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[ReXspec]

squee365 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Yep. Mike Gamble a few days after release, said something along the lines of..."..if you knew what we had in store, you'd keep your games forever."

You know he was referring to multiplayer DLC in that tweet right?

-sigh- Speculation.

[nitefyre410]

LOLWUT... Bioware wants trust... lol..

Once trust is lost it has to be earned.... doing something to earn it and maybe they might get that trust back or maybe not. That is something for the customers to decide in the end.

[wantedman dan]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I didn't cry until I got a new ending.

And expressing disdain in a product that I paid my money for, which did not deliver on the expectations that the very company producing it set, is crying?

Yeah, that's just one big ball of sense-making there.

[KotorEffect3]

wantedman dan wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I didn't cry until I got a new ending.

And expressing disdain in a product that I paid my money for, which did not deliver on the expectations that the very company producing it set, is crying?

Yeah, that's just one big ball of sense-making there.

Paying money for something doesn't excuse an overinflated sense of entitlement and the rude overall manner in which your movement has treated bioware.  I know they are doing it for free but they really should charge you for the EC.

And no the customer is not always right

Modifié par KotorEffect3, 16 mai 2012 - 09:21 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Yep. Mike Gamble a few days after release, said something along the lines of..."..if you knew what we had in store, you'd keep your games forever."

Yeah, that Retake Omega DLC will stay with us forever.

Well considering that the retake movement forced them to stall all of their other DLC don't complain because they had to put it on hold to make your EC.

Sarcasm. Quit being such a baby.

I didn't cry until I got a new ending.

It isn't a new ending, it is additional clarity and closure, now go away.

[wantedman dan]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Paying money for something doesn't excuse an overinflated sense of entitlement and the rude overall manner in which your movement has treated bioware.  I know they are doing it for free but they really should charge you for the EC.

My "movement."

Your assumptions are as adorable as your arguments are vague. If you're so upset about the EC, don't download it--that's the end of your story.

If a product is broken, it is a right of the consumer to demand that it be fixed. This is one of the few occasions in which ad populum logic is acceptable; if enough people say it's broken, something's wrong.

KotorEffect3 wrote...

And no the customer is not always right

In this instance, the customer is right. 

Modifié par wantedman dan, 16 mai 2012 - 09:24 .

[KotorEffect3]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Yep. Mike Gamble a few days after release, said something along the lines of..."..if you knew what we had in store, you'd keep your games forever."

Yeah, that Retake Omega DLC will stay with us forever.

Well considering that the retake movement forced them to stall all of their other DLC don't complain because they had to put it on hold to make your EC.

Sarcasm. Quit being such a baby.

I didn't cry until I got a new ending.

It isn't a new ending, it is additional clarity and closure, now go away.

No I won't go away

[ReXspec]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I didn't cry until I got a new ending.

And expressing disdain in a product that I paid my money for, which did not deliver on the expectations that the very company producing it set, is crying?

Yeah, that's just one big ball of sense-making there.

Paying money for something doesn't excuse an overinflated sense of entitlement and the rude overall manner in which your movement has treated bioware.  I know they are doing it for free but they really should charge you for the EC.

And no the customer is not always right

Every customer has a right to complain--especially about products that were falsely advertised.  And let's not forget that little gem where EA/Bioware used the controversey to advertise their product.  That isn't the fans being overinflated or entitled, that is the company being @ssh@ts.

Modifié par ReXspec, 16 mai 2012 - 09:27 .

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

wantedman dan wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Paying money for something doesn't excuse an overinflated sense of entitlement and the rude overall manner in which your movement has treated bioware.  I know they are doing it for free but they really should charge you for the EC.

My "movement."

Your assumptions are as adorable as your arguments are vague. If you're so upset about the EC, don't download it--that's the end of your story.

If a product is broken, it is a right of the consumer to demand that it be fixed. This is one of the few occasions in which ad populum logic is acceptable; if enough people say it's broken, something's wrong.

KotorEffect3 wrote...

And no the customer is not always right

In this instance, the customer is right. 

It's quite clear he is trolling...

[KotorEffect3]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Paying money for something doesn't excuse an overinflated sense of entitlement and the rude overall manner in which your movement has treated bioware.  I know they are doing it for free but they really should charge you for the EC.

My "movement."

Your assumptions are as adorable as your arguments are vague. If you're so upset about the EC, don't download it--that's the end of your story.

If a product is broken, it is a right of the consumer to demand that it be fixed. This is one of the few occasions in which ad populum logic is acceptable; if enough people say it's broken, something's wrong.

KotorEffect3 wrote...

And no the customer is not always right

In this instance, the customer is right. 

It's quite clear he is trolling...

lol that is always the story here isn't it?  "I don't like what he has to say he will not conform to majority opinon, therefore he must be trolling."  Besides weren't you buddies with much of the CDF from before?

