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[danby]

So the original ending was suppose to be that the reapers were made to prevent the destruction of the galaxy from the proliferation of the mass effect fields.    What this means is that when there are too many mass effect generators(ie, ships ect) in the galaxy,  it was suppose to basically create like a galaxy wide singularity event.   

This was the main arc for all 3 mass effect games.  It was elluded to in mass effect 2 in the mission where you get tali.   She was there to find out why the sun of that system had suddenly ballooned in size and was getting close to going super nova.   This was a prelude to what would happen on a galactic wide scale.

This is why the reapers were created.   There was also something about why the reapers were so interested in humanity.  It had something to do with our genetic diversity.   Mordin mentions it in mass effect 2 when you ask him why they would us humans to test the weapon.

Apparently for 100's of thousands of years the reapers have been trying(unsuccessfully) to break this cycle.   They thought that humanities genetic diversity poured into a new reaper would give them the ability to find a way to stop this permanently.

Also sheppards actions in the first and second game delayed the reapers culling of mass effect fields so it was becoming a very desperate situation.  Its why the reapers are so reclass in thier attacks in the third game.

I find this to be a far more interesting moral dilema for sheppard when harbinger finally lays it all out in the end. 
Does sheppard let them continue thier culling and save the galaxy from certain destruction.  Does sheppard negotiate a cease fire while they try to come up with anouther solution, or does sheppard say screw it and takes a chance that by destroying the reapers they can find anouther solution in time.

Im pretty sure that the war assets would factor into this too.   The prothien guy talks about how only the prothiens were fighting the reapers while all the other races were fending for themselves.   So a completely unified galactic fleet may very well be able to destroy the reapers.   This puts harbinger in a position of almost having to beg sheppard to let them continue,  while having a low number may just lead to everyone getting wiped out by the reapers anyways.

I believe they changed the ending last minute because one of the writers or staff leaked the original ending so they threw together the technicolour ending last minute.  

Anways any thoughts?

P.S.  Also the game was suppose to start off with sheppard being tried in a batarian court.  While they question sheppard about why she/he did it(destroyed the batarian relay) the reapers show up.  Liara and garrus break sheppard out and they have to go steal back the normandy. 

[David7204]

The ending in the leaked script was the same as the one released.

And there's no way the Alliance would release Shepard to a batarian court. I'm glad they didn't do that.

There are big problems to that dark energy ending. For one, both Tali's recruitment and loyalty missions in Mass Effect 2 are optional. It would be really difficult to fill players who had skipped them.

Modifié par David7204, 16 mai 2012 - 02:09 .

[UrgentArchengel]

Let's not forget, the series is called, MASS EFECT. They should've just stuck with it.

[gavinbrindstaar]

Damn, that ending would have been awesome. Beginning too.

[danby]

Perhaps i should have said the original overall story arc for the series then. It makes perfect thematic sense. The first game started with the mass effect field bringing humanity into the galactic stage, then ending the third game with the mass effect field possibly destroying everything in the end.

Modifié par danby, 16 mai 2012 - 02:08 .

[Deemz]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Let's not forget, the series is called, MASS EFECT. They should've just stuck with it.

Beats the hell out of VENT RAT

[Taboo]

This would have been a lot better.

Thanks Walters.

[danby]

Oh and to david, sheppard did just destroy and entire batarian system. I couldn't see how the alliance wouldn't let them try sheppard.

[KnifeForkAndSpoon]

That would have been so much better

[Impulse and Compulse]

The Dark Energy ending wasn't great, but it was better than ending it like the Sopranos.

[tilusN7]

There's still something pretty nonsensical about this ending. Dark energy already makes up around 70% of the energy density of the entire universe. Any amount you added to it would be negligble. Granted the plot could be worked around it (extreme local build up or whatever), how does a genetically diverse organic species make the dark energy problem go away?

I'd have honestly liked the reapers motivations to stay illusive even at the conclusion of Mass Effect 3. The first conversation you have with soveriegn led you to believe that they were so far beyond us, and that we couldn't possibly understand their purpose. In flies starkid and tells us his circular argument for why they exist. Defeating the reapers despite not knowing why they reaped would have been a good type of 'speculation for everyone' if you ask me.

[devSin]

This is false.

There was no ending in place when Mass Effect was created. (They knew it was going to be Reapers and mass relays, but they had nothing specific on the board at that point.)

The dark energy plot was one that came up during ME2 (or was still on the table when they started work on the sequel), but it never went anywhere.

All the evidence suggests that the current ending was decided before they started work on ME3.

