the game and we have more Single Player story based content coming as well.



:devil:


To be honest - and since I enjoyed ME3 very much, even in it's current state - this makes me very happy to hear. ^^

Yeah. ME3 is already a 10/10 for me already. I can't wait for more.



Some good guys for once.

Of course you say something like this. Veiled insult FTW I guess.

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jreezy wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

GODzilla_GSPB wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

We're not.

Yes, we are supporting Multiplayer, but not exclusively. As pretty much everyone knows, we are making the Extended Cut DLC to address concerns over the endings of the game and we have more Single Player story based content coming as well.



:devil:


To be honest - and since I enjoyed ME3 very much, even in it's current state - this makes me very happy to hear. ^^

Yeah. ME3 is already a 10/10 for me already. I can't wait for more.



Some good guys for once.

Of course you say something like this. Veiled insult FTW I guess.


lol "veiled insult"?  Someone is either hypersensitive or paranoid.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

jreezy wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

pmac_tk421 wrote...

GODzilla_GSPB wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

We're not.

Yes, we are supporting Multiplayer, but not exclusively. As pretty much everyone knows, we are making the Extended Cut DLC to address concerns over the endings of the game and we have more Single Player story based content coming as well.



:devil:


To be honest - and since I enjoyed ME3 very much, even in it's current state - this makes me very happy to hear. ^^

Yeah. ME3 is already a 10/10 for me already. I can't wait for more.



Some good guys for once.

Of course you say something like this. Veiled insult FTW I guess.


lol "veiled insult"?  Someone is either hypersensitive or paranoid.

Paranoid? Please. I'm just calling it like I see it.