[Humanoid_Typhoon]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Paying money for something doesn't excuse an overinflated sense of entitlement and the rude overall manner in which your movement has treated bioware.  I know they are doing it for free but they really should charge you for the EC.

My "movement."

Your assumptions are as adorable as your arguments are vague. If you're so upset about the EC, don't download it--that's the end of your story.

If a product is broken, it is a right of the consumer to demand that it be fixed. This is one of the few occasions in which ad populum logic is acceptable; if enough people say it's broken, something's wrong.

KotorEffect3 wrote...

And no the customer is not always right

In this instance, the customer is right. 

It's quite clear he is trolling...

lol that is always the story here isn't it?  "I don't like what he has to say he will not conform to majority opinon, therefore he must be trolling."  Besides weren't you buddies with much of the CDF from before?

You've yet to come up with an intelligent response to anything being said to you or to support anyting you yourself are saying, if your response to everything is "Hur durr ME3 ending was deh Bawmb" it is very easy to assume you are trolling.

[liggy002]

Iwillbeback wrote...

Shepard is Indoctrinated.
Bioware is making the DLC to go with and it was their plan all along.

All the evidence is there in file names and in game.

Damn man, you had better be right or this EC is going to seriously suck!

[ReXspec]

liggy002 wrote...

Iwillbeback wrote...

Shepard is Indoctrinated.
Bioware is making the DLC to go with and it was their plan all along.

All the evidence is there in file names and in game.

Damn man, you had better be right or this EC is going to seriously suck!

I'd much rather hope for a total retconn, but the IT is the next best thing, sadly.

[KotorEffect3]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Paying money for something doesn't excuse an overinflated sense of entitlement and the rude overall manner in which your movement has treated bioware.  I know they are doing it for free but they really should charge you for the EC.

My "movement."

Your assumptions are as adorable as your arguments are vague. If you're so upset about the EC, don't download it--that's the end of your story.

If a product is broken, it is a right of the consumer to demand that it be fixed. This is one of the few occasions in which ad populum logic is acceptable; if enough people say it's broken, something's wrong.

KotorEffect3 wrote...

And no the customer is not always right

In this instance, the customer is right. 

It's quite clear he is trolling...

lol that is always the story here isn't it?  "I don't like what he has to say he will not conform to majority opinon, therefore he must be trolling."  Besides weren't you buddies with much of the CDF from before?

You've yet to come up with an intelligent response to anything being said to you or to support anyting you yourself are saying, if your response to everything is "Hur durr ME3 ending was deh Bawmb" it is very easy to assume you are trolling.

Funny because I have never actualy said anything to that effect so you can take your slander and stick it and now you have hijacked the threads to make personal attacks on me so stop trolling.  If you have a beef with me you can always PM me.

[ReXspec]

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Humanoid_Typhoon wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Paying money for something doesn't excuse an overinflated sense of entitlement and the rude overall manner in which your movement has treated bioware.  I know they are doing it for free but they really should charge you for the EC.

My "movement."

Your assumptions are as adorable as your arguments are vague. If you're so upset about the EC, don't download it--that's the end of your story.

If a product is broken, it is a right of the consumer to demand that it be fixed. This is one of the few occasions in which ad populum logic is acceptable; if enough people say it's broken, something's wrong.

KotorEffect3 wrote...

And no the customer is not always right

In this instance, the customer is right. 

It's quite clear he is trolling...

lol that is always the story here isn't it?  "I don't like what he has to say he will not conform to majority opinon, therefore he must be trolling."  Besides weren't you buddies with much of the CDF from before?

You've yet to come up with an intelligent response to anything being said to you or to support anyting you yourself are saying, if your response to everything is "Hur durr ME3 ending was deh Bawmb" it is very easy to assume you are trolling.

Nonsensical, circular arguments is usually a strong indicator of complete ignorance on a subject, or trolling.

example: 

Person 1:  "Your argument is wrong, and here is why..." -presents evidence of logical fallacies of the opposite parties viewpoint or conjecture-

Person 2:  "Well, your argument is wrong, because...your wrong!"

Person 1:  "Why?"

Person 2:  "Because your wrong!"

That is what a troll/retard conversation will devolve into 99% of the time.

Modifié par ReXspec, 16 mai 2012 - 09:44 .

[spiriticon]

A BioWare product is only broken if the disc literally doesn't work in your drive. Then you have consumers rights to demand them to mail you a new disc.

The ending isn't something that can be considered 'broken' because many people didn't like it. I don't think a lot of people understand this.

[KotorEffect3]

spiriticon wrote...

A BioWare product is only broken if the disc literally doesn't work in your drive. Then you have consumers rights to demand them to mail you a new disc.

The ending isn't something that can be considered 'broken' because many people didn't like it. I don't think a lot of people understand this.

