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[KotorEffect3]

I think it would be better to ask how it compares to the DA games, especialy DAO

[xsdob]

TUHD wrote...

@Made Nightwing - You make a crucial mistake there. The point of The Witcher that there is no morality system. There is no right or wrong - you purely use your own moral compass (or lack thereof). So ME doesn't have a 'better' morality system then TW, since TW hasn't one to start with.

So basically in the witcher world killing a bandit and killing a baby are the same thing?

[Pelle6666]

Haha! Bought the witcher 2 when it came out, never played it. after ME3 I needed something to clear my head, played Witcher 2 and I fukking loved it! Brilliant game from start to finish especially with the enhanced edition!

[xsdob]

Witcher 2, the rebound girlfriend of rpg's.

That is freaking hilarious.

[Icinix]

TUHD wrote...

@Made Nightwing - You make a crucial mistake there. The point of The Witcher that there is no morality system. There is no right or wrong - you purely use your own moral compass (or lack thereof). So ME doesn't have a 'better' morality system then TW, since TW hasn't one to start with.

Indeed. Its the only game in recent memory I can recall making a decision that I feel is the right one, that has negative consequences later on, but I keep going with it because the original decision still felt like the right one to me.

There is only choice and consequences. The morals of which are totally up to the player to interpret - the journal / quest changes depending on your actions and tries to summarise as much.

Totally love it.

[2484Stryker]

I love both Witcher and Witcher 2. A few of my friends never heard of either just like you but then picked them up at my behest. Most of them didn't enjoy the first one as much as I did (citing dated graphics and bad voice acting), but they all loved the second one. With the Enhanced Edition released now they enjoy it even more.

[ChickenMan77]

Yeah after hearing everybody talk it up here...got the witcher 2 for the 360 and had a blast ..it's not for everybody, though..the combat is brutal until you get the hang of it.

first game I had to set it to easy to get comfortable with it and now can really only survive at normal...I thought me3 insanity was a cakewalk..

one thing it makes me appreciate how good the VA's for bioware are.... not that the witcher2 was bad or anything...just seemed kind of wooden at times..maybe cuz the game is translated from polish

Modifié par ChickenMan77, 16 mai 2012 - 01:38 .

[LinksOcarina]

I played the first game a while ago not because of Mass Effect, but because of my love for RPGs.

It was not that good in my opinion, I heard Witcher 2 was better and from what I saw and played, it is a lot better in some respects.

Combat though...not so much, thats what turned me off in game one, and game 2 it seems like it didn't change much...

Modifié par LinksOcarina, 16 mai 2012 - 01:36 .

[TUHD]

xsdob wrote...

TUHD wrote...

@Made Nightwing - You make a crucial mistake there. The point of The Witcher that there is no morality system. There is no right or wrong - you purely use your own moral compass (or lack thereof). So ME doesn't have a 'better' morality system then TW, since TW hasn't one to start with.

So basically in the witcher world killing a bandit and killing a baby are the same thing?

Not completely. Of course thing like the latter are hardcoded by the common people being friendly-status thereby untouchable. And otherwise villagers WILL come after you. But the choices you are given... you aren't being condemned for your decisions. Also, they're longterm. Where in Mass Effect you notice the effects of your decisions quickly, in the Witcher you will always find events spiralling out of your control thanks to earlier decisions. Where as ME like the most games pretent you have full control over the world, the Witcher doesn't pretent that. While your role affects the world, you aren't being put on scene as the big hero who thinks he can save the world.
As a matter of fact, Geralt of Rivia only 'saves the world' due to conflicts of interests where his interests collide with some of the schemes of rulers, assassins, magistrates and others. He's the hero without the wish to be a hero.

[Made Nightwing]

xsdob wrote...

TUHD wrote...

@Made Nightwing - You make a crucial mistake there. The point of The Witcher that there is no morality system. There is no right or wrong - you purely use your own moral compass (or lack thereof). So ME doesn't have a 'better' morality system then TW, since TW hasn't one to start with.

So basically in the witcher world killing a bandit and killing a baby are the same thing?

My point was that in Mass Effect you build up a certain reputation, and that reputation allows you to unlock certain options. In the Witcher, there is no specific reputation, and it would be nice to see Geralt being acknowledged for being either more driven by morality or passion (for instance I went with my heart rather than my head for the whole game, but that was not acknowledged) It's just a feature that Mass Effect has that it does well. It probably wouldn't suit the Witcher, but for a game that does such a great job of acknowledging Geralt's choices, it could do more to acknowledge Geralt himself.

EDIT: I totally enjoyed that I could interpret my own morality, I really did, and I wouldn't want it changed. I was just comparing the features.

Modifié par Made Nightwing, 16 mai 2012 - 01:38 .

[TUHD]

ChickenMan77 wrote...

Yeah after hearing everybody talk it up here...got the witcher 2 for the 360 and had a blast ..it's not for everybody, though..the combat is brutal until you get the hang of it.
first game I had to set it to easy to get comfortable with it and now can really only survive at normal...I thought me3 insanity was a cakewalk..

one thing it makes me appreciate how good the VA's for bioware are.... not that the witcher2 was bad or anything...just seemed kind of wooden at times..maybe cuz the game is translated from polish

Hehe... I am not a bad character builder, but my reactions leave some to be desired... my god, despite having done multiple playthroughs of both TW1 and TW2, I STILL refrain from going to the highest difficulty. I'd just get slaughtered there. Easy if not chosen right already can leave you sweating at moments. Normal is already pretty brutal... nevermind more difficult settings then that one. Not even going to bother to attempt the Dark setting for a while LOL!

[KnifeForkAndSpoon]

xsdob wrote...

Witcher 2, the rebound girlfriend of rpg's.