Modifié par devSin, 16 mai 2012 - 02:22 .

[ChickenMan77]

Deemz wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Let's not forget, the series is called, MASS EFECT. They should've just stuck with it.

Beats the hell out of VENT RAT

Yeah was waiting for the titular "Mass Effect" effect to come in to play somehow...

should of called the game AI Effect or Synthetic Singularity or Cybernetic Event Horizon...

guess that's what happen's when you change the story 2/3's of the way in

[christrek1982]

how dose human DNA have any affect on suns going supper nova? Besides that they should of stuck with both the beginning and the end.

[uprightSimian]

This sounds more like fan fiction than an actual leaked script.

"Too many Mass Effect fields" is straight off an episode of ST:TNG. In ME2 the star Haestrom "aging" was being caused by dark matter/energy, which actually links better to the crucible/catalyst because dark energy is part of it. There is no prior disclosure of any link of mass effect fields to dark energy.

The reapers weren't originally interested in Humanity, they were interested in Shep. Protheans were the ones interested in humans.

A trial in a Batarian court does not make sense if you never played arrival, not to mention when/how did they capture him? In a stealth ship?

[Deemz]

Impulse and Compulse wrote...

The Dark Energy ending wasn't great, but it was better than ending it like the Sopranos.

The ending to the Sopranos was so much better than the ending to ME3.

[kaztas]

My only problem would be then why would the Reapers want the civilizations to advance along the lines the Reapers set when they left their tech behind, if by following those lines would mean the excess use of Mass Effect and dark energy?

[danby]

Perhaps thats their problem kaztas. Part of their solution leads to civilizations making mass effect fields. Kinda a circular logic problem. They left the mass effect gates in place so that they had quick access to all parts of the galaxy to curtail civilizations who create mass effect fields, but in doing so insure that the civilizations in question discover and recreate them.


Heres a bit of an ironic twist on this whole situation. Apparently the original ending WAS the dark energy ending. It was leaked and because of the internet backlash from people thinking that ending was stupid it was changed to the ending that we have now. Hah.

Now i've found out a little more about it and apparently it wasn't THAT different to the one we have now.

I'm pasting this from anouther thread somewhere which actually explains a bit better what it entailed.

From a user called EhkoXC

"For those of you who haven't read it, basically the galaxy is heading towards a dark energy singularity that will wipe out everything as the amounts continue to build. The creators of the Reapers knew this would happen and created them to find a solution. Once new space-faring species appear they harvest civilizations that they deem worthy and able to help solve the issue.

In the current cycle the amount of dark energy has reached "critical mass," and due to humanity's unique genetic diversity (as mentioned in ME 2) the Reapers attempted to harvest them since they believed humanity could solve the Dark Energy problem.

In the ending, you still would have talked to God Child (I know, I know), but you would have been given the choice of sacrificing humanity to the Reapers while letting every other race live or destroying the Reapers and leaving it up to the current space-faring races to solve the problem themselves."

I kinda like those choices better as they really put sheppard through the ringer.

[danby]

I have a feeling that perhaps the Extended Cut DLC may actually put this back in.

Modifié par danby, 17 mai 2012 - 10:37 .

[Lisa_H]

I would have loved that ending

[danby]

Here is a good video on it. This is the guy that i originally heard it from. Actually all his videos on the me3 ending are good. They are LONG though .

Anyways enjoy.

[No_MSG]

The ending still suffers from one of the major problems of this ending. Why are the Reapers suddenly the good guys? Why can I describe the Reapers in one sentence? If the Reapers are saving us, why are they all such giant douche bags? Could have saved a lot of trouble if they'd just show up and be like "Yo, you need to stop using mass effect fields, broskis. Since we're not morons, we're not going to trust you to not do it. So we're going to kill you now."

[Swimming Ferret]

Still sounds too "Speshul Mary Sue human" to me. Still, would have made more sense than the crap we got.

[danby]

No_MSG wrote...

The ending still suffers from one of the major problems of this ending. Why are the Reapers suddenly the good guys? Why can I describe the Reapers in one sentence? If the Reapers are saving us, why are they all such giant douche bags? Could have saved a lot of trouble if they'd just show up and be like "Yo, you need to stop using mass effect fields, broskis. Since we're not morons, we're not going to trust you to not do it. So we're going to kill you now."

Perhaps the transformation of a civilization into a reaper is so tramatic that it just makes them huge ****s.

[OblivionDawn]

This is a far superior story. It's a shame they didn't use it.