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[OniGanon]

I play Infiltrator mostly because I've been playing Infiltrator since ME1.

[Topographer]

I play infiltrator if it helps the team - more than perhaps a biotic or something similar would. Yeah, it is OP, and I love it for that.

[Stardusk]

AreleX wrote...

why are you constantly making stupid, troll-baiting, thinly veiled self-congratulatory threads?

I'll stop making these threads when people stop claiming how great they are with Infiltrators and how they are not OP.

[Rite All Wrong]

Stardusk wrote...
I actually would have no problem with Infiltrators if they would all just say, yes, it is OP and I like being OP.

When I play infiltrator I'm fully aware that it's OP. Everyone likes to be OP from time to time. When I whip out the infiltrator it's often because the other three  people on my random game feel that need right now. It kinda sucks being the only guy on the team who doesn't have an instant aggro wipe (and huntard mode).

[Stardusk]

Rite All Wrong wrote...

Stardusk wrote...
I actually would have no problem with Infiltrators if they would all just say, yes, it is OP and I like being OP.

When I play infiltrator I'm fully aware that it's OP. Everyone likes to be OP from time to time. When I whip out the infiltrator it's often because the other three  people on my random game feel that need right now. It kinda sucks being the only guy on the team who doesn't have an instant aggro wipe (and huntard mode).

Honesty.

[OblivionDawn]

Stardusk wrote...

AreleX wrote...

why are you constantly making stupid, troll-baiting, thinly veiled self-congratulatory threads?

I'll stop making these threads when people stop claiming how great they are with Infiltrators and how they are not OP.

It's not going to happen. Most people don't care what you think.

You can continue making threads like this in spite of that, but in the end, you just make yourself look like an idiot.

[LadyAlekto]

I have the same damage output with hs then i can dish out with an hi and barely will go down before 9 (and only then when i got taken unware or didnt got my ass save during arush boost)

Its just that cloak is easier for evasion then having to move smart

[greghorvath]

COLZ7R wrote...

Same in any mp forum, some "expert" thinks everyone should play like they do, if someone outscores them it MUST be op so needs hit by the nerf bat, sad bit is a lot of devs actually listen to these fools and end up killing the game

Stardusk is pretty good, actually (check vids on youtube). Unfortunately, (based on his udual comments) he has an irritatingly condescending personality that is fuelled by his unquestionable (yes, I do mean this) skill. Too bad he has such a need for attention that instead of engaging in meaningful conversations he uses the BSN for flamebaiting.

[Stardusk]

OblivionDawn wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

AreleX wrote...

why are you constantly making stupid, troll-baiting, thinly veiled self-congratulatory threads?

I'll stop making these threads when people stop claiming how great they are with Infiltrators and how they are not OP.

It's not going to happen. Most people don't care what you think.

You can continue making threads like this in spite of that, but in the end, you just make yourself look like an idiot.

I am aware people don't care what I think, no one cares what anyone thinks generally, so that point is moot.

Infiltrators are not OP, right.

[Stardusk]

greghorvath wrote...

COLZ7R wrote...

Same in any mp forum, some "expert" thinks everyone should play like they do, if someone outscores them it MUST be op so needs hit by the nerf bat, sad bit is a lot of devs actually listen to these fools and end up killing the game

Stardusk is pretty good, actually (check vids on youtube). Unfortunately, (based on his udual comments) he has an irritatingly condescending personality that is fuelled by his unquestionable (yes, I do mean this) skill. Too bad he has such a need for attention that instead of engaging in meaningful conversations he uses the BSN for flamebaiting.

And at the end of the day, I have never said they should be nerfed.

It would not be bad to put classes on that level though, just don't know how anything can compete with TC.

[tzabaothg]

They should not be nerfed, Infiltrators are one of the best classes to carry 3 failures through Gold with.

Since Bioware seems to think funneling all the bottomfeeders into Gold every other weekend is a good thing they may as well leave Gold players some tools to get the job done with.

[GodlessPaladin]

Stardusk wrote...

greghorvath wrote...

COLZ7R wrote...