Amongst Bioware fans it might be.

[lordofdogtown19]

Not a PC gamer so no

[TUHD]

lordofdogtown19 wrote...

Not a PC gamer so no

The Witcher 2 got released for Xbox some time ago ^^

[frylock23]

I tried it and couldn't get into it. I like female protagonists, so Geralt just isn't up my alley.

[xsdob]

Okay, I can see the appeal of that type of morality system. I thought it would be like red dead redemption or grand theft auto, where your character is all "I just want a new life away from killing" in the cutscene and than go on a killing spree with no consequence.

[Made Nightwing]

TUHD wrote...

ChickenMan77 wrote...

Yeah after hearing everybody talk it up here...got the witcher 2 for the 360 and had a blast ..it's not for everybody, though..the combat is brutal until you get the hang of it.
first game I had to set it to easy to get comfortable with it and now can really only survive at normal...I thought me3 insanity was a cakewalk..

one thing it makes me appreciate how good the VA's for bioware are.... not that the witcher2 was bad or anything...just seemed kind of wooden at times..maybe cuz the game is translated from polish

Hehe... I am not a bad character builder, but my reactions leave some to be desired... my god, despite having done multiple playthroughs of both TW1 and TW2, I STILL refrain from going to the highest difficulty. I'd just get slaughtered there. Easy if not chosen right already can leave you sweating at moments. Normal is already pretty brutal... nevermind more difficult settings then that one. Not even going to bother to attempt the Dark setting for a while LOL!

Finished my first playthrough on Easy and aced it. I'm going to tackle the bull by the horns and tackle Dark to get the achievement. Planning on doing a lot of backstabbing to avoid combat, and rolling all over the place

[xsdob]

KnifeForkAndSpoon wrote...

xsdob wrote...

Witcher 2, the rebound girlfriend of rpg's.

Amongst Bioware fans it might be.

This is the bioware fan forums is it not?

[lordofdogtown19]

TUHD wrote...

lordofdogtown19 wrote...

Not a PC gamer so no

The Witcher 2 got released for Xbox some time ago ^^

huh interesting. Is Witcher 1 on xbox too? I'm not too fond of jumping into a story half way

[TUHD]

Made Nightwing wrote...

TUHD wrote...

ChickenMan77 wrote...

Yeah after hearing everybody talk it up here...got the witcher 2 for the 360 and had a blast ..it's not for everybody, though..the combat is brutal until you get the hang of it.
first game I had to set it to easy to get comfortable with it and now can really only survive at normal...I thought me3 insanity was a cakewalk..

one thing it makes me appreciate how good the VA's for bioware are.... not that the witcher2 was bad or anything...just seemed kind of wooden at times..maybe cuz the game is translated from polish

Hehe... I am not a bad character builder, but my reactions leave some to be desired... my god, despite having done multiple playthroughs of both TW1 and TW2, I STILL refrain from going to the highest difficulty. I'd just get slaughtered there. Easy if not chosen right already can leave you sweating at moments. Normal is already pretty brutal... nevermind more difficult settings then that one. Not even going to bother to attempt the Dark setting for a while LOL!

Finished my first playthrough on Easy and aced it. I'm going to tackle the bull by the horns and tackle Dark to get the achievement. Planning on doing a lot of backstabbing to avoid combat, and rolling all over the place

Good luck. Easy is what it is - easy. Dark is like 'How often do you want to die per second, 2 times or 4 times?'

[Made Nightwing]

@TUHD. Well, I can skip some of the combat sequences in the prologue, while still making the choices that will allow me to avoid combat at the end of it. Chapter One is going to be insane, Chapter Two will be easier, and the last few choices of Chapter Three will be simple enough.

[TUHD]

lordofdogtown19 wrote...

TUHD wrote...

lordofdogtown19 wrote...

Not a PC gamer so no

The Witcher 2 got released for Xbox some time ago ^^

huh interesting. Is Witcher 1 on xbox too? I'm not too fond of jumping into a story half way

No it isn't. But CD Projekt Red created some special stuff for the Xbox so people will know the story of the first The Witcher. Also, while TW will likely become a trilogy as well, it isn't too important to have played the first game, since decisions of the first game have only minor impact in TW2. Also, the situation in TW2 is that radically different and completely other motives in the story, it just wouldn't compute to need to have played the first Witcher.

[ZackG312]

TUHD wrote...

@Made Nightwing - You make a crucial mistake there. The point of The Witcher that there is no morality system. There is no right or wrong - you purely use your own moral compass (or lack thereof). So ME doesn't have a 'better' morality system then TW, since TW hasn't one to start with.

I have to agree, I saved people and refused their money, spared Sheala, Letho, Henslet, and The Dragon, ( after they tried to kill me)  decided that Triss was more important than the future of a Kingdom.

The Witcher 2 is the Best game I have played this Gen

Modifié par ZackG312, 16 mai 2012 - 01:51 .

[BigZ7337]

It didn't lead me to the Witcher 2, but I am playing it at the moment and the game is amazing, it's almost making me forget about Mass Effect 3 (something Batman Arkham City and Saint's Row 3 couldn't do). I'm in the midst of the third act, and what's great about the game is that the choices you make create vast differences in the rest of your game, unlike some games I wont mention.

[TUHD]

Made Nightwing wrote...

@TUHD. Well, I can skip some of the combat sequences in the prologue, while still making the choices that will allow me to avoid combat at the end of it. Chapter One is going to be insane, Chapter Two will be easier, and the last few choices of Chapter Three will be simple enough.

Chapter 2 will be hell depending on your choice. Certainly if you side with the elves, cleaning out the ghostly battlefield is one heck of a challenge - certainly on higher difficulty levels.