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[owenbeast]

great job on the buffs you made me a very happy mass effect player

[Gornok]

a mere seven points of damage for the eagle?

Let me try it out on silver first before I judge it.

[Influ]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Eagle got buffed 10%...

More, actually. The damage values for it was 42.4-53.1 previously, instead of the ones listed in the balance changes. Still don't know how useful it'll be now, especially being low level.

[Nissun]

Merkit91 wrote...

Crusader I now doing more damage then Saber X, lol.

Really?

I think I'm starting to appreciate my Crusader...

[SinerAthin]

LOVE IT!

LOVE IT!

Especially the Hurricane buff!

*Hopes for more Automatic Weapon buffs!*

[astheoceansblue]

ExOriginz wrote...

hurricane buffed ... a SMG doing more damage than a LMG ... so stupid

It is a commendation weapon, though, so it should be special...

...but then try saying that to poor Eagle...

[vivanto]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Bobkyou wrote...
- 255 max cap on ammo, medigel, rockets, shields - they should grant equipment items instead if maxed

Oh my god no.  I'm never going to see someone use a rocket or medigel in multiplayer again. 

Yeah, pretty disappointing changes.

I've a feeling my detector is malfunctioning, but I'll bite.

The cap was already 255, you just lost any of the consumables above that, now at least you get something useful, especially for all the capped ammo packs.

[GodlessPaladin]

Influ wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Eagle got buffed 10%...

More, actually. The damage values for it was 42.4-53.1 previously, instead of the ones listed in the balance changes. Still don't know how useful it'll be now, especially being low level.

Weird, the balance changes post says it used to be [60.9-76.1].

WTF?

vivanto wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Bobkyou wrote...
- 255 max cap on ammo, medigel, rockets, shields - they should grant equipment items instead if maxed

Oh my god no.  I'm never going to see someone use a rocket or medigel in multiplayer again.  [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]

Yeah, pretty disappointing changes.

I've a feeling my detector is malfunctioning, but I'll bite.

The
cap was already 255, you just lost any of the consumables above that,
now at least you get something useful, especially for all the capped
ammo packs.

You don't understand.  People SHOULD be punished for reaching the item cap via not helping their team in any fashion whatsoever by being stingy with consumables.  A good team player uses up all or most of their consumables in a match in order to expedite things.  These changes discourage that, and therefore encourage bad behavior.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 16 mai 2012 - 05:06 .

[astheoceansblue]

Yeh, sheet lists it as Influ suggests, so that's a pretty decent increase if correct.

Still needs some love, though.

[Enhanced]

Just when I thought the Indra couldn't get any better.. that happened

[Nightmare Sabin]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Influ wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Eagle got buffed 10%...

More, actually. The damage values for it was 42.4-53.1 previously, instead of the ones listed in the balance changes. Still don't know how useful it'll be now, especially being low level.

Weird, the balance changes post says it used to be [60.9-76.1].

WTF?

Yeah, I'm confused on this too. The google doc had it listed lower. So unless it was wrong. Either way, It needs damage over 90 to even be decent.

[Merkit91]

Nissun wrote...

Merkit91 wrote...

Crusader I now doing more damage then Saber X, lol.

Really?

I think I'm starting to appreciate my Crusader...

Really. Crusader I  486.6 > then Saber X 486.2 lol.

Modifié par Merkit91, 16 mai 2012 - 05:06 .

[BjornDaDwarf]

I'm going to have to revisit the Indra and Crusader now. I liked the action on both of them, just wanted a bit more damage.

[Tazzmission]

Eric Fagnan wrote...

I've posted today's multiplayer balance changes here. The changes are now live.

hi eric i am curretly having some bug issues playing online

are there any plans of correcting them?

[GodlessPaladin]

Eagle is still bad...

Just tested it on a Turian Soldier with every possible weapon bonus and it's still bloody insulting.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 16 mai 2012 - 05:11 .

[vivanto]

GodlessPaladin wrote...
You don't understand.  People SHOULD be punished for reaching the item cap via not helping their team in any fashion whatsoever by being stingy with consumables.  A good team player uses up all or most of their consumables in a match in order to expedite things.  These changes discourage that, and therefore encourage bad behavior.

Right, that makes sense. Anyway, it won't change anything on my playstile, and with jumbo readily available, shouldn't be that worried about it even with random groups.

[-Sxx-]

Wow. Just wow. So you didn't even bother adjusting the frequency of getting character cards we have already?

COME ON. At least reduce how often we get them if we've got appearance options maxed out already >_> That's fair. Anyways, hope the Crusader gets a bit more buffing, the weight is still stupid and isn't really worth using.  

[Indenter]

Eagle still is worse than a predator.

[Influ]

Regardless, the Eagle is still the lowest DPS pistol as well as being the hardest to upgrade. Not to mention it's probably the most inaccurate of the lot.

[GodlessPaladin]

Influ wrote...

Regardless, the Eagle is still the lowest DPS pistol as well as being the hardest to upgrade. Not to mention it's probably the most inaccurate of the lot.

There's no "probably" about it.  It's still an insultingly bad weapon.

Meanwhile, the Hurricane just got better for some reason.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 16 mai 2012 - 05:12 .

[tvih]

 Hahaha. Hurricane buffed despite being insane already, while the Eagle gets 10% and still being entirely useless, pretty much like everyone predicted? Good times! 

Not but seriously, now I really have to ask who the hell decides on these changes, since having a disparity of THREE TIMES the DPS in two automated weapons of the same "rarity" is just plain irresponsible. And this has been going on for well over two months now!

Ah well. I've mostly moved on anyways, so I guess it doesn't matter much for me in the end.

[Barneyk]

wow, I expected a bigger buff for the eagle, looks nice otherwise!

[Bobkyou]

vivanto wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Bobkyou wrote...
- 255 max cap on ammo, medigel, rockets, shields - they should grant equipment items instead if maxed

Oh my god no.  I'm never going to see someone use a rocket or medigel in multiplayer again. 

Yeah, pretty disappointing changes.

I've a feeling my detector is malfunctioning, but I'll bite.

The cap was already 255, you just lost any of the consumables above that, now at least you get something useful, especially for all the capped ammo packs.

Thing is, the 255 cap ment there was no reason to save your medigel/rockets/ammo/ops.  If you saved them, then any rockets that you got out of packs would be wasted, so you might as well use them.  With this change though, by not using your rockets and having 255, you get more equipment.

There were already lots of players who refused to use medigel/rockets when there was no reason to do so.  With this change, they have an excuse as to why they never use them, so more people might start saving them.  Saying I was 'never' going to see people use them again was an exageration of course, but I still predict even fewer people will use them now.

"Well I could use a rocket to kill the 4 banshees barreling towards me, but wow I really want some more armor piercing rounds."

[Kel Riever]

Regarding the XP increases.

I think the strong hint is that you shouldn't be sitting with all your characters at level 20 and not promoting them. And regardless of opinion, it seems signs point to BioWare believing that is part of the fun. I've seen some good counter arguements to this, however, I'm not only going to ride the horse in the direction it is going, but have to say I find more fun in relevelling characters than sitting at 20 myself.

Don't get me wrong....my two favorite classes sit at 20 the most, and that's what my respec tokens are used on. But the rest get levelled, and I do find it more amicable to friends I play with to have diverse character levels. Would be curious to hear what others think of the XP buff.

[Nightmare Sabin]

Eagle does dps lower than the Predator and Phalanx still, despite being N7.

And the number is actually even lower in practice due to the bad recoil.

lmao

I pray I get a Hurricane in this comm pack! PLEASE