+1

[AntonioA9011]

ShepnTali wrote...

shadowreflexion wrote...

ShepnTali wrote...

Bioware was seduced by the dark side of the force. More machine now, than man.

Or...


They have the blackest eyes.. the devil's eyes.

I hope that was taken from the original Halloween with the late great Donald Pleasence...

'78 all the way!

Very much this.

I doubt Casey Hudson or Mac Walters will ever show their faces again or say anything again regarding ME3. They're probably somewhere in Costa Rica sniffing coke off of a model's back with your $50 bill whilst "Crying Over You" by Soave' is playing in the background and the model has an "N7" tramp stamp. She is plastered out of her gourd and doesn't even know what time it is, yet she's giggling at everything Casey and Mac are saying, she's just beside herself with ecstacy. Mac tells her to be still while he takes a line off of her shoulder blade.  After taking a the line of coke, Mac hums the Axel Foley theme to "Beverly Hills Cop". Casey soon jumps in, attempting to tell Mac that he's doing the drum kit in the beginning of the song all wrong.
The biggest worry they have right now is if the Conti Grand Cru will last the rest of the evening.

Modifié par AntonioA9011, 16 mai 2012 - 09:53 .

[Lyrebon]

kookie28 wrote...

This would require Mac Walters taking off his hipster hat.

So no.

That guy makes us flatcap wearing Yorkshiremen look silly.

[ReXspec]

spiriticon wrote...

A BioWare product is only broken if the disc literally doesn't work in your drive. Then you have consumers rights to demand them to mail you a new disc.

The ending isn't something that can be considered 'broken' because many people didn't like it. I don't think a lot of people understand this.

Semi-relevant if Bioware didn't go out of their way to advertise certain key elements of the franchise that were not followed in the last ten minutes of the game.

[Lyrebon]

spiriticon wrote...

A BioWare product is only broken if the disc literally doesn't work in your drive. Then you have consumers rights to demand them to mail you a new disc.

The ending isn't something that can be considered 'broken' because many people didn't like it. I don't think a lot of people understand this.

Logic standing on its head is broken to me. When the cuckoo bird starts quacking it's broken.

[wantedman dan]

spiriticon wrote...

A BioWare product is only broken if the disc literally doesn't work in your drive. Then you have consumers rights to demand them to mail you a new disc.

The ending isn't something that can be considered 'broken' because many people didn't like it. I don't think a lot of people understand this.

Broken: found here

1: violently separated into parts : shattered

2: damaged or altered by breaking: asa : having undergone or been subjected to fracture <abroken leg>b of land surfaces : being irregular, interrupted, or full of obstacles

3: violated by transgression <a broken promise>

Where does that say anything about being strictly limited to the physical condition?

Modifié par wantedman dan, 16 mai 2012 - 09:51 .

[Galifreya]

IanPolaris wrote...

M0keys wrote...

Just curious... If I was secretly a victim of.. something beyond my control...

That's what I'd say.

Have they ever said anything like this before?

Yes, it's happened before but not with Mass Effect.  Essentially when some of the writers and devs (like Laidlaw and DG) came out of their extended silence several months after DA2 was launched and tanked so quickly, they said something rather like this (albeit in not quite so stark of language) but that was something like 3-4 months later and it related to 'promising' to fix what was wrong with the DLC (specifically Legacy at the time).  Even then, there were stubbornly unapologetic about some of the biggest story-telling and plot related failings of DA2 so I don't expect much from them this time either.  Mass Effect 3 was Bioware's chance to prove that DA2 was an unfortunate abberation.  Unfortunately......


-Polaris

Eh...I'd just like to point out that all of the "creative" people (the writers) that worked on DA2 had no hand in creating ME3. Thank the gods. x.x

Modifié par Gallifreya, 16 mai 2012 - 09:52 .

[spiriticon]

ReXspec wrote...

spiriticon wrote...

A BioWare product is only broken if the disc literally doesn't work in your drive. Then you have consumers rights to demand them to mail you a new disc.

The ending isn't something that can be considered 'broken' because many people didn't like it. I don't think a lot of people understand this.

Semi-relevant if Bioware didn't go out of their way to advertise certain key elements of the franchise that were not followed in the last ten minutes of the game.

IBut it was followed in the rest of the game. The last 10 minutes does not represent all of Mass Effect 3.

[ReXspec]

Lyrebon wrote...

spiriticon wrote...

A BioWare product is only broken if the disc literally doesn't work in your drive. Then you have consumers rights to demand them to mail you a new disc.

The ending isn't something that can be considered 'broken' because many people didn't like it. I don't think a lot of people understand this.

Logic standing on its head is broken to me. When the cuckoo bird starts quacking it's broken.

that's quite a profound analogy, actually. lol