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[What a Succulent Ass]

All I'm saying is that it's quite telling when people are impressed that a mature, story-based game has a coherent narrative. That shouldn't be a surprise. That should be a minimum requirement.

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Now you made me curious: I'm goning to check this Planescape out.

Do it. It has its problems, but it's definitely my favourite RPG ever.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 16 mai 2012 - 02:41 .

[nitefyre410]

Random Jerkface wrote...

nitefyre410 wrote...

Fixed that for you... because I swear to god if Garrus does not stop trying to be a tank... 

Garrus' AI has always been stupid.

Edit: Honestly, I think Future Soldier's gameplay would best suit the series, not Gears'. It would add a sorely lacking tactical element.

And versatility.

  

Bioware unfortunately ... is not that versitale when it comes to combat and gameplay.   Future Soilders combat would be great fit for a battle system for Mass Effect... I can't wait to get my hands on it. 


Combat is equally as important as story... if the combat and gameplay is bad in a RPG you could care less about seening the rest of the story because the ****** poor combat system. 

[What a Succulent Ass]

nitefyre410 wrote...

Bioware unfortunately ... is not that versitale when it comes to combat and gameplay.   Future Soilders combat would be great fit for a battle system for Mass Effect...

It really would. It would also work double time by reinforcing the narrative, because Shepard would actually appear to be a competent squad leader. As it is, I'm pretty sure most people just use their squad mates as meat shields.

[Seival]

wiggles89 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Yes, ME1 combat system was terrible... ME2 combat system was not bad... But ME3 combat system is almost perfect.

TPS with horrible controls, boring AI and incredibly low fov.

Almost perfect.

lol

ME3 has the best controls I've ever seen. And believe me, I've played a lot of different games. In my opinion, all new RPGs should use standard Third Person Cover Shooter combat system. No other type of combat will be dynamic and interesing enough.

ME3 AI is the best among RPG games... Well, even among Shooters.

...And I don't understand what do you have against ME3 field of view. It is at it should be in any game with third person cover shooter combat system.

Modifié par Seival, 16 mai 2012 - 02:51 .

[squee365]

It led me to Dark Souls.

[FodoSatoru]

Seival wrote...

wiggles89 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Yes, ME1 combat system was terrible... ME2 combat system was not bad... But ME3 combat system is almost perfect.

TPS with horrible controls, boring AI and incredibly low fov.

Almost perfect.

lol

ME3 has the best controls I've ever seen. And believe me, I've played a lot of different games. In my opinion, all new RPGs should use standard Third Person Cover Shooter combat system. No other type of combat will be dynamic and interesing enough.

ME3 AI is the best among RPG games... Well, even among Shooters.

...And I don't understand what do you have against ME3 field of view. It is at it should be in any game with third person cover shooter combat system.

So... apart from that I think this Cover Shooter mechanics is boring as hell, I suppose according to you fantasy cRPGs also need that kind of gameplay? Fogive me, when I suppress laughter after imagining a Middle-Age commando shooting a crossbow from behind a cover.

[Chromie]

Nrieh wrote...

I meant the events covered in the games take place after the events that occur in the final book.Geralt has amnesia so that's how you get freedom of choice.

OUCH. Thanx for warning. It sounds even worse then worst of what I thought.

You know who else had amnesia?

 

[Seival]

FodoSatoru wrote...

Seival wrote...

wiggles89 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Yes, ME1 combat system was terrible... ME2 combat system was not bad... But ME3 combat system is almost perfect.

TPS with horrible controls, boring AI and incredibly low fov.

Almost perfect.

lol

ME3 has the best controls I've ever seen. And believe me, I've played a lot of different games. In my opinion, all new RPGs should use standard Third Person Cover Shooter combat system. No other type of combat will be dynamic and interesing enough.

ME3 AI is the best among RPG games... Well, even among Shooters.

...And I don't understand what do you have against ME3 field of view. It is at it should be in any game with third person cover shooter combat system.

So... apart from that I think this Cover Shooter mechanics is boring as hell, I suppose according to you fantasy cRPGs also need that kind of gameplay? Fogive me, when I suppress laughter after imagining a Middle-Age commando shooting a crossbow from behind a cover.

I don't understand why don't you like cover shooter mechanics, but it's your opinion anyway. Don't wanna argue about that anymore...

...But do you really think people learned how to use covers only in 20th century?... Cover shooter mechanic is the most realistic, and can be applied even to fantasy games.

...Oh, I understand! You might think that if game has cover shooter mechanic, then player has to spent 99% of time in covers... Believe me, it's not true. Only unskilled players stuck to covers like that.

Modifié par Seival, 16 mai 2012 - 03:33 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Aeowyn wrote...

Seival wrote...

How can sci-fi game lead you to a fantasy game?

...Besides, both Witchers are crappy games. First one is complete trash. And the second one is just a DA2 clone made in boring universe... Witcher 2 is better then DA2 only in terms of map design. And I don't really care it has 1000000 different endings. Game quality measures not by endings' quantity.

