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[known_hero]

Xellith wrote...

Japanese games tend to use Japanese characters for the most part.
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No they don't. Most of their characters are white.

[tobynator89]

my main femshep is black, don't see a problem

[tobynator89]

known_hero wrote...

Xellith wrote...

Japanese games tend to use Japanese characters for the most part.
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No they don't. Most of their characters are white.

no, they're anime characters, they all look the same.

[sw04ca]

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...
Wait a second...

Why would a non-white character not appeal to whites?

Because white people prefer white characters.

[known_hero]

tobynator89 wrote...

known_hero wrote...

Xellith wrote...

Japanese games tend to use Japanese characters for the most part.
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No they don't. Most of their characters are white.

no, they're anime characters, they all look the same.

Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Street Fighter(mostly non j-characters),Metal Gear Solid, Binary Domain, Vanquish, Silent Hill, old school games like Virtua Cop, House of the Dead, Dino Crisis.

That's off the top of my head. Non Japanese characters.

[RetroActiv]

devSin wrote...

They can and have. Jade Empire.

Regardless, I agree that diversity is a worthy goal.

Yeah i figured people would mention Jade Empire but it's not exactly the same because you don't really have a choice. You are just given several different defaults to choose from. It is significant though that they would create an entire game based largely on what i'm assuming was ancient chinese mythology.

[RedArmyShogun]

Pft someone obviously never played Jade Empire

OR!!! *dramatic pause and finger point!*

OP IS A RACISTS And thinks of Asians as coconut people who are color o nthe outside and white on the indise thus not of what he defines as non white.

I'm on to you OP >>

[i IIVIIorpheus]

sw04ca wrote...

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...
Wait a second...

Why would a non-white character not appeal to whites?

Because white people prefer white characters.

Nice simple minded thinking you have there....

[rolson00]

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

sw04ca wrote...

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...
Wait a second...

Why would a non-white character not appeal to whites?

Because white people prefer white characters.

Nice simple minded thinking you have there....

in games i like haveing a black guy as a party member and comrade but i wouldnt play as one.
hes not being simple minded just saying as it is white people like playing as white charectar just as im sure black peeps play as balck peeps.

[Gibb_Shepard]

Depends on what context the game is in. Just chucking in a black guy for the hell of it would be laughably pointless. If the game is based among African tribes, then obviously they wouldn't have some white Englishman as the default.

[stonbw1]

Zaidra wrote...

RetroActiv wrote...

Whether male or female the default lead protagonist always been portrayed as white  in Bioware's games. To my knowledge this is all we've ever seen represented when it comes to advertisements and promotional trailers as well as the in game default characters.  Do you think this will ever change or that it even should? Personally I'd like for Bioware to decide one of these days to have their default lead protagonists portrayed as something other than white male/white female. It's not a huge deal to me or anything but  It's just one of those things you can't help but notice over the years. I don't expect this to be a very popular thread  topic but hopefully it will be handled maturely. Thoughts?

I don't think it's a racist thing, I think they choose whatever face goes best with the voice acting. 

That's a slippery slope, but I do recall that Ash's VA in ME was black.  Confirmation anyone?

[Gibb_Shepard]

stonbw1 wrote...

Zaidra wrote...

RetroActiv wrote...

Whether male or female the default lead protagonist always been portrayed as white  in Bioware's games. To my knowledge this is all we've ever seen represented when it comes to advertisements and promotional trailers as well as the in game default characters.  Do you think this will ever change or that it even should? Personally I'd like for Bioware to decide one of these days to have their default lead protagonists portrayed as something other than white male/white female. It's not a huge deal to me or anything but  It's just one of those things you can't help but notice over the years. I don't expect this to be a very popular thread  topic but hopefully it will be handled maturely. Thoughts?

I don't think it's a racist thing, I think they choose whatever face goes best with the voice acting. 

That's a slippery slope, but I do recall that Ash's VA in ME was black.  Confirmation anyone?

Yep she's a burly black woman. Never would've guessed.

[sackyhack]

Out of all the companies that you could complain about, you pick the one that allows for customizable main characters??

[What a Succulent Ass]

known_hero wrote...

