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Has Bioware ever said, "We know you hate us right now, but please, please trust us?"


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ArkkAngel007

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ReXspec wrote...

feliciano2040 wrote...

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Nope, they have not apologized and/or showed any sign that we can trust or believe in them.

They're being silent, but when they do say something, they're being hypocritical, contradicting and condescending.


*Sees accusatory post*

I wonder just why exactly does Bioware keep the silence ?


It is accusatory and un-tactful, but it is the cold hard truth.  There are better ways of dealing with the aforementioned issues, but it takes both the consumer and the publisher to step forward and start exchanging problems/successes with a game series without starting a fight.

Otherwise, you will alienate the fan base, and the publisher will react by being silent--thus creating a spiral of sorts:  The more alienated fans become vocal, the more the publisher will clam-up.


Yes, but there haven't been any great strides on the fans part in defusing the situation.  It's all "Rage Rage Gimme Gimme Rage Rage".  Look on the thread pages on this discussion board, and it's either IT/anti-IT discussions, or people setting up BioWare insult threads over the smallest things.  

There should be better communication on BioWare's part, and it would have prevented a lot of problems from the beginning, but this is their game they spent countless hours and resources on for us.  So they slipped up.  We need to be there to help them help us.  And that won't happen so long as we keep being little ****heads, both to them and to each other.

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wantedman dan wrote...

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Not really it's not like the ending somehow retroactively went back in time and made you enjoy the rest of the game and series less while you were playing it.  Now if you want to argue that going forward you can't play it because of the ending than that is another matter.


Yes, really. It is exactly how the ending has impacted me; why would I still consider something--remember something as--fun if it's not worthwhile?


I think that has more to do with you and how you remember things than anything the game did at the time


How I remember things? Do you even know what you're saying anymore?


He's a troll - I figured that out too late when I thought he was just being obnoxious.

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KotorEffect3

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Lyrebon wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

wantedman dan wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Not really it's not like the ending somehow retroactively went back in time and made you enjoy the rest of the game and series less while you were playing it.  Now if you want to argue that going forward you can't play it because of the ending than that is another matter.


Yes, really. It is exactly how the ending has impacted me; why would I still consider something--remember something as--fun if it's not worthwhile?


I think that has more to do with you and how you remember things than anything the game did at the time


How I remember things? Do you even know what you're saying anymore?


He's a troll - I figured that out too late when I thought he was just being obnoxious.


I moved on even made a thread suggesting a dlc, you are still ****ing about me.  Sounds like you are the troll.

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ReXspec wrote...

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Nothing even close. Most of what I've seen has been making fun of the fans who dislike the ending - Twitter feeds from Bioware staff are full of condescending statements.


Please prove that or at least draw up a list of all the statements you consider condescending.


All of them? Good god, do you think I just keep relevant Twitter links laying around? I'm not mining their twitter feed to 'prove' something that you could easily look through and find yourself. 

There was one posting an article that gave a glowing review of Mass Effect saying "Finally, someone GETS IT" as if we're all too stupid to 'get it' because we didn't like it. 

And there's been a good deal of mocking being done about how the fans demanded another ending with the ME account and some staff accounts demanding new endings to movies and even one demanding a new ending to the Bible, I believe. One wanted to know where to send the cupcakes because he didn't like the ending of 21 Jump Street but thought the rest of the movie was great. 

Much mocking and condescencion to the fans who didn't like their 'artistic integrity'. 

Here's one for you. twitter.com/#!/BioEvilChris/status/188978725637992448


Too bad the New Testament actually gave long and thorough explanations as to what happened to Christ's Apostles and even his mother.  A good try at looking educated though--and very effective means at alienating ME's fan-base further, Mr.  Priestly.

Man-up for your bosses mistakes, stop delivering condesending statements, and start giving us that "active conversation" between the fans and the staff that you promised.  Enough with this silence.


this +80,000 times this.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

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I don't think they will. They should to some degree, as that is just good business sense and would show they still value consumer trust/satisfaction.

KotorEffect3 wrote...

If anyone has been playing the victim it has been the fanbase


You've been crying just as much lately, someone victimize you?




All I did was make an observation.  The fact that you took it as more than that must mean I hit a sore spot


To be honest, buying Mass Effect 3 and expecting it to be good was an act of stupidity. After all, Dragon Age 2 was vastly inferior to it's predecessor and it was made wholly in the time when EA has got it's grubby mits all over Bioware.

ME3 being a fulfilling role playing game like it[s forerunners was never going to happen and thus the fans have themselves to blame for buying into the deliberately false advertising from the developers.

Although, now that I've come to this conclusion, I'm curious to see how much Dragon age 3 will suck compared  to it's predecessors.

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Although, now that I've come to this conclusion, I'm curious to see how much Dragon age 3 will suck compared  to it's predecessors.


It may not come out at all.  Last I heard, not only did Bioware cut off all future DA2 DLC and the expected DA2 expansion which was supposed to end Hawke's story, but I've heard just recently that the entire DA3 project has been suspended while the team has been assigned to help with KOTR or some such.

-Polaris

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FatalX7.0 wrote...

Nope, they have not apologized and/or showed any sign that we can trust or believe in them.

They're being silent, but when they do say something, they're being hypocritical, contradicting and condescending.


And, ladies and gentlemen, it's posts like these which mean they are not saying anything.  Damned if they do, damned if they don't.