Bahahaha funny guy here. You're not honestly claiming that the TW2 story is pretty much the same as the DA2 story. I think you should play the game (and no you're probably lying if you're going to respond to this post with "I did play the game" since there's no way in hell DA2 and TW2 are the same in terms of story).

If there is a game that is similar to DA2 it's TW1 which was released in 2007 and it's main plot.

Two factions fighting eachother, one of which was freedom fighter type group and the other a Knightly Order led by a madman but with a reasonable and rather nice second in command, with you stuck in the middle.

Ring any freaking bells to people? Because that's the Witcher 1.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 16 mai 2012 - 03:29 .

[FierceReaper]

Sortof. It was more a 'Well, can I still play anything?' Bought the Witcher, Alan Wake, Arkham City, Jade Empire. Really trying to scrub the sour ME3 ending out of my brain. Finally worked when I went back and started replaying Fallout 3.

[FodoSatoru]

Seival wrote...

FodoSatoru wrote...

Seival wrote...

wiggles89 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Yes, ME1 combat system was terrible... ME2 combat system was not bad... But ME3 combat system is almost perfect.

TPS with horrible controls, boring AI and incredibly low fov.

Almost perfect.

lol

ME3 has the best controls I've ever seen. And believe me, I've played a lot of different games. In my opinion, all new RPGs should use standard Third Person Cover Shooter combat system. No other type of combat will be dynamic and interesing enough.

ME3 AI is the best among RPG games... Well, even among Shooters.

...And I don't understand what do you have against ME3 field of view. It is at it should be in any game with third person cover shooter combat system.

So... apart from that I think this Cover Shooter mechanics is boring as hell, I suppose according to you fantasy cRPGs also need that kind of gameplay? Fogive me, when I suppress laughter after imagining a Middle-Age commando shooting a crossbow from behind a cover.

I don't understand why don't you like cover shooter mechanics, but it's your opinion anyway. Don't wanna argue about that anymore...

...But do you really think people learned fow to use covers only in 20th century?... Cover shooter mechanic is the most realistic, and can be applied even to fantasy games.

...Oh, I understand! You might think that if game has cover shooter mechanic, then player has to spent 99% of time in covers... Believe me, it's not true. Only unskilled players stuck to covers like that.

It's boring because you sit behind cover, then shoot something to death, return to cover, shoot, repeat, repeat, etc. Only variety is provided by grenades and inconveniently placed turrets. Then you need to change your cover!

[Coder4Hire]

Yes.

I went straight to The Witcher 2; I had back story from friends and The Witcher 2 comes with an epilogue (few hours long).

I freaking love the game. Not every choice is reflected right away, and not not all matter. But, the ones that matter really show up! My chapter two has been complely differnt from a friends, we don't even have the same npcs ... or location. It's kind of crazy.

No, you can't change the main character appearance, but the way you build/set his skills is so deep that it doesn't matter, you forgive them in a hurry.

Combat is actually hard! In many cases it's a good idea to talk to people to find out what exactly is lurking in "that cave" at night so you prepare correctly.

Great game, period. Again the combat ... wow. So happy to finally have a challenge.

[FodoSatoru]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Seival wrote...

How can sci-fi game lead you to a fantasy game?

...Besides, both Witchers are crappy games. First one is complete trash. And the second one is just a DA2 clone made in boring universe... Witcher 2 is better then DA2 only in terms of map design. And I don't really care it has 1000000 different endings. Game quality measures not by endings' quantity.

Bahahaha funny guy here. You're not honestly claiming that the TW2 story is pretty much the same as the DA2 story. I think you should play the game (and no you're probably lying if you're going to respond to this post with "I did play the game" since there's no way in hell DA2 and TW2 are the same in terms of story).

If there is a game that is similar to DA2 it's TW1 which was released in 2007 and it's main plot.

Two factions fighting eachother, one of which was freedom fighter type group and the other a Knightly Order led by a madman but with a reasonable and rather nice second in command, with you stuck in the middle.

Ring any freaking bells to people? Because that's the Witcher 1.

Although in The Witcher there are some nice twists. And you can choose to side with no one.

[Greggorio]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Aeowyn wrote...

Seival wrote...

How can sci-fi game lead you to a fantasy game?

...Besides, both Witchers are crappy games. First one is complete trash. And the second one is just a DA2 clone made in boring universe... Witcher 2 is better then DA2 only in terms of map design. And I don't really care it has 1000000 different endings. Game quality measures not by endings' quantity.

Bahahaha funny guy here. You're not honestly claiming that the TW2 story is pretty much the same as the DA2 story. I think you should play the game (and no you're probably lying if you're going to respond to this post with "I did play the game" since there's no way in hell DA2 and TW2 are the same in terms of story).

If there is a game that is similar to DA2 it's TW1 which was released in 2007 and it's main plot.

Two factions fighting eachother, one of which was freedom fighter type group and the other a Knightly Order led by a madman but with a reasonable and rather nice second in command, with you stuck in the middle.

