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Catamantaloedis wrote...

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It's because Shepard caused him to waver from the path of righteousness. A truly admirable man, whose doubts about his worthy goals were compromised by the forces of fundamental stupidity.


so TIM died out of sheer stupidity? that's hilarious!


A whole galaxy was shouting at him causing him to believe that his rational actions were evil. A man can only take so much universal criticism before he begins to doubt himself. The only sad part, is that the Illusive Man was so close. Literally, a few feet from ascending humanity from the pits to the command of the universe. 

Good thing my Shepard eventually chose the correct choice.


Well I think TIM had it wrong on 1 or 2 counts, why enslave every species or kill them. If I was TIM i'd form an empire where humanity ruled alongside the Krogan and Quarians. And the Council races get what they deserve, all except for Garrus of course lol.

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You might have a point, if the Illusive Man and Cerberus wasn't completely retarded.

Oh, and your trolling is getting even weaker.

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OP is indoctrinated, poor fella.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

Crypticqa wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

It's only because they are the brave few who are able to do what is necessary to secure humanty's place in the sun. Instead, the uneductaed, visionless majority would prefer to cede the power which humanity is most suited to wield. They are fools, and should be killed just as the Krogan and Geth deserve.


"Most suited to wield"? Do you know history my friend? Those who generally seek power are those WHO SHOULD NOT WIELD IT! Which is why I was mad when my choice to destroy the Collector Base got nullified because I didn't think TIM could be trusted with it, and lo, he proved it.

Plus, Humanity can still have it's place without huskifiying every living being under TIM's rule and destroying everyone else. It's called sharing.

I opposed Cerberus in ME1, I grudgingly worked together with them in 2, then I stole all thier nice stuff and killed 90% of them in ME3. The only way it could get better is if I could've stabbed TIM like his luetenant bastard Kei Leng.


TIM proved himself to be the only person who could wield that power by pushing it towards its full potential. Someone else would have gotten it wrong.

okay how long would it take before he had the reapers kill everything that wasn`t human or didn`t agree with his shades of gray speeches


No reason to kill every race when they can be lowered to the status of vassals to their human lords.


Human lords? I think you dont want to go there, it  is starting to be pretty extreme Image IPB


If humanity has the ability to take become the lords of the galaxy,  then that chance should be seized without hesitation. Do you doubt that the Asari (Stupid Overconfident Morons, who think they're better than Everyone Else because they got more Prothean Swag), Turians(who have an empire of lower, client races), or Salarians(who made the Krogan their slaves)  would do the same? 

There Man fixed it for you.

Modifié par TheClonesLegacy, 15 mai 2012 - 11:34 .


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Catamantaloedis wrote...

Crypticqa wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

It's only because they are the brave few who are able to do what is necessary to secure humanty's place in the sun. Instead, the uneductaed, visionless majority would prefer to cede the power which humanity is most suited to wield. They are fools, and should be killed just as the Krogan and Geth deserve.


"Most suited to wield"? Do you know history my friend? Those who generally seek power are those WHO SHOULD NOT WIELD IT! Which is why I was mad when my choice to destroy the Collector Base got nullified because I didn't think TIM could be trusted with it, and lo, he proved it.

Plus, Humanity can still have it's place without huskifiying every living being under TIM's rule and destroying everyone else. It's called sharing.

I opposed Cerberus in ME1, I grudgingly worked together with them in 2, then I stole all thier nice stuff and killed 90% of them in ME3. The only way it could get better is if I could've stabbed TIM like his luetenant bastard Kei Leng.


TIM proved himself to be the only person who could wield that power by pushing it towards its full potential. Someone else would have gotten it wrong.

okay how long would it take before he had the reapers kill everything that wasn`t human or didn`t agree with his shades of gray speeches


No reason to kill every race when they can be lowered to the status of vassals to their human lords.


Human lords? I think you dont want to go there, it  is starting to be pretty extreme Image IPB


If humanity has the ability to take become the lords of the galaxy,  then that chance should be seized without hesitation. Do you doubt that the Asari, Turians(who have an empire of lower, client races), or Salarians(who made the Krogan their slaves)  would do the same? 

