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[ZackG312]

Iwillbeback wrote...

Tirranek wrote...



So someone gives you a cake that you enjoy, then sprinkles some cinamon on it, you were therefore being dishonest about liking the cake before?

That's a terrible analogy, it completely ignores all the whining they done about not wanting more cinamon

A better one would be 

- Share cake with Family
- 90% of the family think the cake was crap and wants cinamon, 10% thought it was good and is protesting against it saying that they should not even get any cinamon, the parent should not go to the shop to get some.

-Parent gets cinamon anyway
-The 10% quiets down but still shows annoyance at it.
-When the cinamon arrives the 10% will use it even though it will alter the cake they enjoyed so much already.

pro enders just got owned by LOGIC

[FodoSatoru]

Seival wrote...

So I was right - you just play cover shooters incorrectly. And on low difficulty levels most likely. I suggest you to try ME3 multiplayer on Gold Level and ME3 single player on Insanity. It's not that hard, but it's much more interesting then you've just described.

...Oh, and shooting from the cover (and changing covers when needed) is real life mechanic that works, and saves soldier's life actually. Maybe you just don't like some portion of realism in fantasy and sci-fi games?

1. I played on Hardcore (or how is called that difficulty level just below Insanity?) and it was challenging enough to keep me interested. I don't need enemies with even more hit points, shields and what not.

2. Maybe so, although it is science FICTION game, with kinetic barriers and such. It takes only some creativity to develop something different than cover-shoot mechanics, keep it true to in-universe established lore and grant your players something intriguing and original. I know taking cover is important in real life combat, but from game to game in ME franchise developers made this sticking to cover mechanics more and more grotesque. Especially in ME3: I want to run but no, Shepard wants to jump or scratch his back against some wall so rational coure of action must wait.

[soulprovider]

 I had heard of it before but only on these forums did I find out more about it. I plan on purchasing it. But this is what word of mouth does, its the best advertising you can get while also the biggest destruction possible if not handled properly.

[DieHigh2012]

Yes, I love TW2 story. On my third runthough so far. It is good to be able to replay a game after the ending.

Don't get me wrong I love most of ME3, but after the last five minuets I can't even look at ME1 or ME2 with feeling profoundly sad. I'm so dang angry that my favorite trilogy had to be sacrificed on the alter of "artistic integrity". TW2 is not really a "happy" ending, but it is an ending that leaves you content.

[Tirranek]

ZackG312 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Tirranek wrote...



So someone gives you a cake that you enjoy, then sprinkles some cinamon on it, you were therefore being dishonest about liking the cake before?

That's a terrible analogy, it completely ignores all the whining they done about not wanting more cinamon

A better one would be 

- Share cake with Family
- 90% of the family think the cake was crap and wants cinamon, 10% thought it was good and is protesting against it saying that they should not even get any cinamon, the parent should not go to the shop to get some.

-Parent gets cinamon anyway
-The 10% quiets down but still shows annoyance at it.
-When the cinamon arrives the 10% will use it even though it will alter the cake they enjoyed so much already.

pro enders just got owned by LOGIC

Nope

[UpDownLeftRight]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...
Yes, I've played some of the game.  But eventhough the requirements say "2GB RAM" and I have 4GB RAM I still have to do a "bcdedit" to enable more RAM.  It was a chore getting this game to work. So since I have to do this whenever I want to play the game I don't play it but here and there.

 

Okay. But that is completely unrelated to this: 

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

- They overly use swear words where it's sounds stupid, 

- theres ****ing sex in it without developing a relationship (at least defending ME),
 
- the combat is deep or some **** - it's in fact short of broken,

- theres the usual suspects like the ****/mean mayor, the strong-willed but fragile girlfriend, the honest/loyal and butt-friend dwarf.

This **** is not new.

Anyway.

Dude_in_the_Room wrote... 
As for the intelligent part:  If it treats the player as an intelligent person and I don't like the game then I would be considerred unintelligent.

... No. If it treats the player intelligently it means that it treats the player intelligently. Not liking it does not mean less intelligent. It kind of means...Not. Liking. It.

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

And just b/c something is in a book doesn't make it more intelligent.  The Kama Sutra is a book but you don't see games turning into pornos do you?  

...?? I f a game would be based around the Kama Sutra it would most definitely be a sexual game.
If a game is based on The Witcher books it will most definitely contain things from the books. Whether that is swearing or sex. But The Witcher isn't based on Kama Sutra so your example is really flawed.

