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[Bob3terd]

No whatever they say would get ripped apart, if they did say anything it would have been doctored heavily by pr types.
To be frank i dont want them to i have a feeling what they might have to say might make me think less of them. I dont want my disappointment and disdain for the ending to be focused onto some one, that changes me from a critic to a bully.

[AntonioA9011]

Tazzmission wrote...

i think we will if people dont act disgusting again torwards them and people who think they were right for doing so imo should honestly not even call themselves fans at all because no true fan would go as far as to say things as they did wich i wont repeat

Hmmmm...let's see.....
Lie to your wife/husband and see how angry she/he gets. Lie to your English Professor and see how angry he/she gets. Promise your wife/husband dinner and then renege at the last moment. See a correlation here, Tazzmission? People don't like to be lied to, cheated, or ****ed with.

[shepskisaac]

Zuka999 wrote...

Casey Hudson, You told us that we would see 16 wildly different endings.

Where did he say it. Quotes, links, sources.

[chemiclord]

Why do people even CARE what Hudson and Walters have to say?

If you think they're malicious liars, why would you even WANT to hear them lie to your faces again? So that you have reason to get ANGRIER?

[Blazer]

After they are done with their artistic mission they will come down to earth to face the music

[Sublyminal]

sw04ca wrote...

Sublyminal wrote...
The game didn't turn a profit. How many people got refunds from amazon, gamestop and even origin. Everyone who says bu bu the game turned a profit are being moronic. Who do you think has to reimburse amazon and gamestop, etc for returned games? That's right EA.

Since there weren't as many returned as you seem to think, that's not really a problem.  Also, how much do you think they made off of day 1 DLC with a high adoption rate and multiplayer packs?  The answer is:  Enough to turn a profit.

Do you realize how much it costs to really turn a profit on a blockbuster like this? Since most games now cost in the high 30s to make. Then you have to adverttise, then you have to factor in everything else. Now, include the 100 or so thousand copies returned to videogame retailers and that's just the US alone.

There is massive overhead in game devving. Even with the day 1 dlc assuming most people didn't just buy the collectors edition, is not enough to push them into a noticeable profit if there was any at all.

[Lex47]

I assume, that if we are to hear from them again, it'll be along the lines "ME3 was a great success, we're really thankful for your support - we did our best to bring you the most epic, refined and concluding end of Mass Effect Trilogy we could! And we are immensely joyful that we have succeeded in providing you with a game was praised this high! Our fanbase is the most precious thing to us as game developers, so it is a great pleasure to make a game that you can enjoy! And we are continuing to make it even better - with Extended Cut, even those few that were slightly confused about our game will be satisfied, for absolutely no extra charge!"
Someone mentioned living in denial, huh? Well, that's what their corporate policy is. They will not acknowledge the fact that there are flaws to the game they made, and neither will they acknowledge the existacne of an outcry caused by those flaws. 
Edit: At least not until few more months/years into the future, when denial will not affect any kind of profit made via dlc and game itself

Modifié par Lex47, 15 mai 2012 - 10:25 .

[20x6]

 You will never hear from them.
Right now, quite literally, they are lying on a bed of $50 bills, one of which was yours.
They have a rolled up bill snorting chopped up little bills from the ample bossom of one of their new-found harem who has an N7 tattoo on her lower back.  That's right, an N7 "Tramp Stamp".  If that isn't classy and tasteful I don't know what is!


If I am incorrect, here is another scenario....

They realize that there is no winner when opinions on the internet are involved, and that they have more important things to do right now 

[AntonioA9011]

Sublyminal wrote...

AntonioA9011 wrote...

Sublyminal wrote...

The game didn't turn a profit. How many people got refunds from amazon, gamestop and even origin. Everyone who says bu bu the game turned a profit are being moronic. Who do you think has to reimburse amazon and gamestop, etc for returned games? That's right EA.

You know, I wanted to say that, but I thought it would be rude.  I just let people live in denial/their own fantasy worlds. Live and let live I always say, but thanks for clarifying that.  

Wasn't trying to be rude to anyone, just dislike when people try to justify these two ignoring the very people that made them famous, by saying the game made a profit. When in all actuality it didn't if anything it lost money and will continue to lose money. EAs stock wouldn't have dropped almost 3$ if one of their best games made them a profit.

I wasn't trying to insuniate that you were being rude to anyone. I know that if I were to say it, it would have come off as rude and condescending, so I didn't say anything at all. People like to ignore the cold, hard facts when it's convenient for them. I didn't know the stock of EA dropped $3. I've also heard that Casey Hudson had a lot riding on ME3 with future projects and funding, somebody on here was telling me. It's kinda crazy that all of that is going to go out of the window now.

[Torrible]

Sublyminal wrote...
The game didn't turn a profit. How many people got refunds from amazon, gamestop and even origin. Everyone who says bu bu the game turned a profit are being moronic. Who do you think has to reimburse amazon and gamestop, etc for returned games? That's right EA.

LOL. Please find me 10 people in this forum who think the game didn't turn a profit. That is all. Reimbursement? If you say so. 

Modifié par Torrible, 15 mai 2012 - 10:31 .

[Kanaris]

Lex47 wrote...