Short answer: (edit) yes, i doubt it

Long Answer: Asari would never do it; they advocate peace and cooperation above all else
Turians would never do it; it's not an honorable way to win, and it's not honorably to attack allies
Salarians would never do it; it takes all the 'fun' out of trying to out think every one

Modifié par Mahrac, 15 mai 2012 - 11:33 .


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Asari advocate peace and cooperation in a galaxy that they dominate because of their economy and secret Prothean technology. They would jump at the chance to get more technological advancements to propel them, and their galactic order, further.

The Turians would not attack their allies, they would just use their advanced, Reaper supplemented military to show everyone how huge their metal d****s are, and use that for political leverage for their own advancement.

The Salarians don't care about fun. They prefer to have others fight their own battles and having a Reaper armada would fit right into Salarian doctrine. They would jump at this chance with the least hesitation of all.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

Crypticqa wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

It's only because they are the brave few who are able to do what is necessary to secure humanty's place in the sun. Instead, the uneductaed, visionless majority would prefer to cede the power which humanity is most suited to wield. They are fools, and should be killed just as the Krogan and Geth deserve.


"Most suited to wield"? Do you know history my friend? Those who generally seek power are those WHO SHOULD NOT WIELD IT! Which is why I was mad when my choice to destroy the Collector Base got nullified because I didn't think TIM could be trusted with it, and lo, he proved it.

Plus, Humanity can still have it's place without huskifiying every living being under TIM's rule and destroying everyone else. It's called sharing.

I opposed Cerberus in ME1, I grudgingly worked together with them in 2, then I stole all thier nice stuff and killed 90% of them in ME3. The only way it could get better is if I could've stabbed TIM like his luetenant bastard Kei Leng.


TIM proved himself to be the only person who could wield that power by pushing it towards its full potential. Someone else would have gotten it wrong.

okay how long would it take before he had the reapers kill everything that wasn`t human or didn`t agree with his shades of gray speeches


No reason to kill every race when they can be lowered to the status of vassals to their human lords.


Human lords? I think you dont want to go there, it  is starting to be pretty extreme Image IPB


If humanity has the ability to take become the lords of the galaxy,  then that chance should be seized without hesitation. Do you doubt that the Asari, Turians(who have an empire of lower, client races), or Salarians(who made the Krogan their slaves)  would do the same? 


Let´s rob that bank, because it could be robbed by someone else anyway.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...
A whole galaxy was shouting at him causing him to believe that his rational actions were evil. A man can only take so much universal criticism before he begins to doubt himself. The only sad part, is that the Illusive Man was so close. Literally, a few feet from ascending humanity from the pits to the command of the universe.

Good thing my Shepard eventually chose the correct choice.


If the whole neighborhood is telling you not to jump off a roof when you're convinced you can fly it's not because you're a visionary who dared to dream, it's because you're likely to break something.

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Greylycantrope wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...
A whole galaxy was shouting at him causing him to believe that his rational actions were evil. A man can only take so much universal criticism before he begins to doubt himself. The only sad part, is that the Illusive Man was so close. Literally, a few feet from ascending humanity from the pits to the command of the universe.

Good thing my Shepard eventually chose the correct choice.


If the whole neighborhood is telling you not to jump off a roof when you're convinced you can fly it's not because you're a visionary who dared to dream, it's because you're likely to break something.


Their protest would not be the first time that a whole neighborhood, or even an entire world has been wrong.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...
A whole galaxy was shouting at him causing him to believe that his rational actions were evil. A man can only take so much universal criticism before he begins to doubt himself. The only sad part, is that the Illusive Man was so close. Literally, a few feet from ascending humanity from the pits to the command of the universe.

Good thing my Shepard eventually chose the correct choice.


If the whole neighborhood is telling you not to jump off a roof when you're convinced you can fly it's not because you're a visionary who dared to dream, it's because you're likely to break something.


Their protest would not be the first time that a whole neighborhood, or even an entire world has been wrong.

...So are you saying you can fly?