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...
It's not that you perceive intelligence differently.  it's what you implied.  Don't say thats not what you were doing.  YOU BOLDED IT.

 
...
What the fu-Aeowyn said that the game was intelligent. What implication are you even talking about? The impliciation that the game is intelligent? Eh...yeah!

Modifié par UpDownLeftRight, 16 mai 2012 - 05:48 .

[TK EL_]

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

TK EL wrote...

The Witcher 2 was already on my radar since they announced the xbox360 port. Played through it twice and it is an excellent game. Apart from a few nitpicks here and there, it is an excellently crafted story. Its mature status doesn't just come from the nudity or violence in-game, it also points toward the weight and complexity of the decisions you have to make as a very reluctant, and very under appreciated hero; and I use the term hero loosely.

Also people should know that next to NOTHING Yahtzee says should be taken seriously, even when he sounds serious. In his witcher 2 review, he comments that the game seems "nightmarishly long"; I f**king wish. It's about the length of a standard full ME run so it clocks in at about 30-40 hours. I remember in his Arkham City review where he said you couldn't do the side missions post-game; more lies. All of the side missions in that game can be completed post-game.

He didn't say TW2 was long.  He said "From what I understand is a nightmarishly long game."  Saying he doesn't know but thats what he hears. 

If I remember right, he didn't even finish either Witcher games b/c he hates them. 

He also said it was stupid to not have any player training.  Then they added a tutorial.....fancy that.

He could have made an honest mistake regarding Batman.....ppl aren't perfect.

Edit: rewatching that episode....theres actually a lot of truth to it.  Like naming the spells stupid names so you have no idea what you're casting until you use 1 a bunch of times, the unresponsive combat, and how the writing is dark like every other M rated RPG out there.

Truth? There is a grand total of 5 spells. If Yahtzee is not intelligent enough to read their description, then he shouldn't be playing video games. Also where did he hear that it was long? Its highly improbable as no one that has played the game would ever say that, and isn't that what people would acutally prefer? I have no idea where you got your 'unresposive combat' claims from and what exactly is wrong with dark writing? You've basically said nothing. Look, Yahtzee is funny, he should stick to that and not actually try to take a serious tone when he reviews cos he ends up spouting nonsense

[TK EL_]

Wow just read through the thread and realized I was responding to a pathetic troll. That was a waste of wrist movements

[Dude_in_the_Room]

TK EL wrote...

Wow just read through the thread and realized I was responding to a pathetic troll. That was a waste of wrist movements

"You basically said nothing."  

Eventhough everything I said was true - you're just dismissing all of it.

So that makes you a biggot........you sound like a ****ing child.

[KotorEffect3]

The witcher series looks highly overrated

[Taboo]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The witcher series looks highly overrated

I'd like to play them at some point.

My PC is crap though.

[Dude_in_the_Room]

UpDownLeftRight wrote...

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...
Yes, I've played some of the game.  But eventhough the requirements say "2GB RAM" and I have 4GB RAM I still have to do a "bcdedit" to enable more RAM.  It was a chore getting this game to work. So since I have to do this whenever I want to play the game I don't play it but here and there.

 

Okay. But that is completely unrelated to this: 

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

- They overly use swear words where it's sounds stupid, 

- theres ****ing sex in it without developing a relationship (at least defending ME),
 
- the combat is deep or some **** - it's in fact short of broken,

- theres the usual suspects like the ****/mean mayor, the strong-willed but fragile girlfriend, the honest/loyal and butt-friend dwarf.

This **** is not new.

Anyway.

Dude_in_the_Room wrote... 
As for the intelligent part:  If it treats the player as an intelligent person and I don't like the game then I would be considerred unintelligent.

... No. If it treats the player intelligently it means that it treats the player intelligently. Not liking it does not mean less intelligent. It kind of means...Not. Liking. It.

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...

And just b/c something is in a book doesn't make it more intelligent.  The Kama Sutra is a book but you don't see games turning into pornos do you?  

...?? I f a game would be based around the Kama Sutra it would most definitely be a sexual game.
If a game is based on The Witcher books it will most definitely contain things from the books. Whether that is swearing or sex. But The Witcher isn't based on Kama Sutra so your example is really flawed.

Dude_in_the_Room wrote...
It's not that you perceive intelligence differently.  it's what you implied.  Don't say thats not what you were doing.  YOU BOLDED IT.

 
...
What the fu-Aeowyn said that the game was intelligent. What implication are you even talking about? The impliciation that the game is intelligent? Eh...yeah!

