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[D4rk50ul808]

Stardusk wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Just curious. I actually would have no problem with Infiltrators if they would all just say, yes, it is OP and I like being OP. Thank you.

I play pretty much all classes, including the Infiltrator.  If I'm playing in a serious match, I'll use something that will clear as quickly as possible, and Geth Infiltrator is one of those candidates.  So yes, I sometimes use it because it is one of the best options for the job.  I'm not sure why you seem offended by this notion. 

I am not offended. I just think people coming up with a million reasons (false ones) why Infiltrators are not OP is ridiculous. For example, one guy saying that a good player with a GI can make any class perform exactly the same. Total BS.

How about this.  I will prove it and when I do will you stop saying infiltrators are OP?  I never played them until I made up that Scorpion build because I snipe in all my other shooting games.  Name some classes and I'll post screenies in the next couple days in between D3 marathons.

[MissMinaethiel]

I use Infiltrators because I like being the medic and running objectives ^-^ shooting stuff is fun too, but I get a real rush out of being the team medic/runner.

[Joeybsmooth4]

I don't know what OP means . However I play this class since it has been my class since I first played Mass Effect. Unless you have a power sinper you will miss out on a lot of points, however many times you can save your team mates who have fallen . And I am all about the money money yeah yeah.

[COLZ7R]

Biggest weakness i can think of with the inf is they cant blow up a group of enemy themself in a couple of seconds, now if a class could do that.........

[curly haired boy]

i play infiltrator when i want to make heads pop in a bloody explosion.

that's really the appeal in a nutshell. GOTTA HAVE MY POPS.

[FreeshootXiggy]

Apparently we base being OP on scoreboards now. Because that ever mattered to anyone but competition nuts and elitists. Standing by my claim that this is a "cooperative game" not WoW or League of Legends.

[Stardusk]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Just curious. I actually would have no problem with Infiltrators if they would all just say, yes, it is OP and I like being OP. Thank you.

I play pretty much all classes, including the Infiltrator.  If I'm playing in a serious match, I'll use something that will clear as quickly as possible, and Geth Infiltrator is one of those candidates.  So yes, I sometimes use it because it is one of the best options for the job.  I'm not sure why you seem offended by this notion. 

I am not offended. I just think people coming up with a million reasons (false ones) why Infiltrators are not OP is ridiculous. For example, one guy saying that a good player with a GI can make any class perform exactly the same. Total BS.

How about this.  I will prove it and when I do will you stop saying infiltrators are OP?  I never played them until I made up that Scorpion build because I snipe in all my other shooting games.  Name some classes and I'll post screenies in the next couple days in between D3 marathons.

Make a QE perform exactly the same with a Claymore as a GI.

[GodlessPaladin]

Stardusk wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Just curious. I actually would have no problem with Infiltrators if they would all just say, yes, it is OP and I like being OP. Thank you.

I play pretty much all classes, including the Infiltrator.  If I'm playing in a serious match, I'll use something that will clear as quickly as possible, and Geth Infiltrator is one of those candidates.  So yes, I sometimes use it because it is one of the best options for the job.  I'm not sure why you seem offended by this notion. 

I am not offended. I just think people coming up with a million reasons (false ones) why Infiltrators are not OP is ridiculous. For example, one guy saying that a good player with a GI can make any class perform exactly the same. Total BS.

People claiming that all classes are perfectly balanced in pretty much any game as complex as ME3 are in denial, pure and simple.  Infiltrators are certainly amongst the better classes.  However, they're not alone at the top, and the top isn't as far removed from the bottom as some make it out to be.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 16 mai 2012 - 06:26 .

[D4rk50ul808]

For the record the highest score I ever put up was with a Droneless Human Engineer with a Phaeston so you might want to avoid choosing that class when telling me which classes I can't make perform as good or better than an Infiltrator.

Truth is every class has a place and time, some work better than others depending on the team composition. I think you believe you are the only one who enjoys QE, Krogans, etc. Like I said any class, any map, any enemy and I'll post a few screenshots or find someone who can record the matches. This isn't me being cocky, just tired of these threads every day =/

Stardusk wrote...

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Just
curious. I actually would have no problem with Infiltrators if they
would all just say, yes, it is OP and I like being OP. Thank you.

I
play pretty much all classes, including the Infiltrator.  If I'm
playing in a serious match, I'll use something that will clear as
quickly as possible, and Geth Infiltrator is one of those candidates. 
So yes, I sometimes use it because it is one of the best options for the
job.  I'm not sure why you seem offended by this notion. 

I
am not offended. I just think people coming up with a million reasons
(false ones) why Infiltrators are not OP is ridiculous. For example, one
guy saying that a good player with a GI can make any class perform
exactly the same. Total BS.

How about this. 
I will prove it and when I do will you stop saying infiltrators are OP? 
I never played them until I made up that Scorpion build because I snipe
in all my other shooting games.  Name some classes and I'll post
screenies in the next couple days in between D3 marathons.