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

Asari advocate peace and cooperation in a galaxy that they dominate because of their economy and secret Prothean technology. They would jump at the chance to get more technological advancements to propel the galaxy further.


fixed it


The Turians would not attack their allies, they would just use their advanced, Reaper supplemented military to show everyone how huge their metal d****s are, and use that for political leverage for their own advancement.


which means they are threatening to attack allies (read; dishonorable actions and tactics), never mind that they could have done so any time before humans showed up, and for a while after, without needing the Reapers


The Salarians don't care about fun. They prefer to have others fight their own battles and having a Reaper armada would fit right into Salarian doctrine. They would jump at this chance with the least hesitation of all.


Salarian society is ALL ABOUT politicking, subversion/intelligence, not military domination

Modifié par Mahrac, 15 mai 2012 - 11:48 .


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TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...
A whole galaxy was shouting at him causing him to believe that his rational actions were evil. A man can only take so much universal criticism before he begins to doubt himself. The only sad part, is that the Illusive Man was so close. Literally, a few feet from ascending humanity from the pits to the command of the universe.

Good thing my Shepard eventually chose the correct choice.


If the whole neighborhood is telling you not to jump off a roof when you're convinced you can fly it's not because you're a visionary who dared to dream, it's because you're likely to break something.


Their protest would not be the first time that a whole neighborhood, or even an entire world has been wrong.

...So are you saying you can fly?


Are you that dense?

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...
A whole galaxy was shouting at him causing him to believe that his rational actions were evil. A man can only take so much universal criticism before he begins to doubt himself. The only sad part, is that the Illusive Man was so close. Literally, a few feet from ascending humanity from the pits to the command of the universe.

Good thing my Shepard eventually chose the correct choice.


If the whole neighborhood is telling you not to jump off a roof when you're convinced you can fly it's not because you're a visionary who dared to dream, it's because you're likely to break something.


Their protest would not be the first time that a whole neighborhood, or even an entire world has been wrong.

...So are you saying you can fly?


Are you that dense?

That's how it reads

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...
A whole galaxy was shouting at him causing him to believe that his rational actions were evil. A man can only take so much universal criticism before he begins to doubt himself. The only sad part, is that the Illusive Man was so close. Literally, a few feet from ascending humanity from the pits to the command of the universe.

Good thing my Shepard eventually chose the correct choice.


If the whole neighborhood is telling you not to jump off a roof when you're convinced you can fly it's not because you're a visionary who dared to dream, it's because you're likely to break something.


Their protest would not be the first time that a whole neighborhood, or even an entire world has been wrong.

...So are you saying you can fly?


Are you that dense?

No I have a Feeling you probably meant something else...
But you once said you'd kill a dog if it didn't listen to you, I had to make sure.

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All the trolling BS aside, Cerberus and TIM were out of character in ME3........

Cerberus was poorly handled in ME3, all in the name of giving players more targets to shoot, and adding cheap filler in the story. In other words, the faceless mook army they were in ME1, just with fancier gear..


Cerberus in ME2 was a well-written, morally ambiguous organization with laudable goals. In other words, they sought the preservation and advancement of the Human race. As with the mythical hound, a guardian in the shadows. The guardian of mankind. However, they used questionable means in trying to achieve those goals. "The ends justify the means", to put it bluntly, was their underlying philosophy.

The Illusive Man was no fool, until he got addicted to the stupid pills provided by the writers. But Bioware wanted their 'Mook Military', and Cerberus was convienent. Nothing more. And it was a waste and a diversion from the real enemy, which offered nothing significant to the overall story.

Modifié par MakeMineMako, 15 mai 2012 - 11:54 .


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Catamantaloedis wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...
A whole galaxy was shouting at him causing him to believe that his rational actions were evil. A man can only take so much universal criticism before he begins to doubt himself. The only sad part, is that the Illusive Man was so close. Literally, a few feet from ascending humanity from the pits to the command of the universe.

Good thing my Shepard eventually chose the correct choice.


If the whole neighborhood is telling you not to jump off a roof when you're convinced you can fly it's not because you're a visionary who dared to dream, it's because you're likely to break something.


Their protest would not be the first time that a whole neighborhood, or even an entire world has been wrong.


