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[Leozilla]

funny how this was about The Witcher and it turned into an argument about the ending again

[Tirranek]

Iwillbeback wrote...

Tirranek wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Tirranek wrote...



So someone gives you a cake that you enjoy, then sprinkles some cinamon on it, you were therefore being dishonest about liking the cake before?

That's a terrible analogy, it completely ignores all the whining they done about not wanting more cinamon

A better one would be 

- Share cake with Family
- 90% of the family think the cake was crap and wants cinamon, 10% thought it was good and is protesting against it saying that they should not even get any cinamon, the parent should not go to the shop to get some.

-Parent gets cinamon anyway
-The 10% quiets down but still shows annoyance at it.
-When the cinamon arrives the 10% will use it even though it will alter the cake they enjoyed so much already.

That's a really long-winded way of not disputing my point. It's an addition. From what I've seen 'pro-enders' aren't saying they shouldn't have it, they're saying that it isn't NEEDED. Big difference.

Your point was too simple and ignored the facts.
I could not even try to compare it to this, I am actually amazed you tried.
I could not find any logic in your point and I doubt you thought it through either.

- Then please link me said facts, I'm interested and have obviously missed something. Especially considering that enjoyment of this game comes down to personal opinion.
- I'm glad I amaze you.
- Sure it might not have been the most accurately thought out analogy, but I certainly thought it through more than the response you gave.

[Arcadian Legend]

Leozilla wrote...

funny how this was about The Witcher and it turned into an argument about the ending again

Yep. Never played the Witcher series though s definitely caught my eye more than it did before. Whether that has to do anything with ME3, I dunno.

[Iwillbeback]

Leozilla wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Garethj17 wrote...

Of course i would like to know what happend after, but you dont see me demanding a reetake, yea it first i was disapointed about the ending but then i got to like it, th overall game is awesome, you dont judge the game about the ending.. you got to judge the journy that got you there.

The Journey in the game was pretty bad.
By wanting more you want to alter the ending, how do you feel about that?

I disagree with that wanting more and wanting to change the ending of the story are to very different things. By wanting more you are wanting other stories before, after or during the main story, not changing what has already been set in stone.

However changing the ending, is rewriting what already happened, I am of the cap that believes just because you have invested 100+ hours into this franchise you have no right to demand it to be changed because you don't like where the story tellers took it, although I have no problem with BW changing the endings anymore because, from the begining they promised multiple endings not just A,B, and CI don't think we got that what we got was A, B, and C each in different shade of RGB .

Further more I also feel that BW will not lose any "artistic integrity" by adding additional endings which they promised from the start.

I didn't use the word "change".

[GarethJShep]

Oh just the typical troll (**** ) who doesn't accept others opinions.

Modifié par Garethj17, 16 mai 2012 - 10:43 .

[Iwillbeback]

Tirranek wrote...


- Then please link me said facts, I'm interested and have obviously missed something. Especially considering that enjoyment of this game comes down to personal opinion.
- I'm glad I amaze you.
- Sure it might not have been the most accurately thought out analogy, but I certainly thought it through more than the response you gave.

I doubt that, in all honesty you're just an incompetent fool.

[Arcadian Legend]

I see my effort to get things back on topic was in vain...

[Leozilla]

Iwillbeback wrote...

Leozilla wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Garethj17 wrote...

Of course i would like to know what happend after, but you dont see me demanding a reetake, yea it first i was disapointed about the ending but then i got to like it, th overall game is awesome, you dont judge the game about the ending.. you got to judge the journy that got you there.

The Journey in the game was pretty bad.
By wanting more you want to alter the ending, how do you feel about that?

I disagree with that wanting more and wanting to change the ending of the story are to very different things. By wanting more you are wanting other stories before, after or during the main story, not changing what has already been set in stone.

However changing the ending, is rewriting what already happened, I am of the cap that believes just because you have invested 100+ hours into this franchise you have no right to demand it to be changed because you don't like where the story tellers took it, although I have no problem with BW changing the endings anymore because, from the begining they promised multiple endings not just A,B, and CI don't think we got that what we got was A, B, and C each in different shade of RGB .

Further more I also feel that BW will not lose any "artistic integrity" by adding additional endings which they promised from the start.

I didn't use the word "change".

I'm so sorry just replace every time I use change with alter and I think we'll be good

[Leozilla]

Arcadian Legend wrote...

I see my effort to get things back on topic was in vain...

yes because the endings are what all conversations boil down to here now, have you play The Witcher 2 yet?

[NRieh]

I like original books (most of them) and movie too much to try one out, though it'd be interesting how could they depict Sapkovsky's world. Some of my friends said I'd better not even try, as they olny left names, titles and multiple sex scenes from books, leaving rest of content out of game.

[GarethJShep]

Just replace the word change with the word **** xD

[Iwillbeback]

Leozilla wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Leozilla wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Garethj17 wrote...

Of course i would like to know what happend after, but you dont see me demanding a reetake, yea it first i was disapointed about the ending but then i got to like it, th overall game is awesome, you dont judge the game about the ending.. you got to judge the journy that got you there.

The Journey in the game was pretty bad.
By wanting more you want to alter the ending, how do you feel about that?

I disagree with that wanting more and wanting to change the ending of the story are to very different things. By wanting more you are wanting other stories before, after or during the main story, not changing what has already been set in stone.

However changing the ending, is rewriting what already happened, I am of the cap that believes just because you have invested 100+ hours into this franchise you have no right to demand it to be changed because you don't like where the story tellers took it, although I have no problem with BW changing the endings anymore because, from the begining they promised multiple endings not just A,B, and CI don't think we got that what we got was A, B, and C each in different shade of RGB .