Make a QE perform exactly the same with a Claymore as a GI.

You want me to use that weapon, or do you want me to make the class as effective as the infiltrator.  I thought this was a class was OP thread, not a "claymore is OP" thread.

Either way,

Challenge Accepted.

Modifié par D4rk50ul808, 16 mai 2012 - 06:17 .

[Skorpijon]

To answer the question: no. I play it to get from lvl 1 to lvl 20 to promote, i do that with all other classes as well so i dont see a pattern. Which class i enjoy? Infiltrators, Adepts and sentinel/engineer.

Also, you are always claiming that infiltrator is op. And no one will ever change your mind. No matter what the other side offers as an argument you will dismiss it and push with own "infiltrator is op" propaganda.
Dont you have anything else to do then making topics to engage ppl with same issues you have?

[Tybo]

Yes. I'm decent but not great, so when playing with randoms I tend to use infiltrator, especially if the team doesn't look to good, cause I can carry with Infiltrators but not other classes. Except for when playing on Ghost or Hydra, cause the Drell Adept is awesome there with double grenades from crates, or Krogan vanguard against Geth. When I'm playing with friends I rotate a lot more.

Although I will admit, shotgun infiltratoring is a lot of fun.

Modifié par tyhw, 16 mai 2012 - 06:16 .

[Stardusk]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

For the record the highest score I ever put up was with a Droneless Human Engineer with a Phaeston so you might want to avoid choosing that class when telling me which classes I can't make perform as good or better than an Infiltrator.

Truth is every class has a place and time, some work better than others depending on the team composition. I think you believe you are the only one who enjoys QE, Krogans, etc. Like I said any class, any map, any enemy and I'll post a few screenshots or find someone who can record the matches. This isn't me being cocky, just tired of these threads every day =/

Stardusk wrote...

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Just
curious. I actually would have no problem with Infiltrators if they
would all just say, yes, it is OP and I like being OP. Thank you.

I
play pretty much all classes, including the Infiltrator.  If I'm
playing in a serious match, I'll use something that will clear as
quickly as possible, and Geth Infiltrator is one of those candidates. 
So yes, I sometimes use it because it is one of the best options for the
job.  I'm not sure why you seem offended by this notion. 

I
am not offended. I just think people coming up with a million reasons
(false ones) why Infiltrators are not OP is ridiculous. For example, one
guy saying that a good player with a GI can make any class perform
exactly the same. Total BS.

How about this. 
I will prove it and when I do will you stop saying infiltrators are OP? 
I never played them until I made up that Scorpion build because I snipe
in all my other shooting games.  Name some classes and I'll post
screenies in the next couple days in between D3 marathons.

Make a QE perform exactly the same with a Claymore as a GI.

You want me to use that weapon, or do you want me to make the class as effective as the infiltrator.  I thought this was a class was OP thread, not a "claymore is OP" thread.

Either way,

Challenge Accepted.

If you can do that, then you are elite of the elite but that doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of Infiltrators running around will never be able to replicate their results with socalled '2nd tier' classes.

[Major Durza]

Stardusk wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

I've played mostly Infiltrators since ME 2, and would continue to do so regardless of how unbalanced the class might seem to some people.

Every class has it's strengths and weaknesses.

What weaknesses does the Infi have?

They take more time to take out groups of weaker enemies than most classes, and tae out the big baddies faster.  It is a glaring weakness.  Don't believe me, try playing Gold with 4 Geth Infiltrators.  Hack objective?  lol, WIPE!

[FreeshootXiggy]

Infiltrator: Tons of damage!!

[GodlessPaladin]

Major Durza wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

I've played mostly Infiltrators since ME 2, and would continue to do so regardless of how unbalanced the class might seem to some people.

Every class has it's strengths and weaknesses.

What weaknesses does the Infi have?

They take more time to take out groups of weaker enemies than most classes, and tae out the big baddies faster.  It is a glaring weakness.  Don't believe me, try playing Gold with 4 Geth Infiltrators.  Hack objective?  lol, WIPE!

4 geth infiltrators wiping on a hack objective are doing it wrong.

[AreleX]

why are you constantly making stupid, troll-baiting, thinly veiled self-congratulatory threads?

[astheoceansblue]

I use my claymore SI or claymore+scorpion Gi for fun every now and then, but they do feel too easy to play with.

And both of these classes can negate most or the weakness the person above listed.

My Si runs with no fitness and is probably my most durable build due to Power use TC evo and ED. Shield won't regenerate when cloak? ED = yes it will.

Claymore can hit things mid range with smart choke.
P.Mine can hit things long range.
Both powers can CC brilliantly.

And lackluster when firing out of Cloak? Not at all. Claymore still hurts while waiting for TC.

Gi gets no ED, but wallhack makes negating damage a breeze.

