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[brettc893]

Is there a "You First BEEYATCH." Roll her into the Presidium Lake option?

I hate her so effing much.

[Mad-Hamlet]

Noblewolf wrote...

Shooting kaidan was like shooting a puppy.....With a shotgun....in the face

I don't LIKE puppies.

[fr33stylez]

You're upset she wasn't nice to you after you shot her to death? lol

[hoodaticus]

My first few trilogy playthroughs, I was loyal to Ash the whole way.

But she twice refused to stand by me: once on Horizon, once at the Citadel, and then repeatedly in small matters where she stopped trusting me. So I asked myself, doesn't Shepard deserve better?.

Why, yes, yes he does.

Modifié par hoodaticus, 16 mai 2012 - 11:51 .

[EricHVela]

Kaidan made me feel guilty for making Shepard shoot him.

Ashley made me feel ... well ... Actually, she didn't make me feel any sympathy for her.

[SGC Reaper SV]

fr33stylez wrote...

You're upset she wasn't nice to you after you shot her to death? lol

+1 

[JackofStaves]

hoodaticus wrote...

My first few trilogy playthroughs, I was loyal to Ash the whole way.

But she twice refused to stand by me: once on Horizon, once at the Citadel, and then repeatedly in small matters where she stopped trusting me. So I asked myself, doesn't Shepard deserve better?.

Why, yes, yes he does.

She *is* kind of ****y throughout.  I just started an ME1-3 playthrough, and I'd forgotten how much of a pain in the ass she is.  Comments like, "Uh Hellooo, Ms Prothean Expert, I thought you were supposed to know all this stuff." to Liara really make me want to leave her ass in the smoking crater at Virmire....

[sw04ca]

Ashley's suspicions are a good thing, and are part of what makes me like her. If your significant other started running around with a brutal gang of murderous thugs who kidnapped people and performed Mengele-style experiments on them, you might start to reevaluate the relationship. Ashley wasn't indoctrinated by the facade of a friendly crew. She knew what Cerberus was all along. She was right and Shepard was wrong.

[BDelacroix]

...and that's precisely what happens.  She was a prophet.

[Iucounou]

hoodaticus wrote...

My first few trilogy playthroughs, I was loyal to Ash the whole way.

But she twice refused to stand by me: once on Horizon, once at the Citadel, and then repeatedly in small matters where she stopped trusting me. So I asked myself, doesn't Shepard deserve better?.

Why, yes, yes he does.

This.

Ashley acted like a tool from the beginning in ME1, where I romanced her (talk about relationships you come to regret!). Then in ME2 she blew me off (because I was with some Cerberus guys, never mind I was trying to save the frickin' galaxy!). Then in ME3 she was all "let's get back together!" and came over as if nothing had happened.

There were two very satisfying moments in ME3. The first was when I decided NOT to buy her a present in the hospital. I kept her at arms length the whole time. The second when I got to put a bullet in her untrusting ass during the Udina scenes.

I mean, seriously, that **** has issues.

[Razhathael]

I'll never understand people defending her. She was with Shepard at the beginning, then in ME2 she refuses to listen to reason. "Fine, whatever, I guess I can kind of understand that". Then in ME3 she continues to do so, and keeps talking about how she needs to trust me.

How about an option to tell her that I don't need to prove her a damn thing. The game was so focused on trying to make Ash look the victim and my Shepard could never give her a good answer, always just Ash ranting and Shepard maybe saying "you need to trust me". or "I understand your concern".

Now, I visited her at the hospital and crap, wasn't unreasonable at her or anything, but in the end she's still trusting Udina over me. Udina, the guy who betrayed us in ME1. She's always on about how she needs to trust me. But I could never say that I need to trust her, and I do NOT trust her.

I saw the paragon and renegade speeches, but decided to choose the neutral one because if she likes Udina so much, she can die with him. Cruel? Maybe. But amongst a reaper invasion, the least I should expect is trust, especially from people who were at the beginning. If she isn't smart enough to see the bigger threat, she's useless, and someone who I couldn't trust to have my back, ever.

sw04ca wrote...

Ashley's suspicions are a good thing, and
are part of what makes me like her. If your significant other started
running around with a brutal gang of murderous thugs who kidnapped
people and performed Mengele-style experiments on them, you might start
to reevaluate the relationship. Ashley wasn't indoctrinated by the
facade of a friendly crew. She knew what Cerberus was all along. She
was right and Shepard was wrong.

Her suspicion is not a good thing. You can like her character, I won't blame you, but that's just silly. Maybe it was somewhat reasonable in ME2, but in ME3 it wasn't. And the "she was right, Shepard was wrong" argument it pointless, Shepard only fully trusts illusive man if the player chooses to, and gives him the base. Shepard never did any pro-cerberus stuff in my playthrough, the whole "killing the collectors by using Cerberus" thing worked, the collectors died, and Cerberus didn't profit from it at all. So, no she wasn't right. I always said it was a "necessary evil" that I was using, and I was right.

Her untrust however, is not right, and I shouldn't need to be super-nice and forgiving to her, if she isn't. She needed a good speech where I could tell her to get over it and trust her superior officers. She's clearly not fit for duty.

Modifié par Razhathael, 16 mai 2012 - 01:14 .