I assume, that if we are to hear from them again, it'll be along the lines "ME3 was a great success, we're really thankful for your support - we did our best to bring you the most epic, refined and concluding end of Mass Effect Trilogy we could! And we are immensely joyful that we have succeeded in providing you with a game was praised this high! Our fanbase is the most precious thing to us as game developers, so it is a great pleasure to make a game that you can enjoy! And we are continuing to make it even better - with Extended Cut, even those few that were slightly confused about our game will be satisfied, for absolutely no extra charge!"
Someone mentioned living in denial, huh? Well, that's what their corporate policy is. They will not acknowledge the fact that there are flaws to the game they made, and neither will they acknowledge the existacne of an outcry caused by those flaws. 
Edit: At least not until few more months/years into the future, when denial will not affect any kind of profit made via dlc and game itself

**** man don't go giving them their speech at least make them think 3/4s of it up themselves. 

[sw04ca]

Sublyminal wrote...
Wasn't trying to be rude to anyone, just dislike when people try to justify these two ignoring the very people that made them famous, by saying the game made a profit. When in all actuality it didn't if anything it lost money and will continue to lose money. EAs stock wouldn't have dropped almost 3$ if one of their best games made them a profit.

The market as it relates to gaming companies is a lot more complex than you seem to think.  The fundamental weakness of EA, EA's diminishing relevance in the casual market, their poor marketing strategy or the fact that Origin has been pretty underwhelming so far have all been bigger factors than the success or failure of any single game, even AAA titles like Battlefield or Mass Effect.

The writers don't owe you anything because you feel that you made them famous.  That's stalker talk.

[ArchDuck]

You know to me, they have earned my scorn. I am not in the wrong for giving it.

They chose to be liars and cowards all on their own. I say this because if they had made an honest mistake with their pre-release statements then they would have said so by now. So I believe it is perfectly reasonable to assume that they were abusing my trust not committing a communication error. Cowards because they chose to hide behind outdated Propaganda Department "PR" swill and refuse to explain their choices OR admit to making any mistakes. One or the other is all that was required.

Am I harsh on them? Yes. Unfairly so? No.

Modifié par ArchDuck, 15 mai 2012 - 10:30 .

[NedPepper]

Here's a tip. Being hostile towards them is not going to get them to respond.

Do they need to step foward like Damon Lindelof of Lost or Stephen King's and the Dark Tower did and DEFEND their choices? I think so. But it has to be a healthy, non-hostile conversation, and I'm not sure this forum is capable of that.

[sw04ca]

Sublyminal wrote...
Do you realize how much it costs to really turn a profit on a blockbuster like this? Since most games now cost in the high 30s to make. Then you have to adverttise, then you have to factor in everything else. Now, include the 100 or so thousand copies returned to videogame retailers and that's just the US alone.

There is massive overhead in game devving. Even with the day 1 dlc assuming most people didn't just buy the collectors edition, is not enough to push them into a noticeable profit if there was any at all.

I know exactly how much it costs to make a AAA title like Mass Effect 3.  I stand by my statement.

[Kanaris]

nedpepper wrote...

Here's a tip. Being hostile towards them is not going to get them to respond.

Do they need to step foward like Damon Lindelof of Lost or Stephen King's and the Dark Tower did and DEFEND their choices? I think so. But it has to be a healthy, non-hostile conversation, and I'm not sure this forum is capable of that.

I can carry on a semi civil conversation with them about the game in general if they can over look the occasional smart assed remark.

Smart ass by nature can't be helped 

Modifié par Kanaris, 15 mai 2012 - 10:33 .

[Sohlito]

Best describes their reaction.

[ArchDuck]

nedpepper wrote...

Here's a tip. Being hostile towards them is not going to get them to respond.

Do they need to step foward like Damon Lindelof of Lost or Stephen King's and the Dark Tower did and DEFEND their choices? I think so. But it has to be a healthy, non-hostile conversation, and I'm not sure this forum is capable of that.

I don't need to bribe or baby them. If they want to be leaders (director & lead writer) they should know how to defend their choices in a reasonable and open manner. That's all they need to do.

[AntonioA9011]

Sohlito wrote...



Best describes their reaction.

Yup, yup. I wonder if that's how it looks when someone comes into their offices at BioWare.

[sw04ca]

Or they could just ignore the troll-infested forums, which is even easier.

[Vasparian]

Why would you want to know hear from known liars? They will just lie again.

[Sohlito]

sw04ca wrote...

Or they could just ignore the troll-infested forums, which is even easier.

So you're saying they don't have the internet?

[NedPepper]

Kanaris wrote...

nedpepper wrote...

Here's a tip. Being hostile towards them is not going to get them to respond.

Do they need to step foward like Damon Lindelof of Lost or Stephen King's and the Dark Tower did and DEFEND their choices? I think so. But it has to be a healthy, non-hostile conversation, and I'm not sure this forum is capable of that.

I can carry on a semi civil conversation with them about the game in general if they can over look the occasional smart assed remark.

Smart ass by nature can't be helped 

If they are like the Dragon Age 2 devs, I'm sure they can handle that.  But it took over a year for Epler and Gaider to sit down and start talking about D2 on the forums.  They let the irrational vitriol die down.  And the people left on the Dragon Age boards, you know fans, can talk to them about what they want to see in the future.  It's respectable and refreshing.  Compared to this cesspool.  That and Gaider has thick skin.  But you'd be amazed how far you can go without resorting to calling them "liars" or "greedy" or "they don't respect us" or "they don't care about the fans."  Until Mass Effect fans can learn to do that, I don't expect to hear from them.

Even though I'd LOVE to.  I want to hear their take on the game.  I think it would be interesting.