Same in any mp forum, some "expert" thinks everyone should play like they do, if someone outscores them it MUST be op so needs hit by the nerf bat, sad bit is a lot of devs actually listen to these fools and end up killing the game

Stardusk is pretty good, actually (check vids on youtube). Unfortunately, (based on his udual comments) he has an irritatingly condescending personality that is fuelled by his unquestionable (yes, I do mean this) skill. Too bad he has such a need for attention that instead of engaging in meaningful conversations he uses the BSN for flamebaiting.

And at the end of the day, I have never said they should be nerfed.

It would not be bad to put classes on that level though, just don't know how anything can compete with TC.

I can think of several ways you could go about bringing other classes up to the level of infiltrators.  In any case, I think that's actually a better route, because I feel the higher tier classes, in general, have a better gameplay flow.  And that some of the lower tier ones could use some improvement in that department, and giving room to buff means extra design room to accomplish that.

I'd reference my old game design musings thread but frankly it's rather obsolete and I could stand to update it with my current opinions.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 16 mai 2012 - 08:32 .

[Eckswhyzed]

Yes, I do play a powerful class.

It seems that people think that OP = overpowered = needs a nerf, so if you don't think Infiltrator needs a nerf you might want to make that clearer.


On topic, I play Infiltrators because I love fast-paced CQC. Geth Infiltrator especially, as you have to think fast or you're destroyed in seconds. That goes for similar classes such as Claymore Soldier, Human Vanguard etc.

[Stardusk]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

greghorvath wrote...

COLZ7R wrote...

Same in any mp forum, some "expert" thinks everyone should play like they do, if someone outscores them it MUST be op so needs hit by the nerf bat, sad bit is a lot of devs actually listen to these fools and end up killing the game

Stardusk is pretty good, actually (check vids on youtube). Unfortunately, (based on his udual comments) he has an irritatingly condescending personality that is fuelled by his unquestionable (yes, I do mean this) skill. Too bad he has such a need for attention that instead of engaging in meaningful conversations he uses the BSN for flamebaiting.

And at the end of the day, I have never said they should be nerfed.

It would not be bad to put classes on that level though, just don't know how anything can compete with TC.

I can think of several ways you could go about bringing other classes up to the level of infiltrators.  In any case, I think that's actually a better route, because I feel the higher tier classes, in general, have a better gameplay flow.  And that some of the lower tier ones could use some improvement in that department, and giving room to buff means extra design room to accomplish that.

For example QE's Turret should be a useful and primary power, yet the best builds forego it completely. It needs to be A LOT better, if it does not heal increase its damage onehundredfold as well as its durability.

[ValorOfArms777]

every clas has it's ups and downs

Inf has this too they can be spotted certain vicinity of foes if they fire they are defiantly spotted you must recharge shield w/o cloak and none of them have "crowd" control powers as much as other classes their powers are limited to tech side thus they can't pull off combos as easily as biotic users

they have less shield and health than other classes somewhat and second.. isn't this game built on co-op not competition shouldn't you just accept all the classes have a OP moment to them? or have you been playing bronze too long to realise harder difficulties shield gates are way bigger?

[Stardusk]

ValorOfArms777 wrote...

every clas has it's ups and downs

Inf has this too they can be spotted certain vicinity of foes if they fire they are defiantly spotted you must recharge shield w/o cloak and none of them have "crowd" control powers as much as other classes their powers are limited to tech side thus they can't pull off combos as easily as biotic users

they have less shield and health than other classes somewhat and second.. isn't this game built on co-op not competition shouldn't you just accept all the classes have a OP moment to them? or have you been playing bronze too long to realise harder difficulties shield gates are way bigger?

Yes, I only play Bronze.

[Ziegrif]

I do use infiltrators 90% of the time in gold due to their unmatched offensive potential (claymores man love em). So yes I won't lie I use them for the overpower. I haven't learned to use any other classes in gold yet currently trying to see if I can use soldiers there with the Vindicator.

[whalewhisker]

I can't believe people won't admit that infiltrators are OP. They have an AMAZING power. And because of that power they are able to forgo weight unlike most of the other classes and still deal ridiculous damage.

[OblivionDawn]

Stardusk wrote...