[JackofStaves]

sw04ca wrote...

Ashley's suspicions are a good thing, and are part of what makes me like her. If your significant other started running around with a brutal gang of murderous thugs who kidnapped people and performed Mengele-style experiments on them, you might start to reevaluate the relationship. Ashley wasn't indoctrinated by the facade of a friendly crew. She knew what Cerberus was all along. She was right and Shepard was wrong.

Eh, my playthrough had Shepard highly suspicious of TIM and Cerberus, but having to make do with the lesser of two evils and using the flawed tools available to stop the greater immediate threat of the Reapers.  I loved her tough-minded attitude, but the immediate reversion to distrust got a little old...

[sw04ca]

JackofStaves wrote...

sw04ca wrote...
Ashley's suspicions are a good thing, and are part of what makes me like her. If your significant other started running around with a brutal gang of murderous thugs who kidnapped people and performed Mengele-style experiments on them, you might start to reevaluate the relationship. Ashley wasn't indoctrinated by the facade of a friendly crew. She knew what Cerberus was all along. She was right and Shepard was wrong.

Eh, my playthrough had Shepard highly suspicious of TIM and Cerberus, but having to make do with the lesser of two evils and using the flawed tools available to stop the greater immediate threat of the Reapers.  I loved her tough-minded attitude, but the immediate reversion to distrust got a little old...

Sure you might be a grudging collaborator, but you're still working with the most evil group in the history of humanity.  People didn't exactly shower Quisling with love either.

[Vespervin]

Mike 9987 wrote...

I wish i could have sent her unconscious body out of the airlock after mars and just told the alliance she was KIA.

My Renegade Shepard would love to do that. Heck, even my Paragon would do it. 

[JBPBRC]

Yoshiyuki Ly wrote...

Did you visit her in the hospital? Give her any gifts?

.

I absolutely LOLed at the amount of gifts it was possible to give to Ashley.

Kaidan? Just give him some booze and he's cool about it.

Ashley? There was chocolates, flowers, and like six or seven different poetry collections.

...Yeah.

[Vespervin]

alec1898 wrote...

Well Kaidan is the ultimate wingman and he gives me Carth KOTOR nostalgia.

That just reminded me of something. FemShep is voiced by Jennifer Hale (Bastila) and Kaidan is voiced by Raphael Sbarge (Carth). Oh, the conversations that Carth and Bastila had. 

I just wish FemShep sounded like Bastila and not her current VO work. FemShep seems to try and talk manly during ME. 

Modifié par Vespervin, 16 mai 2012 - 05:11 .

[Kungfu Nando]

Why is it in cutscenes shields mysteriously disappear?

[Iwillbeback]

Strangely if you be a **** then you get the ending you deserve.
Unfortunately so does every other playthrough style.

[JBPBRC]

Kungfu Nando wrote...

Why is it in cutscenes shields mysteriously disappear?

Probably the same reason a Cain can one-shot a Reaper Destroyer...

Artistic Integrity!

[xI extremist Ix]

Kungfu Nando wrote...

Why is it in cutscenes shields mysteriously disappear?

Marauder Shields!

[shepskisaac]

Kungfu Nando wrote...

Why is it in cutscenes shields mysteriously disappear?

I have a better question. Why can't Kaidan use Barrier in a cutscene? Ohh right because then the entire stand-off would have to be differently constructed from Ashley's...

[Iwillbeback]

JBPBRC wrote...

Kungfu Nando wrote...

Why is it in cutscenes shields mysteriously disappear?

Probably the same reason a Cain can one-shot a Reaper Destroyer...

Artistic Integrity!

Was that a Reaper destroyer.
Some say it was just an orbital defence Reaper.

[JBPBRC]

Iwillbeback wrote...

JBPBRC wrote...

Kungfu Nando wrote...

Why is it in cutscenes shields mysteriously disappear?

Probably the same reason a Cain can one-shot a Reaper Destroyer...

Artistic Integrity!

Was that a Reaper destroyer.
Some say it was just an orbital defence Reaper.

It was an anti-air cannon mounted on the back of a Reaper Destroyer. The only difference between the one that got hugged to death by Kalros and the one who died from a Cain was the giant cannon on the back of the latter. Everything else is visibly identical.

[Iwillbeback]

IsaacShep wrote...

Kungfu Nando wrote...

Why is it in cutscenes shields mysteriously disappear?

I have a better question. Why can't Kaidan use Barrier in a cutscene? Ohh right because then the entire stand-off would have to be differently constructed from Ashley's...

I 'd prefer some sort of other execution against him.
Maybe your squadmate holds him down and you biotic fist him or tear his guts out or drop him to his death after breaking his arms.

[Iwillbeback]

JBPBRC wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

JBPBRC wrote...

Kungfu Nando wrote...

Why is it in cutscenes shields mysteriously disappear?

Probably the same reason a Cain can one-shot a Reaper Destroyer...

Artistic Integrity!

Was that a Reaper destroyer.
Some say it was just an orbital defence Reaper.

It was an anti-air cannon mounted on the back of a Reaper Destroyer. The only difference between the one that got hugged to death by Kalros and the one who died from a Cain was the giant cannon on the back of the latter. Everything else is visibly identical.

Was the Reaper on Rannoch a Capital ship then?