No they don't. Most of their characters are white.

No they're not. Some characters (the old FF games, Metal Gear) are explicitly white (and Anerican, if so), but the vast majority, including the animé characters, are supposed to be Japanese, even ambiguously.

EDIT: If you noticed what you listed, they have several things in common:

A) The characters are explicitly American or (implied) European (though that shouldn't necessarily make them white)

and

They were created for international consumption. Those games aren't popular in the domestic market.

Modifié par Random Jerkface, 16 mai 2012 - 03:22 .

[i IIVIIorpheus]

rolson00 wrote...

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...

sw04ca wrote...

i IIVIIorpheus wrote...
Wait a second...

Why would a non-white character not appeal to whites?

Because white people prefer white characters.

Nice simple minded thinking you have there....

in games i like haveing a black guy as a party member and comrade but i wouldnt play as one.
hes not being simple minded just saying as it is white people like playing as white charectar just as im sure black peeps play as balck peeps.

I am not saying you won't tend to play with what you're familiar with.   All my Sheps are black.  My issue is that when the OP says "why isn't there a non white lead character?", the response is "well you can change Shep to whatever you want", but when it is flipped, the answer is "it's what the "majority" appeals to".  Well if you can change your Shep anyway, why does it matter in one case and not the other?

I sense hypocrisy in the room....

Modifié par i IIVIIorpheus, 16 mai 2012 - 03:25 .

[What a Succulent Ass]

rolson00 wrote...

in games i like haveing a black guy as a party member and comrade but i wouldnt play as one.

Why not?

hes not being simple minded just saying as it is white people like playing as white charectar just as im sure black peeps play as balck peeps.

"Black peeps" don't often get a chance to play black characters (especially ones that aren't stereotyped bullsh*ts), so their preference is really irrelevant.

[The Edge]

I'm just waiting to play as a Turian

[known_hero]

Random Jerkface wrote...

known_hero wrote...

No they don't. Most of their characters are white.

No they're not. Some characters (the old FF games, Metal Gear) are explicitly white (and Anerican, if so), but the vast majority, including the animé characters, are supposed to be Japanese, even ambiguously so.

Read my follow up post.

[What a Succulent Ass]

known_hero wrote...

Read my follow up post.

Read my edit.

[Volumes]

Why doesn't Bioware ever have Irish leads in their games?

I am sad.

[shepskisaac]

Rombomm wrote...

Diversity for the sake of diversity is kind of stupid.

It's less stupid than "let's have a white bald guy as the poster hero again, like 89123470374 other games!".

[What a Succulent Ass]

Rombomm wrote...

Diversity for the sake of diversity is kind of stupid.

Why?

[2seater]

Rombomm wrote...

Diversity for the sake of diversity is kind of stupid.

I agree with that statement. Because forced diversity leads to things like Jar Jar Binks, then no one's happy.

But at far as the developers, they are mostly white, and are probably not around many other ethnicities in their enviornment, so that diverse influence isn't there. It's not the fact of diversifing the characters themselves, but diversifing the work enviornment with qualified professionals of all enthnicities. Therefore, the influence of different cultures and races will be more prevelant and then lead to....diverse characters.

[shepskisaac]

Random Jerkface wrote...

Rombomm wrote...

Diversity for the sake of diversity is kind of stupid.

Why?

Seriously. When you can have so many skin colors, eye shapes, hairstyles to chose from to design your pratagonist and make him/her look unique and stand out from the rest, why would you go for a bald marine white guy look again? I bet it's just dictated by marketing teams "because white bald marine appeals the best to dudebros yay!"...

[known_hero]

Random Jerkface wrote...

known_hero wrote...

No they don't. Most of their characters are white.

No they're not. Some characters (the old FF games, Metal Gear) are explicitly white (and Anerican, if so), but the vast majority, including the animé characters, are supposed to be Japanese, even ambiguously.

EDIT: If you noticed what you listed, they have several things in common:

A) The characters are explicitly American or (implied) European (though that shouldn't necessarily make them white)

and

They were created for international consumption. Those games aren't popular in the domestic market.

Resident evil, FF and MGS aren't popular in Japan?!?!