I don't want to argue b/c some cry babies will call me a troll for disagreeing.

But, the way I see it:  If the game treats you intelligently and you don't get it then you must not be intelligent.  That implication is there.  Arguing semantics does not negate that.

I thank you for conversing with me with conviction yet keeping your cool though.  I will try and look at it differently.

Modifié par Dude_in_the_Room, 16 mai 2012 - 07:21 .

[KotorEffect3]

ZackG312 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Tirranek wrote...



So someone gives you a cake that you enjoy, then sprinkles some cinamon on it, you were therefore being dishonest about liking the cake before?

That's a terrible analogy, it completely ignores all the whining they done about not wanting more cinamon

A better one would be 

- Share cake with Family
- 90% of the family think the cake was crap and wants cinamon, 10% thought it was good and is protesting against it saying that they should not even get any cinamon, the parent should not go to the shop to get some.

-Parent gets cinamon anyway
-The 10% quiets down but still shows annoyance at it.
-When the cinamon arrives the 10% will use it even though it will alter the cake they enjoyed so much already.

pro enders just got owned by LOGIC

You are not worthy of using a krogan avatar go pick a vorcha or something.

[The Night Mammoth]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The witcher series looks highly overrated

It looks overrated? 

Wow. 

[KotorEffect3]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The witcher series looks highly overrated

It looks overrated? 

Wow. 

correct

[mupp3tz]

Nope. The first time I heard about the game was a bit before the release of TW2. I saw that the game had great reviews, so I checked it out and was sad to see that it was a PC only game -- meaning I couldn't play it, as I only have a Mac. It was one of those games I really wanted to play, but didn't have the thousands of dollars to spend on a gaming PC... so I just pushed it in the background.

And then.. I hear word about a console release! Needless to say, I was extremely excited. Since then, I've upgraded my laptop just a bit, but enough to play TW1 on Mac... so, I finally got around to playing that before TW2 for Xbox was released.

Definitely one of the best franchises I have played.

[liggy002]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The witcher series looks highly overrated

It looks overrated? 

Wow. 

correct

It's not.  It actually lives up to the hype.  Fantastic game.

[Raizo]

No, I was planning on buying "The Witcher 2" back when I first heard about it last year and I heard there was going to be a 360 port. I do find however that "The Witcher 2" is the perfect remedy to counteract my various disappointments with ME3 since it excels in all the areas where ME3 is lacking. I do feel obligated to point out that I like "The Witcher 2" more on paper than I do actually playing it ( at times I find it tedious ), I do have some issues with the inventory, the controls and the ratio of sidequests and the way the distract from the main quest ( in some ways it reminds me of ME1 and did not like ME1 ).

[The Night Mammoth]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The witcher series looks highly overrated

It looks overrated? 

Wow. 

correct

That's such an irrelevant and meaningless comment. 

I don't get how something can look overrated. Either you've played it and have made a decision, or you haven't and you don't have a clue whether it is or isn't. 

[xsdob]

So is this thread still on topic about whether you got into witcher with mass effect 3? or are we just going to derail right off the cliff.

[xIREDEEMEDIx]

no, I have been wanting to pick up the Witcher 2 for a while but haven't had the coin to do so.......hmm, but then picked up a $100 copy of Diablo 3 yesterday.....

[KotorEffect3]

The Night Mammoth wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The witcher series looks highly overrated

It looks overrated? 

Wow. 

correct

That's such an irrelevant and meaningless comment. 

I don't get how something can look overrated. Either you've played it and have made a decision, or you haven't and you don't have a clue whether it is or isn't. 

Your stuck playing as the same protaginist that you can't change up,  he appears to have the same weapon layout each time and is there even a class system in the game?  It looks like there isn't.

[TK EL_]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The witcher series looks highly overrated

So not very different to the Mass Effect series in that respect

[DieHigh2012]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The witcher series looks highly overrated

I thought the same, but then I played it.

You should give it a try, I think you will be surprised by how good it is.

[Dendio1]

TK EL wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

The witcher series looks highly overrated

So not very different to the Mass Effect series in that respect

THIS!!!!!

Everyone was saying Mass effect was so good, but from the outside looking in ( and the game cover) it looked like just another average shooter.

Then I played it and have been in love with the franchise ever since. I honestly had to push myself to give it a shot, it looked so overrated at first.

Modifié par Dendio1, 16 mai 2012 - 08:17 .