The builds I use, the classes are god mode. I rarely use them these days simply because there's little challenge.

And who wants to see another Infiltrator solo?

My friend uses Hi exclusively, I might start trying that with Cryoblast to debuff. I do miss Claymore sniping...

I can score just as high with other classes, but never as often or in any context like these two can. Good just feels like Silver with their skill sets.

Turian Soldier, Geth Engineer, Human Soldier, Quarian Engineer, Turian Sentinel... these classes are a challenge for me to perform as well with and when I'm challenged I'm having fun.

Modifié par astheoceansblue, 16 mai 2012 - 06:39 .

[KarmaTheAlligator]

Major Durza wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

I've played mostly Infiltrators since ME 2, and would continue to do so regardless of how unbalanced the class might seem to some people.

Every class has it's strengths and weaknesses.

What weaknesses does the Infi have?

They take more time to take out groups of weaker enemies than most classes, and tae out the big baddies faster.  It is a glaring weakness.  Don't believe me, try playing Gold with 4 Geth Infiltrators.  Hack objective?  lol, WIPE!

Depends on their weapons, I should think. With Valiants or Black Widows, even mobs of small fries should go down fast enough.

[OMG iTz R3PT4R]

I play the Ilfiltrator class because I've always love stealthy classes. If it wasn't brokenly overpowered, I'd still play it. 

[defleshing]

Stardusk wrote...

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Just curious. I actually would have no problem with Infiltrators if they would all just say, yes, it is OP and I like being OP. Thank you.

I play pretty much all classes, including the Infiltrator.  If I'm playing in a serious match, I'll use something that will clear as quickly as possible, and Geth Infiltrator is one of those candidates.  So yes, I sometimes use it because it is one of the best options for the job.  I'm not sure why you seem offended by this notion. 

I am not offended. I just think people coming up with a million reasons (false ones) why Infiltrators are not OP is ridiculous. For example, one guy saying that a good player with a GI can make any class perform exactly the same. Total BS.

How about this.  I will prove it and when I do will you stop saying infiltrators are OP?  I never played them until I made up that Scorpion build because I snipe in all my other shooting games.  Name some classes and I'll post screenies in the next couple days in between D3 marathons.

Make a QE perform exactly the same with a Claymore as a GI.

great now im going to have a se beating me every match lol. seriously tho dark can do it i have no dought . the d3 comment worries me tho patriot and i will have to hold down the random random gold lobbies i guess.

[OblivionDawn]

Be sure to ask the BE-centric classes if they play those classes because they know they're OP.

[Ashen One]

Stardusk wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

I've played mostly Infiltrators since ME 2, and would continue to do so regardless of how unbalanced the class might seem to some people.

Every class has it's strengths and weaknesses.

What weaknesses does the Infi have?

Geth Infiltrator - Weakest class in the game under sustained fire, and even more so if you're a CQC GI. One mistake, and you're probably dead. The Geth Infiltrators I've played with are terrible. God forbid you're the last guy left alive (because cloak doesn't work if you're the last one standing)

Human Infiltrator - Suffers from the shield gate mechanic, and is pretty much obsolete in comparision to the other infiltrators because they all have a way to get around it. (Or a better ability to compensate for the lack of a way to bypass the shield gate, in the case of the GI) For a class that emphasizes the use of sniper rifles, the HI skillset is awfully weak.

Salarian Infiltrator - I rarely play SI because it's just too easy. He's pretty much invincible vs Cerberus and Geth (assuming there are other team members alive to draw fire away from him), but not so much against Reapers. The Energy Drain/Headshot combo doesn't really do a whole lot of good against armor. I guess you could always use proximity mine instead, but without ED, the SI's survivability isn't nearly as high. The SI can dish out a lot of damage, but can't really take much damage.

Quarian Infiltrator - The QI used to be incredibly weak vs Reapers, and mediocre vs Cerberus but after the Backfire Sabotage buff, It's completely OP, and I expect it to be beaten to death with the nerf bat.

There are a few game breaking bugs associated with Tactical Cloak in general. Such as the "I'm cloaked, but not really" bug where you appear to be cloaked but you really aren't, and end up getting your ass shot off, then having to sit through the full cooldown of TC. People seem to think TC is a get out of sh*t free card, but honestly if you're getting shot at and you cloak, enemies will still shoot you anyway for the most part.

Also, why do you always complain about infiltrators? Why don't you complain about Adepts for once? You know, to mix things up?

[Soggy-Snake-]

Nope. They are simply my favourite play style. I like to have mobility and accessibility at all times.

[whalewhisker]

OblivionDawn wrote...

Be sure to ask the BE-centric classes if they play those classes because they know they're OP.

They are OP, but I play them because they're fun as hell.

[Seifer006]

this may sound stupid...

I don't know all the "acronyms" in BSN - but what is OP?

Normally I thought it meant "original post" but in this case, It means something else