Missing the point, which is humans can't fly, not on our own anyway. The difference between gods and humans is that humans are mortal and flawed. We are limited and somethings are just beyond our capability despite our force of will or ambitions. To assume that us being in charge of everything would mean wonderous things for the galaxy is foolhardy at best. We make mistakes and somethings are out of our reach or capabilty, you seem to be confusing humans for gods.

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Mahrac wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Asari advocate peace and cooperation in a galaxy that they dominate because of their economy and secret Prothean technology. They would jump at the chance to get more technological advancements to propel the galactic order further.


fixed it

The Turians would not attack their allies, they would just use their advanced, Reaper supplemented military to show everyone how huge their metal d****s are, and use that for political leverage for their own advancement.


which means they are threatening to attack allies (read; dishonorable actions and tactics), never mind that they could have done so any time before humans showed up, and for a while after, without needing the Reapers

The Salarians don't care about fun. They prefer to have others fight their own battles and having a Reaper armada would fit right into Salarian doctrine. They would jump at this chance with the least hesitation of all.


Salarian society is ALL ABOUT politicking, subversion/intelligence, not military domination


If you dont see how asari would benefit from a galactic status quo in which they are the dominant race, then you are blind.

The turians dont have to attack or even threaten to attack to use their military strength. They can simply assert their will more forcefully. Look at China in the South China Sea, because of their improved military , they can assert their claims more vocally, even without overtly threatening their neighbors. And no, the turians as they are now, cannot threaten the other council races altogether, at least without significant threat to themselves.

The reason that the salarians use those means is because they of their weaknesses in conventional warfare. If they could gain the ability to rectify their one weakness they would jump at it without second thought.

Modifié par Catamantaloedis, 15 mai 2012 - 11:55 .


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MakeMineMako wrote...


All the trolling BS aside, Cerberus and TIM were out of character in ME3........

Cerberus was poorly handled in ME3, all in the name of giving players more targets to shoot, and adding cheap filler in the story. In other words, the faceless mook army they were in ME1, just with fancier gear..


Cerberus in ME2 was a well-written, morally ambiguous organization with laudable goals. In other words, they sought the preservation and advancement of the Human race. As with the mythical hound, a guardian in the shadows. The guardian of mankind. However, they used questionable means in trying to achieve those goals. "The ends justify the means", to put it bluntly, was their underlying philosophy.

The Illusive Man was no fool, until he got addicted to the stupid pills provided by the writers. But Bioware wanted their 'Mook Military', and Cerberus was convienent. Nothing more. And it was a waste and a diversion from the real enemy.




I agree TIM and Cerberus were OOC in ME3.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

**drivel**


So, let me see if I've got this:

You think synthetics are an abomination, but you believe in the ideals of an organization run by a man who:

1. Machinated a synthetic made from Reaper technology to infiltrate a scientific base and steal Prothean data, killing countless innocent humans along the way.  Even if you say the end justified the means, you're still a hypocrite for supporting an organization willing to employ such tactics.

2. Used that same Reaper tech to indoctrinate his followers.  He corrupted the minds of people who believe the same things you do, contaminating them with an alien influence which, if you paid attention to the games even poorly, was ready to exterminate every single one of them anyway.  After all, it's not like the Reapers were going to wipe out all sentient life *except* for Cerberus agents.

Oh, and let's not forget how he brought a dead man back to life by implanting him with wildly expensive tech, essentially making him at least partially synthetic...you know, like those abominations you mentioned in your other obnoxious thread.

You see why no one is taking you even the slightest bit seriously?  You use nonsensical, grade-school level absolutes ("anyone who doesn't agree is a fool"...what are you, 12 years old?) to support arguments more fundamentally misinformed and flimsy than any I've heard in this community for years.

I actually feel a little sad for you.  This has to come from some powerful need for attention on your part.  I mean, you had to know people would take offense, right?  I can almost see you now taking near-obscene pleasure at rattling people's cages the way you think you're doing, spouting all that venomous hate knowing that people who like the Krogan or synthetics are going to take issue.

When all is said and done, you're about as worrisome as a cloudy day.  To paraphrase a great comedian: "You're going to miss everything cool and die angry."

