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Will we ever hear from Mac Walters or Casey Hudson?


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They haven't appear anywhere anytime for anything have they?

Can someone confirm they are alive at least?

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lol, we may never hear from them again after this

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Silhouett3 wrote...

They haven't appear anywhere anytime for anything have they?

Can someone confirm they are alive at least?

LMAO.

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To be honest I blame Walters for most of this. Hudson can make great games.

But the moment Walters become the lead writer.

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT.


Really? That's odd, considering that the ending we got was pretty much the original ending.

And by original, I mean the one they've had for about 4+ years.

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It seems that Walters was not happy with Hudson's artistic vision on the ending.

Drew, we need you guy ! Come back !

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There apparent inactivity and lack of appearance reminds me of DA2 and David Gaider and Mike Laidlaw. I couldn't blame those gents for not being around either, much of the vitriol aimed at them is a bit much.

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cyrslash1974 wrote...

It seems that Walters was not happy with Hudson's artistic vision on the ending.

Drew, we need you guy ! Come back !


I do get tired of this.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Taboo-XX wrote...

To be honest I blame Walters for most of this. Hudson can make great games.

But the moment Walters become the lead writer.

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT.


Really? That's odd, considering that the ending we got was pretty much the original ending.

And by original, I mean the one they've had for about 4+ years.


I'm referring to implementation.

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Taboo-XX wrote...

I'm referring to implementation.


Ah. Forgive me, whenever I hear anything about the lead writer I immediately think about...well, what just happened like four posts ago.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

cyrslash1974 wrote...

It seems that Walters was not happy with Hudson's artistic vision on the ending.

Drew, we need you guy ! Come back !


I do get tired of this.


This doesn't change the fact that we liked the way Drew did things better. Their writing styles are different, you can't even pretend this isn't true. No matter what you think, something was lost along the way when they switched from one lead writer to another. This is just something you don't do midway through a trilogy.

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This doesn't change the fact that we liked the way Drew did things better. Their writing styles are different, you can't even pretend this isn't true. No matter what you think, something was lost along the way when they switched from one lead writer to another. This is just something you don't do midway through a trilogy.


Who is this "we" you speak of, precisely? I mean, you certainly don't presume to speak for people other than yourself, do you?=]


I found ME3's story to be better than every other BW story I've played, in ways.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Zuka999 wrote...

This doesn't change the fact that we liked the way Drew did things better. Their writing styles are different, you can't even pretend this isn't true. No matter what you think, something was lost along the way when they switched from one lead writer to another. This is just something you don't do midway through a trilogy.


Who is this "we" you speak of, precisly? I mean, you certainly don't presume to speak for people other than yourself, do you?=]


I found ME3's story to be better than every other BW story I've played, in ways.


I'm not going to play games with you, its obvious that most of the people on these forums are on a similar wavelength in regards to Mac Walters' writing style. We all loved the **** out of Mass Effect 2, which sseems to indicate Walters is best when he works with another lead writer.

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I'm not going to play games with you, its obvious that most of the people on these forums are on a similar wavelength in regards to Mac Walters' writing style. We all loved the **** out of Mass Effect 2, which sseems to indicate Walters is best when he works with another lead writer.


Are you kidding? People complained about ME2 just like they are about ME3 (except for the ending), and that's a fact.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Zuka999 wrote...

I'm not going to play games with you, its obvious that most of the people on these forums are on a similar wavelength in regards to Mac Walters' writing style. We all loved the **** out of Mass Effect 2, which sseems to indicate Walters is best when he works with another lead writer.


Are you kidding? People complained about ME2 just like they are about ME3 (except for the ending), and that's a fact.


^This, there were epic battles over Cerberus, Harbinger's cheesy lines and the collector base for many moons.  As well as the inclusion of Tali and Garrus.  Thats without going into the whole ME2 was useless in terms of the main plot meme.

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They know what they said and know what they did. This is on their hands and I'm hoping that the EC will reflect some semblance of guilt on their part.

As for all of this "NO, WE AREN'T CHANGING THE ENDING! ARTISTIC INTEGRITY VISION MAGIC!" I just attribute to bad PR.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Zuka999 wrote...