Ring any freaking bells to people? Because that's the Witcher 1.

The only thing I remember about DA2 is going into the same friggin cave over and over again.  Witcher 1 was awesome, but it took me a while to get into it due to the crappy game mechanics.  I absolutely loved Witcher 2. 

[Seival]

FodoSatoru wrote...

Seival wrote...

FodoSatoru wrote...

Seival wrote...

wiggles89 wrote...

Seival wrote...

Yes, ME1 combat system was terrible... ME2 combat system was not bad... But ME3 combat system is almost perfect.

TPS with horrible controls, boring AI and incredibly low fov.

Almost perfect.

lol

ME3 has the best controls I've ever seen. And believe me, I've played a lot of different games. In my opinion, all new RPGs should use standard Third Person Cover Shooter combat system. No other type of combat will be dynamic and interesing enough.

ME3 AI is the best among RPG games... Well, even among Shooters.

...And I don't understand what do you have against ME3 field of view. It is at it should be in any game with third person cover shooter combat system.

So... apart from that I think this Cover Shooter mechanics is boring as hell, I suppose according to you fantasy cRPGs also need that kind of gameplay? Fogive me, when I suppress laughter after imagining a Middle-Age commando shooting a crossbow from behind a cover.

I don't understand why don't you like cover shooter mechanics, but it's your opinion anyway. Don't wanna argue about that anymore...

...But do you really think people learned fow to use covers only in 20th century?... Cover shooter mechanic is the most realistic, and can be applied even to fantasy games.

...Oh, I understand! You might think that if game has cover shooter mechanic, then player has to spent 99% of time in covers... Believe me, it's not true. Only unskilled players stuck to covers like that.

It's boring because you sit behind cover, then shoot something to death, return to cover, shoot, repeat, repeat, etc. Only variety is provided by grenades and inconveniently placed turrets. Then you need to change your cover!

So I was right - you just play cover shooters incorrectly. And on low difficulty levels most likely. I suggest you to try ME3 multiplayer on Gold Level and ME3 single player on Insanity. It's not that hard, but it's much more interesting then you've just described.

...Oh, and shooting from the cover (and changing covers when needed) is real life mechanic that works, and saves soldier's life actually. Maybe you just don't like some portion of realism in fantasy and sci-fi games?

[Orkfaeller]

A combination of ME3 and DA2 I guess,
Bought It a couple of days ago.

[Zaalbar]

I'd never heard of the Witcher until it came up on these forums, I've purchased the xbox version of Witcher 2 and so far I'm loving it.

[Unit-Alpha]

No, I've been playing it for years now. I've recommended it a number of time here though.

[Chromie]

No, I've been playing Witcher 1 since launch and watched Witcher 2's development since the alpha was leaked.

[matt-bassist]

i started playing The Witcher 2, and loved it so much I went and bought the first game so i could finish it first before continuing with 2 (only played up until Flotsam). Great game, graphics, characters, dialogue etc, and apparently the 2nd game has 16 or so different endings...

[Nefla]

nitefyre410 wrote...
Combat is equally as important as story... if the combat and gameplay is bad in a RPG you could care less about seening the rest of the story because the ****** poor combat system. 

This isn't true for me. I have suffered through crappy combat that I hated in many games just to get to the story and RP bits.

Also I really want to play the Witcher but I don't have a PC that can play modern games T_T (and I don't want to play TW2 on the xbox without playing the first one)

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

These forums got me to buy TW2, it was good but it doesn't have new game plus and save editing on 360 only goes so far.

[Superstarsage]

I got the witcher long before I ever played ME. It was enjoyable. Making choices that mattered was awesome, and you saw it dramatically and quickly. But you also saw it in the long term, like a snake rearing it's head twice. Combat was stiff somewhat but I guess I never complained about combat systems.

The joy of a new combat system, to me, was learning what you can and cannot do. Then learning to bend those rules. Can't combo due to game mechanics having across the board cooldown on single skill use? Find move that outlasts cooldown, start comboing. So on and so forth. So clunky games never really... bothered me.

As for the cover mechanics the joy of the cover was saying "okay, I can get close to the enemy to do this this and this (infiltrator) and escape to this cover" and watching the plan either work or fail. and improvising.

[Mcfly616]

I wasn't planning on buying any games after ME3, until Halo 4 comes out in November.....but then the last 10 minutes of ME3 happened.....and yes, it drove me to buy The Witcher 2(CDPR could definitely remind Bioware of what they forgot about themselves)....and it drove me back to Skyrim(instant classic)....and now next week I'm getting Ghost Recon, so I can get my Shooting on until the EC comes out for ME3.....


However, I must say that the ending of ME3 first drove me to play through ME1 and ME2 again, so I can actually feel like a hero, and not a dumb-founded chump that becomes a war criminal and destroys the entire galaxy I had come to love

Modifié par Mcfly616, 16 mai 2012 - 05:17 .