OblivionDawn wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

AreleX wrote...

why are you constantly making stupid, troll-baiting, thinly veiled self-congratulatory threads?

I'll stop making these threads when people stop claiming how great they are with Infiltrators and how they are not OP.

It's not going to happen. Most people don't care what you think.

You can continue making threads like this in spite of that, but in the end, you just make yourself look like an idiot.

I am aware people don't care what I think, no one cares what anyone thinks generally, so that point is moot.

Infiltrators are not OP, right.

Infiltrators become OP if people have the skill to utilize them. That's why people brag about how good they are with them. You need to have some aiming prowess to aim a sniper rifle, or some situational awareness to run around with a Claymore.

Any class that uses Biotic Explosions is just as OP, with significantly less skill required. There's hardly anything impressive about sitting behind cover and alternating between two buttons for the entirety of the match, especially when your powers home in on the target. That's why you don't see that many people claiming how awesome they are with Asari Adepts.

So yeah, people aren't going to stop bragging about how good they are with Infiltrators, nor should they.

They just happen to be one of the few classes that can kill effectively with powers AND weapons, when every class should be able to do that to some extent.

Modifié par OblivionDawn, 16 mai 2012 - 08:42 .

[molecularman]

Infiltrators are OP and anybody pretending otherwise is a liar.

I don't use them often because they are boring.

[Kronner]

OblivionDawn wrote...

Infiltrators become OP if people have the skill to utilize them. That's why people brag about how good they are with them. You need to have some aiming prowess to aim a sniper rifle, or some situational awareness to run around with a Claymore.

Any class that uses Biotic Explosions is just as OP, with significantly less skill required. There's hardly anything impressive about sitting behind cover and alternating between two buttons for the entirety of the match, especially when your powers home in on the target. That's why you don't see that many people claiming how awesome they are with Asari Adepts.

So yeah, people aren't going to stop bragging about how good they are with Infiltrators, nor should they.

They just happen to be one of the few classes that can kill effectively with powers AND weapons, when every class should be able to do that to some extent.

100% agreed with this post.

Modifié par Kronner, 16 mai 2012 - 08:47 .

[Stardusk]

Kronner wrote...

OblivionDawn wrote...

Infiltrators become OP if people have the skill to utilize them. That's why people brag about how good they are with them. You need to have some aiming prowess to aim a sniper rifle, or some situational awareness to run around with a Claymore.

Any class that uses Biotic Explosions is just as OP, with significantly less skill required. There's hardly anything impressive about sitting behind cover and alternating between two buttons for the entirety of the match, especially when your powers home in on the target. That's why you don't see that many people claiming how awesome they are with Asari Adepts.

So yeah, people aren't going to stop bragging about how good they are with Infiltrators, nor should they.

They just happen to be one of the few classes that can kill effectively with powers AND weapons, when every class should be able to do that to some extent.

100% agreed with this post.

You're one of those Infis Kronner! Lord of the Claymore!

[Archontor]

I have a Striker assault riffle mark 3 and a Graal. That's all the OP I need, regardless of class.

[A Wild Snorlax]

If i play alone with randoms I'll use the infiltrator more than other classes beause it's the easiest class to carry the team with, so to answer your question, yes I guess.

I do believe it's time for you to stop making 100  topics crying about infiltrators though. OP as they may be at least it takes some aiming skill to be profficient with them, unlike some other powerful classes that are in the game *looks at biotics*. And they are fun to use every now and then, makes you feel like a one man army of destruction when you're armed with a claymore and you take down an atlas by yourself in less than 10 seconds.

I don't see the problem with them at all. It's a great class but I can only play it so much before I get bored and have to use something else. As for other people using it I it's not THAT dominant in terms of people using it(less than 20%) and besides they can use whatever they want for all I care, I have no idea why you're so obsessed with them or have such a huge problem with people using them.

Also if it's so OP and easy mode how come 90% of people using it do terrible? Other than people I play with from this forum most infiltators I run into suck it up 9/10 times.

I wouldn't mind if some of the less used classes got buffed so they were more competitive though. 

Modifié par A Wild Snorlax, 16 mai 2012 - 09:12 .

[kww75]

I admit nothing but its a fun class to play, and I shall leave it at that