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Shatterhand1701 wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

**drivel**


So, let me see if I've got this:

You think synthetics are an abomination, but you believe in the ideals of an organization run by a man who:

1. Machinated a synthetic made from Reaper technology to infiltrate a scientific base and steal Prothean data, killing countless innocent humans along the way.  Even if you say the end justified the means, you're still a hypocrite for supporting an organization willing to employ such tactics.

2. Used that same Reaper tech to indoctrinate his followers.  He corrupted the minds of people who believe the same things you do, contaminating them with an alien influence which, if you paid attention to the games even poorly, was ready to exterminate every single one of them anyway.  After all, it's not like the Reapers were going to wipe out all sentient life *except* for Cerberus agents.

Oh, and let's not forget how he brought a dead man back to life by implanting him with wildly expensive tech, essentially making him at least partially synthetic...you know, like those abominations you mentioned in your other obnoxious thread.

You see why no one is taking you even the slightest bit seriously?  You use nonsensical, grade-school level absolutes ("anyone who doesn't agree is a fool"...what are you, 12 years old?) to support arguments more fundamentally misinformed and flimsy than any I've heard in this community for years.

I actually feel a little sad for you.  This has to come from some powerful need for attention on your part.  I mean, you had to know people would take offense, right?  I can almost see you now taking near-obscene pleasure at rattling people's cages the way you think you're doing, spouting all that venomous hate knowing that people who like the Krogan or synthetics are going to take issue.

When all is said and done, you're about as worrisome as a cloudy day.  To paraphrase a great comedian: "You're going to miss everything cool and die angry."


Were you saying something? I decided not to read anything you posted. I tend to do that randomly to users for no reason.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Asari advocate peace and cooperation in a galaxy that they dominate because of their economy and secret Prothean technology. They would jump at the chance to get more technological advancements to propel the galactic order further.


fixed it


The Turians would not attack their allies, they would just use their advanced, Reaper supplemented military to show everyone how huge their metal d****s are, and use that for political leverage for their own advancement.


which means they are threatening to attack allies (read; dishonorable actions and tactics), never mind that they could have done so any time before humans showed up, and for a while after, without needing the Reapers


The Salarians don't care about fun. They prefer to have others fight their own battles and having a Reaper armada would fit right into Salarian doctrine. They would jump at this chance with the least hesitation of all.


Salarian society is ALL ABOUT politicking, subversion/intelligence, not military domination


If you dont see how asari would benefit from a galactic status quo in which they are the dominant race, then you are blind.

The turians dont have to attack or even threaten to attack to use their military strength. They can simply assert their will more forcefully. Look at China in the South China Sea, because of their improved military , they can assert their claims more vocally, even without overtly threatening their neighbors. And no, the turians as they are now, cannot threaten the other council races altogether, at least without significant threat to themselves.

The reason that the salarians use those means is because they do not pride themselves in the weakness in conventional warfare. If they could gain the ability to rectify their one weakness they would jump at it without second thought.

I think they would see how everyone could benefit

China isn't the Turians, very different socially. And they so could have. Largest fleet, largest army, best trained and equiped flees, best trained and equiped army, Volus economic base, could hold everyone on the Citadel hostage between the C-Sec and the Citadel Defense Fleet.

not necessarily talking about warfare there. their INTIRE CULTURE, including warfare, is about politicking and thinking, from breeding to an individual's secrets

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Mahrac wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...
A whole galaxy was shouting at him causing him to believe that his rational actions were evil. A man can only take so much universal criticism before he begins to doubt himself. The only sad part, is that the Illusive Man was so close. Literally, a few feet from ascending humanity from the pits to the command of the universe.

Good thing my Shepard eventually chose the correct choice.


If the whole neighborhood is telling you not to jump off a roof when you're convinced you can fly it's not because you're a visionary who dared to dream, it's because you're likely to break something.


whoa your supporting cerberus you might want to walk away from the reaper tech or you love martin sheen (since he did the voice) too much lol

Their protest would not be the first time that a whole neighborhood, or even an entire world has been wrong.

...So are you saying you can fly?


Are you that dense?

