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[M0keys]

Just curious... If I was secretly a victim of.. something beyond my control...

That's what I'd say.

Have they ever said anything like this before?

[Icinix]

Yep. Mike Gamble a few days after release, said something along the lines of..."..if you knew what we had in store, you'd keep your games forever."

[M0keys]

Icinix wrote...

Yep. Mike Gamble a few days after release, said something along the lines of..."..if you knew what we had in store, you'd keep your games forever."

That's not necessarily a cry for trust in a desperate situation though, is it?

...Is it?

Modifié par M0keys, 16 mai 2012 - 06:45 .

[Icinix]

M0keys wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Yep. Mike Gamble a few days after release, said something along the lines of..."..if you knew what we had in store, you'd keep your games forever."

That's not necessarily a cry for trust in a desperate situation though, is it?

...Is it?

http://twitter.com/#...942797880541185 

Make your own call on it.

I wouldn't say they've ever been on their hands and knees begging, but I would never expect them to do that either.

[M0keys]

No, I don't..necessarily mean on their knees. You know, a reaction from someone who you might expect is getting abused when you aren't looking. They say everything's fine, but the look in their eyes says otherwise..

Call me crazy. I'm just looking for a reason to actually believe in them.

[Icinix]

No, definitely don't think they've had that. More like they've had a look in their eyes that says they have an ace up their sleeve, so we can burn our bridges if we want, but that will only hurt us more than them.

[Dont Kaidan Me]

I'm not sure they could make such a remark with sincerity. If you read all of the things the marketing director said prior to release...

http://www.computera...ut-selling-out/

ETA: Although Bioware's marketing director is most likely taking queues from the EA execs. The writers are probably just as frustrated.

Modifié par Dont Kaidan Me, 16 mai 2012 - 06:52 .

[M0keys]

Icinix wrote...

No, definitely don't think they've had that. More like they've had a look in their eyes that says they have an ace up their sleeve, so we can burn our bridges if we want, but that will only hurt us more than them.

But at that point they go from being victims to total madmen, and that nullifies my reason to trust them

[FatalX7.0]

Nope, they have not apologized and/or showed any sign that we can trust or believe in them.

They're being silent, but when they do say something, they're being hypocritical, contradicting and condescending.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 16 mai 2012 - 06:58 .

[KotorEffect3]

If anyone has been playing the victim it has been the fanbase

[delphonic]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

If anyone has been playing the victim it has been KotorEffect3

I kid I kid

... sort of

Modifié par delphonic, 16 mai 2012 - 07:07 .

[ShepnTali]

Bioware was seduced by the dark side of the force. More machine now, than man.

Or...


They have the blackest eyes.. the devil's eyes.

[Sohlito]

I don't think they will. They should to some degree, as that is just good business sense and would show they still value consumer trust/satisfaction.

KotorEffect3 wrote...

If anyone has been playing the victim it has been the fanbase

You've been crying just as much lately, someone victimize you?

Modifié par Sohlito, 16 mai 2012 - 07:13 .

[shadowreflexion]

ShepnTali wrote...

Bioware was seduced by the dark side of the force. More machine now, than man.

Or...


They have the blackest eyes.. the devil's eyes.

I hope that was taken from the original Halloween with the late great Donald Pleasence...

[ShepnTali]

shadowreflexion wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Bioware was seduced by the dark side of the force. More machine now, than man.

Or...


They have the blackest eyes.. the devil's eyes.

I hope that was taken from the original Halloween with the late great Donald Pleasence...

'78 all the way!

[KotorEffect3]

Sohlito wrote...

I don't think they will. They should to some degree, as that is just good business sense and would show they still value consumer trust/satisfaction.

KotorEffect3 wrote...

If anyone has been playing the victim it has been the fanbase

You've been crying just as much lately, someone victimize you?

All I did was make an observation.  The fact that you took it as more than that must mean I hit a sore spot

[Wabajakka]

To be honest... that's all it would take. I would be able to wait patiently and maybe actually go through this game on SP more than once.

[M0keys]

same here

[darkchief10]

...ok, i'll just go back to playing max payne 3 then.

[M0keys]

darkchief10 wrote...

...ok, i'll just go back to playing max payne 3 then.

huh?

did you.. post in the wrong topic?

[devSin]

They're not victims. What are you even talking about? You think EA made them put out a bad ending, and now they're secretly unshackled and can make the ending they want?

This is the ending they want. Whether two people created it or the whole team created it, it's what they planned for and it's what they wanted. That it sucks just means they're not as good as they thought they were (and with how much it sucks, they must actually be worse by quite a large amount).

You can trust them if you want. There's a chance they'll be able to deliver something palatable, as long as they are willing. But you trusted them before, and look what they gave you.

Don't trust. Wait and see. That would be my advice.

[Sohlito]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Sohlito wrote...

I don't think they will. They should to some degree, as that is just good business sense and would show they still value consumer trust/satisfaction.

KotorEffect3 wrote...

If anyone has been playing the victim it has been the fanbase

You've been crying just as much lately, someone victimize you?

All I did was make an observation.  The fact that you took it as more than that must mean I hit a sore spot

Actually no, I'm cool buddy. See, I made a factual observation. You, literally have post after post in thread after thread doing exactly what you're supposedly rallying against.

The pot can only call the kettle black for so long. Just chill a bit. Sip on some Kool-aid or something.

[M0keys]

devSin wrote...

They're not victims. What are you even talking about? You think EA made them put out a bad ending, and now they're secretly unshackled and can make the ending they want?

I'm trying to find evidence that this is the case, yes. So far, I haven't found anything.

[Miphious]

Nothing even close. Most of what I've seen has been making fun of the fans who dislike the ending - Twitter feeds from Bioware staff are full of condescending statements.

I like to think it's nervous bullying - you know you screwed up so you take out your frustrations on those who can't fight back - but they'd never admit they were in the wrong or that the majority hate them. In their minds this backlash is amazingly good; they are using it to advertise the game! And those who dislike the ending are merely a vocal minority. 

Heaven help them when the EC leaves this same vocal minority feeling spit on and they rage against Bioware harder. EA will cut off a weak link. 

Modifié par Miphious, 16 mai 2012 - 07:57 .

[kookie28]

This would require Mac Walters taking off his hipster hat.

So no.