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[Gen Petitt]

Pottumuusi wrote...

Oransel wrote...

Sometimes you have to get your hands dirty to achieve great goal. For example, I have not let David Archer into the Grissom Academy. He would be of a much better use for Humanity if he would continue taking part in VI improvement program. Also, I killed Mordin, because genophage should have stayed. Or keeping Collector's base. Not a "good" actions by general definition, but neccessary. Someone has to get the job done.

Maybe the goal isn't worth reaching, if your hands get too dirty.

That what Cerberus is all about getting your hands dirty to support your own greed even in ME1 and I hate that idea

[sorentoft]

For the Emperor!

[MisterJB]

Pottumuusi wrote...
Maybe the goal isn't worth reaching, if your hands get too dirty.

Who decides at which point it's "too dirty"?

Modifié par MisterJB, 17 mai 2012 - 10:45 .

[Someone With Mass]

Oransel wrote...
Sometimes you have to get your hands dirty to achieve great goal. For example, I have not let David Archer into the Grissom Academy. He would be of a much better use for Humanity if he would continue taking part in VI improvement program. Also, I killed Mordin, because genophage should have stayed. Or keeping Collector's base. Not a "good" actions by general definition, but neccessary. Someone has to get the job done.

No, that's purely what you think is the right course of action, followed by the imagined consequence. None of those actions are necessary.

You have no way of knowing for certain that someone or something will benefit anyone or everyone in a specific way prior to making that choice.

It's the point behind not having the "best" choice available.

Which is why I personally think the Synthesis ending falls flat on its ass.

[Gen Petitt]

MisterJB wrote...

Pottumuusi wrote...
Maybe the goal isn't worth reaching, if your hands get too dirty.

Who decides at which point it's "too dirty"?

Unfortunly your own greed which is why I hate human nature and even humanity itself

[Oransel]

Pottumuusi wrote...

Maybe the goal isn't worth reaching, if your hands get too dirty.

Ends justify the means. 

[Oransel]

Gen Petitt wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Pottumuusi wrote...
Maybe the goal isn't worth reaching, if your hands get too dirty.

Who decides at which point it's "too dirty"?

Unfortunly your own greed which is why I hate human nature and even humanity itself

Do you hate yourself for being human?

[Gen Petitt]

Oransel wrote...

Pottumuusi wrote...

Maybe the goal isn't worth reaching, if your hands get too dirty.

Ends justify the means. 

No they don't they never do and they never will when it is to feed your own greed

[sAxMoNkI]

Oransel wrote...

Pottumuusi wrote...

Maybe the goal isn't worth reaching, if your hands get too dirty.

Ends justify the means. 

Not if the means invalidate the end.
I need to preserve humanity, to do this I will effectively enslave and forcibly implant human civilians to fight against the one man who can save the galaxy.

Ermmm...no.

[Gen Petitt]

Oransel wrote...

Gen Petitt wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

Pottumuusi wrote...
Maybe the goal isn't worth reaching, if your hands get too dirty.

Who decides at which point it's "too dirty"?

Unfortunly your own greed which is why I hate human nature and even humanity itself

Do you hate yourself for being human?

For being apart of a race fueled by greed yes yes I do but then again other animals do it to but nether the less we humans are not greater than animals we are EQUALS and sould be treated as such

[huntsman2310]

Oransel wrote...

huntsman2310 wrote...

A BIG SCARY HUMAN SPACE MARINE STOMPS AROUND THE FIELD NOT CARING FOR COVER AT ALL WHEN SUDDENLY...

BOOM HEADSHOT.

Garrus: Gotcha'.

Jacob is better than Garrus. 

Oh?

You mean the guy that ditchs Femshep right after she's jailed for a random scientist to impregnate within 6 months of meeting?

How human.

And let's have a look at mah man Garrus's accomplishments.

1. Was only investigator working on a case against Saren.

2. Getting fired didn't stop him, he joins Shepard's crew and helps the galaxy.

3. Becomes 'Archangel', a vigilante operating in Omega who helps the common folk of the station against the hopelessly corrupt hierarchy.

4. In ME3, spends his time supporting Shepard and helping with the wounded wherever he can.

Case closed, ****.

Modifié par huntsman2310, 17 mai 2012 - 10:57 .

[Gen Petitt]

Oransel wrote...

huntsman2310 wrote...
A BIG SCARY HUMAN SPACE MARINE STOMPS AROUND THE FIELD NOT CARING FOR COVER AT ALL WHEN SUDDENLY...
BOOM HEADSHOT.
Garrus: Gotcha'.

Jacob is better than Garrus. 

HERESY BURN IT WITH FIRE!

[Someone With Mass]

sAxMoNkI wrote...