Further more I also feel that BW will not lose any "artistic integrity" by adding additional endings which they promised from the start.

I didn't use the word "change".

I'm so sorry just replace every time I use change with alter and I think we'll be good

Doesn't work, Alter =/= Change
You would need to rewrite it out so that you agree with me.

[CroGamer002]

No because I played it before ME3 was out.

And didn't like it.

[Leozilla]

Garethj17 wrote...

Just replace the word change with the word **** xD

your right that works too 

[Costin_Razvan]

Nrieh wrote...

I like original books (most of them) and movie too much to try one out, though it'd be interesting how could they depict Sapkovsky's world. Some of my friends said I'd better not even try, as they olny left names, titles and multiple sex scenes from books, leaving rest of content out of game.

The games are set after the books.

[Leozilla]

Nrieh wrote...

I like original books (most of them) and movie too much to try one out, though it'd be interesting how could they depict Sapkovsky's world. Some of my friends said I'd better not even try, as they olny left names, titles and multiple sex scenes from books, leaving rest of content out of game.

I've tried to find the books before I got the game, but alas they are not on the kindle

[Arcadian Legend]

Leozilla wrote...

Arcadian Legend wrote...

I see my effort to get things back on topic was in vain...

yes because the endings are what all conversations boil down to here now, have you play The Witcher 2 yet?

Read the above post.

[revo76]

Did Mass Effect 3 lead you to the Witcher?

-It lead to many things, More Mass Effect 1, More Mass Effect 2, then jumped to Witcher 1, then finished Witcher 2 again, then passed to Binary Domain.

But never second ME3 play again.

[GarethJShep]

haha xD

[Tirranek]

Leozilla wrote...

funny how this was about The Witcher and it turned into an argument about the ending again

To keep it on topic then: I tried the Witcher for the first time ages ago, it didn't click at first. I was interested in finishing it so I could import a save over to 2 and I'm currently playing through it now.

My impression are that it has some interesting ideas. The setting is interesting and the set up between humans and scoi'whatsits is a lot better imo than the Equivilent mage vs templar thing in dragon age.

However, almost a third of first game is basically filler. Chapters 2 and 4 have almost no reason to exist as far as the main plot goes, something that would be cited against it if it were a Bioware game. The character is chosen for you, with some key variations with decision making, which kind of evens it out. With Shepard, you are deciding the 'flavour' of the protagonist, in the Witcher, you've got very little input into the subtleties.  The combat is really repetative and the harder enemy encounters often feel cheap instead of challenging. There is an abundance of jank. The main plot to dismantle a group of thieves is one of the least interesting parts of the game. Chapter 5 is essentially re-treading what was in the books. The epilogue is very good.

TW2 so far has been a huge improvement but importing a character across has so far made very little difference. You start out with a few items that become redundant within a few hours. The character differences so far are minimal (might change later). The game completely ignores one path you might have taken in the first game with reagrds to Triss or Shani. Even your political choices in the first game seem to be largely ignored, since the set up is such that it's its independant from the last conflict. The ability to have two wildly branching paths is fantastic, but holding that as the standard against ME3 is unrealistic. For one, both games clearly have a different focus, and what Witcher 2 manages to achieve in terms of branching plot comes at the cost of so far not really acknowledging your past actions, especially on an inidividual character level, to nearly the same extent as ME tried to do.

EDIT: Also, as far as combat goes: setting up for fights with potions and traps is great, but Geralt often handles like Batman trying to ice skate with two broken knees.

Modifié par Tirranek, 16 mai 2012 - 10:59 .

[Tirranek]

Iwillbeback wrote...

Tirranek wrote...


- Then please link me said facts, I'm interested and have obviously missed something. Especially considering that enjoyment of this game comes down to personal opinion.
- I'm glad I amaze you.
- Sure it might not have been the most accurately thought out analogy, but I certainly thought it through more than the response you gave.

I doubt that, in all honesty you're just an incompetent fool.

ooo, bringing out the personal insults ey?

Game on!

Personal strike demonstrating sign of weakness in argument. That's 1 point to me

Score 1 - 0

[GarethJShep]

I agree, 1- 0 to you! XD

[Iwillbeback]

Tirranek wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Tirranek wrote...


- Then please link me said facts, I'm interested and have obviously missed something. Especially considering that enjoyment of this game comes down to personal opinion.
- I'm glad I amaze you.
- Sure it might not have been the most accurately thought out analogy, but I certainly thought it through more than the response you gave.

I doubt that, in all honesty you're just an incompetent fool.

ooo, bringing out the personal insults ey?

Game on!

Personal strike demonstrating sign of weakness in argument. That's 1 point to me

Score 1 - 0

That's unfair you already insulted me with badly thought out posts.

1 - 3 to me, you will get no more points from me.

Modifié par Iwillbeback, 16 mai 2012 - 10:58 .

[Tirranek]

Iwillbeback wrote...

Tirranek wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Tirranek wrote...


- Then please link me said facts, I'm interested and have obviously missed something. Especially considering that enjoyment of this game comes down to personal opinion.
- I'm glad I amaze you.
- Sure it might not have been the most accurately thought out analogy, but I certainly thought it through more than the response you gave.

I doubt that, in all honesty you're just an incompetent fool.

ooo, bringing out the personal insults ey?

Game on!

Personal strike demonstrating sign of weakness in argument. That's 1 point to me

Score 1 - 0

That's unfair you already insulted me with badly thought out posts.

1 - 3 to me, you will get no more points from me.

Retrospect ey? Then, sir I count your previous two insults towards me, bringing it to an even  3 - 3

[GarethJShep]

nope, 1-0 xD