That's how it reads



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Mahrac wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

TheClonesLegacy wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Greylycantrope wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...
A whole galaxy was shouting at him causing him to believe that his rational actions were evil. A man can only take so much universal criticism before he begins to doubt himself. The only sad part, is that the Illusive Man was so close. Literally, a few feet from ascending humanity from the pits to the command of the universe.

Good thing my Shepard eventually chose the correct choice.


If the whole neighborhood is telling you not to jump off a roof when you're convinced you can fly it's not because you're a visionary who dared to dream, it's because you're likely to break something.


whoa your supporting cerberus you might want to walk away from the reaper tech or you love martin sheen (since he did the voice) too much lol

Their protest would not be the first time that a whole neighborhood, or even an entire world has been wrong.

...So are you saying you can fly?


Are you that dense?

That's how it reads



whoa your supporting cerberus you might wanna step away from the reaper tech or you like martin sheen (since he did the voice for anyone who doesn`t know) WAY TOO MUCH

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Mahrac wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Mahrac wrote...

Catamantaloedis wrote...

Asari advocate peace and cooperation in a galaxy that they dominate because of their economy and secret Prothean technology. They would jump at the chance to get more technological advancements to propel the galactic order further.


fixed it


The Turians would not attack their allies, they would just use their advanced, Reaper supplemented military to show everyone how huge their metal d****s are, and use that for political leverage for their own advancement.


which means they are threatening to attack allies (read; dishonorable actions and tactics), never mind that they could have done so any time before humans showed up, and for a while after, without needing the Reapers


The Salarians don't care about fun. They prefer to have others fight their own battles and having a Reaper armada would fit right into Salarian doctrine. They would jump at this chance with the least hesitation of all.


Salarian society is ALL ABOUT politicking, subversion/intelligence, not military domination


If you dont see how asari would benefit from a galactic status quo in which they are the dominant race, then you are blind.

The turians dont have to attack or even threaten to attack to use their military strength. They can simply assert their will more forcefully. Look at China in the South China Sea, because of their improved military , they can assert their claims more vocally, even without overtly threatening their neighbors. And no, the turians as they are now, cannot threaten the other council races altogether, at least without significant threat to themselves.

The reason that the salarians use those means is because they do not pride themselves in the weakness in conventional warfare. If they could gain the ability to rectify their one weakness they would jump at it without second thought.

I think they would see how everyone could benefit

China isn't the Turians, very different socially. And they so could have. Largest fleet, largest army, best trained and equiped flees, best trained and equiped army, Volus economic base, could hold everyone on the Citadel hostage between the C-Sec and the Citadel Defense Fleet.

not necessarily talking about warfare there. their INTIRE CULTURE, including warfare, is about politicking and thinking, from breeding to an individual's secrets


The turians are the most militaristic race in the Council. They immediately began warfare with the Krogan simply because the Krogan sent a diplomatic threat. They attacked another unknown race, humans, and prepared for a major war simply because they attempted to activate a Mass Relay.

It is evident that they will use their military even for simple diplomatic incidents if they are able. However, in their current state they are not able to dominate all of the races of the Council together, so they will not attempt it. However, had they been given the chance I have no doubt that they would use it to their advantage, eventually making all other races their clients, like the volus.

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Catamantaloedis wrote...
The turians are the most militaristic race in the Council. They immediately began warfare with the Krogan simply because the Krogan sent a diplomatic threat. They attacked another unknown race, humans, and prepared for a major war simply because they attempted to activate a Mass Relay.

It is evident that they will use their military even for simple diplomatic incidents if they are able. However, in their current state they are not able to dominate all of the races of the Council together, so they will not attempt it. However, had they been given the chance I have no doubt that they would use it to their advantage, eventually making all other races their clients, like the volus.


They started a war with the Krogan after the Krogan invaded numerous colonies. they had a single battle with a race that violated a law, giving them reason to attack, and that was not one of their allies, meaning they were 'fair game' for client race status. Once the war was over, the race was an ally, and they were no longer attackable.

They use their military to maintain peace and uphold the laws, and they were in a position to conquor all of Citadel Space as soon as the Krogan Rebellions ended.

Modifié par Mahrac, 16 mai 2012 - 12:15 .