Not if the means invalidate the end.
I need to preserve humanity, to do this I will effectively enslave and forcibly implant human civilians to fight against the one man who can save the galaxy.

Ermmm...no.

I want to be independent from aliens, so that's why I'm going to conduct experiments and operations that are dependent on their technology.

[Oransel]

Gen Petitt wrote...

For being apart of a race fueled by greed yes yes I do but then again other animals do it to but nether the less we humans are not greater than animals we are EQUALS and sould be treated as such

I am sorry for you. You need some serious help. Your nihilistic, suicidal way of thinking is dangerous and petty.

Modifié par Oransel, 17 mai 2012 - 11:00 .

[Someone With Mass]

huntsman2310 wrote...

Oh?

You mean the guy that ditchs Femshep right after she's jailed for a random scientist to impregnate within 6 months of meeting?

How human.

And let's have a look at mah man Garrus's accomplishments.

1. Was only investigator working on a case against Saren.

2. Getting fired didn't stop him, he joins Shepard's crew and helps the galaxy.

3. Becomes 'Archangel', a vigilante operating in Omega who helps the common folk of the station against the hopelessly corrupt hierarchy.

4. In ME3, spends his time supporting Shepard and helping with the wounded wherever he can.

Case closed, ****.

And what did Jacob do?

Eh...hm...oh! He got that doctor knocked up. That'll help the war effort.

[RavenEyry]

Oransel wrote...

I am sorry for you. You need some serious help. Your nihilistic, suicidal way of thinking is dangerous and petty.

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *wipes away tear* I can think of one other person in this discussion who's way of thinking is dangerous and petty...

[sAxMoNkI]

RavenEyry wrote...

Oransel wrote...

I am sorry for you. You need some serious help. Your nihilistic, suicidal way of thinking is dangerous and petty.

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *wipes away tear* I can think of one other person in this discussion who's way of thinking is dangerous and petty...

Took the words clean out of my mouth. The level of hypocrisy is astounding. This has to clinch it, either this guy is a monumental troll, or a reaaaaallly stupid bigot who can't see the irony of what he just said.

EDIT: In fact with some tweaking...

Everyone else on the forum wrote wrote...

I am sorry for you Oransel. You need some serious help. Your xenophobic, narrow-minded way of thinking is dangerous and petty.

Perfect 

Modifié par sAxMoNkI, 17 mai 2012 - 11:06 .

[huntsman2310]

[/quote]

I am sorry for you. You need some serious help. Your nihilistic, suicidal way of thinking is dangerous and petty.

[/quote]

Are you real?

[Oransel]

RavenEyry wrote...

Oransel wrote...

I am sorry for you. You need some serious help. Your nihilistic, suicidal way of thinking is dangerous and petty.

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *wipes away tear* I can think of one other person in this discussion who's way of thinking is dangerous and petty...

You are implying me? In this case you are wrong. My way of thinking is not hostile at all, unlike horde of alien sympathisers. 

[Oransel]

[quote]huntsman2310 wrote...

[/quote]

I am sorry for you. You need some serious help. Your nihilistic, suicidal way of thinking is dangerous and petty.

[/quote]

Are you real?

[/quote]

Very much. I am as real as you are. 

[sAxMoNkI]

Oransel wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Oransel wrote...

I am sorry for you. You need some serious help. Your nihilistic, suicidal way of thinking is dangerous and petty.

HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *wipes away tear* I can think of one other person in this discussion who's way of thinking is dangerous and petty...

You are implying me? In this case you are wrong. My way of thinking is not hostile at all, unlike horde of alien sympathisers. 

So to make sure I've got this right your rebuttal here boils down to "I know you are but what am I?"

Outstanding, just...outstanding.

Modifié par sAxMoNkI, 17 mai 2012 - 11:15 .

[RavenEyry]

Oransel wrote...

You are implying me? In this case you are wrong. My way of thinking is not hostile at all, unlike horde of alien sympathisers. 

Being hostile to aliens isn't hostile?

[Oransel]

RavenEyry wrote...

Being hostile to aliens isn't hostile?

Of course it is not. Aliens are fictional and I am real, so being agressive towards me is hostile, while being anti-alien is ok.

[Pottumuusi]

RavenEyry wrote...

Oransel wrote...

You are implying me? In this case you are wrong. My way of thinking is not hostile at all, unlike horde of alien sympathisers. 

Being hostile to aliens isn't hostile?

We should just write this guy's name in the dictionary where it says 'hypocrisy' and be done with it.

[Pottumuusi]

Oransel wrote...

RavenEyry wrote...

Being hostile to aliens isn't hostile?

Of course it is not. Aliens are fictional and I am real, so being agressive towards me is hostile, while being anti-alien is ok.

Are you sure this line of reasoning is worth pursuing since the last time it lead to you condoning child rape?