This doesn't change the fact that we liked the way Drew did things better. Their writing styles are different, you can't even pretend this isn't true. No matter what you think, something was lost along the way when they switched from one lead writer to another. This is just something you don't do midway through a trilogy.


Who is this "we" you speak of, precisely? I mean, you certainly don't presume to speak for people other than yourself, do you?=]


I found ME3's story to be better than every other BW story I've played, in ways.


The story before the ending ? Maybe
The ending ? You're joking, I assume.

I suggest you to read ME novels written by Drew. Then read Mass Effect : Deception. You will see the difference.

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*sighs* While I hate the endings, while I think they lied repeatedly about the endings etc, the sort of behaviour displayed by most people in this thread and in most of the forums is often quite appalling. There is no chance whatsoever that they will subject themselves to the vitriol being spewed, and with good reason. That said, however, they have also handled this debacle exceedingly poorly, with shoddy PR and vague, meaningless statements. So ultimately, some of the blame must be apportioned to both sides.

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The story before the ending ? Maybe
The ending ? You're joking, I assume.

I suggest you to read ME novels written by Drew. Then read Mass Effect : Deception. You will see the difference.


I speak of all of it.

You don't like it. That's fine. I won't fault you. But don't fault me for liking something you didn't.

And, mebbe. I really have no interest in them as they don't seem relevant to the games, and they kind of seem like fanfics, in idea.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

cyrslash1974 wrote...

The story before the ending ? Maybe
The ending ? You're joking, I assume.

I suggest you to read ME novels written by Drew. Then read Mass Effect : Deception. You will see the difference.


I speak of all of it.

You don't like it. That's fine. I won't fault you. But don't fault me for liking something you didn't.

And, mebbe. I really have no interest in them as they don't seem relevant to the games, and they kind of seem like fanfics, in idea.


No relevant to the games but to the universe. And ME is more than games. It's why a lot of people are here to defend (sorry, to save) this universe. It's not only games. It's my opinion,  but I respect yours.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

I found ME3's story to be better than every other BW story I've played, in ways.

You are making it increasingly more difficult for me to love you, EA.

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cyrslash1974 wrote...

No relevant to the games but to the universe. And ME is more than games. It's why a lot of people are here to defend (sorry, to save) this universe. It's not only games. It's my opinion,  but I respect yours.


I agree ME is more than the games, but the books just always struck me as what I said before--very fan-fic-ish, and comic-y.

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You are making it increasingly more difficult for me to love you, EA.


D:

Perhaps I should have been more specific. I was more referring to the atmosphere, the raw emotion that I've never felt in a BW game before.

Quite frankly, there were a couple of times where I was merely a short distance from crying, which is the absolute polar opposite of every other BW game I've played.

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EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Zuka999 wrote...

This doesn't change the fact that we liked the way Drew did things better. Their writing styles are different, you can't even pretend this isn't true. No matter what you think, something was lost along the way when they switched from one lead writer to another. This is just something you don't do midway through a trilogy.


Who is this "we" you speak of, precisely? I mean, you certainly don't presume to speak for people other than yourself, do you?=]


I found ME3's story to be better than every other BW story I've played, in ways.

ME3 the best story? Really? *Points at the Crucible* Most lazy plot device they could have come up with? The Crucible alone makes this story the weakest of the three. Suddenly, we have some superweapon now that we're going to pour all our last resources into even though we have no idea how it works! Brilliant! Not.

I understand the desperate times and desperate measures thing, but superweapons are lame storytelling. They're lame when they show up in Star Trek, Stargate, or any other science fiction story. We couldn't have possibly come up with a better way to have our characters fight the Reapers than with a superweapon? If they were really set on going the superweapon route (which makes me wonder about their creativity skills, for one), why not go with the gigantic mass accelerator weapon that took out the derelict Reaper in ME2? Why invent something completely new in the very last installment?

I might have found some of ME2's writing corny and laughable, but it was far superior to ME3 in terms of overall story. At least Shepard didn't go find some big bomb or gun during the derelict Reaper mission and went, "I have no idea what this does. Let's use it!"

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Probably not.

In case you didn't know they aren't exactly popular at the moment.

Modifié par Humanoid_Typhoon, 16 mai 2012 - 09:13 .


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Probably not.

In case you didn't know they aren't exactly popular at the moments.


I approve of your signature duo.